Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Pearcey · Post by **Pearcey** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:31 pm

This ice cream man that parks outside my kids school! £2.50 for a small 99!!

Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:39 pm

CnBtruntru wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:11 pm
Because they keep changing the goalposts

Ive not changed since the day i joined…

boyyanno · Post by **boyyanno** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:44 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:10 pm
Given the players that we're reportedly trying to bring in to play further forward and more importantly, the fact that we're going to be doing a LOT more defending next season than last, I'm at a loss to understand why the majority on here seem to be so eager to replace/offload Charlie Taylor and some indeed for us spend top-dollar to buy Ian Maatsen.

Our dominance last season allowed VK to predominantly field aggresive/attacking sides, so quite rightly, Ian Maatsen was the preferred left back. However, I suspect that nobody (OK, there's the regular trolls) would argue that CT is better than Maatsen when we're under pressure - how often did CT come on to close-out games? To my mind, we'll moreoften (every game?) need to be defensively much stronger next season and in Charlie Taylor we already have an experienced,Premiership quality left back.

I like Taylor and I think he's good enough for this league if he's used in a system that suits him. Ours isn't that though imo, and I dont think we will change approach enough for him to be comforfable, he's just quite a limited player. Good, but limited. He probably is better defensively than Maatsen, but his end product and all round game are short of what is required in this system. He probably has some value and it would be nice to put it towards a new LB, wether that be Maatsen, Gomez or whoever. Shame we didn't get that Ryan Manning as he looked a decent option for back up.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:54 pm

boyyanno wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:44 pm
I like Taylor and I think he's good enough for this league if he's used in a system that suits him. Ours isn't that though imo

What exactly is our 'system' for this coming season?

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:00 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:54 pm
What exactly is our 'system' for this coming season?

3-5-1-1 and ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK

durhamclaret · Post by **durhamclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:02 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:00 pm
[quote="Juan Tanamera" post_id=2134124 time=<a href="tel:1689616457">1689616457</a> user_id=424]
What exactly is our 'system' for this coming season?

3-5-1-1 and ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK
[/quote]
Rocky returns!

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:04 pm

we can't play the same way as we did last season, needs a tweak like Silva did at Fulham. We will get picked off in the PL a lot easier imho

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:09 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 4:27 pm
That is some team

Not with Weghorst in it, it isn't.

miele-man · Post by **miele-man** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:27 pm

davideyresleftear wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 5:15 pm
I don’t think he’s some kind of master troll, laying down Machiavellian plots while playing everyone like puppets. All he’s said is, “Hey guys, I’m Swiss. This player you might be buying is good, but give him time.” If that’s trolling or fishing, then it’s lazy. Stayingdown4eva shows more skill.back in my day, trolling used to mean something. It was an art.

Besides, the responses he’s gotten are a lukewarm mixture of “okay, thanks” and “you aren’t Swiss.” He’s hardly started ww3 on here

I’m not sure GOTTEN is actually a word !

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:31 pm

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Goalposts · Post by **Goalposts** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:20 pm

Well watching Amdouni on YouTube, he looks like a zaroury with bells on.. i know one should never read to much into YouTube stuff.. but he has balance , a turn of speed close ball control and can step of either foot… looks very promising and a good buy

Rick_Muller · Post by **Rick_Muller** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:22 pm

miele-man wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 7:27 pm
I’m not sure GOTTEN is actually a word !

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Zom Zom · Post by **Zom Zom** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:29 pm

I'm forever grateful for everything we have achieved in the last decade, for every silver spoon-fed Premier League supporter we've upset with our style of play, and every manager and player that's taken exception to our approach.

But to see how things are done now, especially transfers, where we don't go for the tried and tested, staid players that became the norm, I'm still having to read articles a few times before they sink in.

Claret and blue dreamland.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:50 pm

BBC reporting that Leicester and Burnley are going head to head to sign Palmer on loan from City. Maybe old news

miele-man · Post by **miele-man** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:06 pm

Rick_Muller wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 8:22 pm
IMG_6829.jpeg

Not bothered about that , when I was at school it was never used , Maybe things have changed

Casper2 · Post by **Casper2** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:06 pm

Brighton leading the race apparently

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:13 pm

i take it that we will be able to offload Weghorst now.

Juan Tanamera · Post by **Juan Tanamera** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:14 pm

Casper2 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:06 pm
Brighton leading the race apparently

Which of the 60+ rumoured players are they leading us for?

Vino blanco · Post by **Vino blanco** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:23 pm

“Gotten” was the original past participle of the verb “to get” and was used in early English upto and including writers like Shakespeare, Milton, Dryden etc. When the English settlers moved to America in the early 1600s they would have used the word “gotten” and continue to so until the present day: it is still used as a past participle in words like “forgotten”, “ ill begotten “ etc as well as in dialects in North Eastern England. It was the Brits who started using the abbreviation “got” much later in the late 18th century.
So really “gotten” could be considered the correct usage of the two and it was we English who corrupted the usage much later.

box_of_frogs · Post by **box_of_frogs** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:33 pm

So without trawling all 133 pages, who have we actually signed??

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:35 pm

Vino blanco wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:23 pm
“Gotten” was the original past participle of the verb “to get” and was used in early English upto and including writers like Shakespeare, Milton, Dryden etc. When the English settlers moved to America in the early 1600s they would have used the word “gotten” and continue to so until the present day: it is still used as a past participle in words like “forgotten”, “ ill begotten “ etc as well as in dialects in North Eastern England. It was the Brits who started using the abbreviation “got” much later in the late 18th century.
So really “gotten” could be considered the correct usage of the two and it was we English who corrupted the usage much later.

Interesting. I didn't know the history of it, although I knew 'gotten' was American English.

dermotdermot · Post by **dermotdermot** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:35 pm

Dara O’Shea. I think that’s about it so far.

Claret Toni · Post by **Claret Toni** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:39 pm

All languages move on and English is no exception, and as the home of the language I'd argue that we haven't corrupted our native tongue, merely moved it on; using gotten in the USA is simply a reminder of their colonial past.

I was, of course, greatly amused to see that it's Vino blanco that draws our attention to correct usage

Anyway back to transfer rumours and discussions.

nil_desperandum · Post by **nil_desperandum** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:40 pm

dermotdermot wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:35 pm
Dara O’Shea. I think that’s about it so far.

Bayer is an important signing
and Vigouroux
These are for starters

Marney&Mee · Post by **Marney&Mee** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:42 pm

nil_desperandum wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:40 pm
Bayer is an important signing
and Vigouroux
These are for starters

Wout is like a new signing…

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:51 pm

Vino blanco wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:23 pm
“Gotten” was the original past participle of the verb “to get” and was used in early English upto and including writers like Shakespeare, Milton, Dryden etc. When the English settlers moved to America in the early 1600s they would have used the word “gotten” and continue to so until the present day: it is still used as a past participle in words like “forgotten”, “ ill begotten “ etc as well as in dialects in North Eastern England. It was the Brits who started using the abbreviation “got” much later in the late 18th century.
So really “gotten” could be considered the correct usage of the two and it was we English who corrupted the usage much later.

Certainly used in America

bfcjg · Post by **bfcjg** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 9:54 pm

here we go o Burnley gotten ten in a row

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:03 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 3:19 pm
Why? Ekdal is Swedish not Swiss

Neither is swissguy!

miele-man · Post by **miele-man** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:03 pm

Can I get a coffee ? It’s ok I’ve already gotten one , what would my English teacher have said ?

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:05 pm

Daily Mail reporting the Hamer deal could include McNally OR Thomas - surprised they would be after Thomas tbh
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ymailsport

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:06 pm

fatboy47 wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:33 pm
Don't need to be Columbo to work that out

Maybe not, but he's got 24 likes under the post

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:16 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:05 pm
Daily Mail reporting the Hamer deal could include McNally OR Thomas - surprised they would be after Thomas tbh
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ymailsport

Is Hamer EPL level?

Tricky Trevor · Post by **Tricky Trevor** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:23 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 6:54 pm
What exactly is our 'system' for this coming season?

It doesn’t matter what the system is Charlie is a one trick pony. Push and run down the line, close his eyes and belt it across. I’ve bleated for years about his lack of a right foot and how every team we play know he will never come infield and always overlap. This is so easy for the defenders to take up position against.
I have the utmost respect for him as a PL defender and until better is aboard we should keep him.

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:23 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:05 pm
Daily Mail reporting the Hamer deal could include McNally OR Thomas - surprised they would be after Thomas tbh
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... ymailsport

Cov apparently only currently have one senior Centre Back

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:23 pm

I would hope we’re valuing McNally in the £5m range in any prospective deal. Thomas has done very well in multiple loans now and is still very young. When you consider we got about a million for Josh Benson from Barnsley, I think we’d rightly value Thomas at about £1.5m too.

Hypothetically £5m plus those two would be a fair deal for a 26 year old with a year left, in my opinion. I doubt Coventry fans would see it that way but they’re almost at North Stand Chat circa 2017 levels of delusion.

We could craft a really decent deal for ourselves here. Hamer looked a really good player everytime I watched him last season - I just hope that should we bring him in we’re also looking at a more physically imposing central midfielder in addition to him.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:24 pm

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:16 pm
Is Hamer EPL level?

honestly no idea tbh

randomclaret2 · Post by **randomclaret2** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:24 pm
honestly no idea tbh

Presumably the club think so

Taffy on the wing · Post by **Taffy on the wing** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:26 pm

Quicknick wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:16 pm
Is Hamer EPL level?

Looks good to me......great balance, stocky build & strong.... hard to knock off the ball & does everything with two feet..Explosive speed too!

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:37 pm

Really rate Hamer the only one issue is sometimes he has looked like a walking yellow card and we all know what premier league refs have been like with us in the past

dibraidio · Post by **dibraidio** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:42 pm

swissguy wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:07 pm
Hello everyone. As an FC Basel fan my view on your new striker Zeki Amdouni: Amdouni will join Burnley FC for a fee rumoured to be above 15 million euros according to the most reliable sources around FC Basel. He‘s a player capable of playing as the number 9 or behind the striker. Having only joined Basel last summer on loan (with buy option) from Lausanne he straightaway was their best player in my opinion, even though he didn’t start scoring regularly until the start of this year. His abilty in tight spaces, technical abilities and game intelligence are amazing. He can finish off either foot and scores some headers as well. He‘s fairly quick on the first few metres but lacks some pace afterwards. it will be interesting to see how he can adapt to the physical demands of the PL. Wherever he‘s been it always took him some months to get comfortable and start scoring so give him time before you judge him.

Looking at his highlights on youtube he's certainly got an eye for a pass and a poacher's instinct. Quite a few of those goals might have been saved by a better keeper but he definitely has talent and I could see him fitting into the way we play under VK. Could certainly bring some competition to Weghorst, Twine and Rodriguez.

FCBurnley · Post by **FCBurnley** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:46 pm

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:06 pm
Maybe not, but he's got 24 likes under the post

That is sau gut as they would say in Zurich

summitclaret · Post by **summitclaret** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:02 pm

dibraidio wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:42 pm
Looking at his highlights on youtube he's certainly got an eye for a pass and a poacher's instinct. Quite a few of those goals might have been saved by a better keeper but he definitely has talent and I could see him fitting into the way we play under VK. Could certainly bring some competition to Weghorst, Twine and Rodriguez.

What about Foster and Oberfemi?

Tall Paul · Post by **Tall Paul** » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:12 pm

miele-man wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:03 pm
Can I get a coffee ? It’s ok I’ve already gotten one , what would my English teacher have said ?

They'd probably have said "stop putting spaces before question marks".

dsr · Post by **dsr** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:08 am

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:37 pm
Really rate Hamer the only one issue is sometimes he has looked like a walking yellow card and we all know what premier league refs have been like with us in the past

Lenient? Didn't we go over 3 years without a red card, and year on year had fewer red cards than everyone else?

Quicknick · Post by **Quicknick** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:56 am

Taffy on the wing wrote: ↑
Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:26 pm
Looks good to me......great balance, stocky build & strong.... hard to knock off the ball & does everything with two feet..Explosive speed too!

Didn't realise he was fast. Sounds good.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:33 am

no idea if this is legit or not tbh but I'm a bit dubious

Boxy · Post by **Boxy** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:52 am

We get 2 loan spots so assume we will use them on someone. Amad and redmond instead of tella. Use tella money elsewhere

Middle-agedClaret · Post by **Middle-agedClaret** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:07 am

dsr wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:08 am
Lenient? Didn't we go over 3 years without a red card, and year on year had fewer red cards than everyone else?

Steady now - don’t go confusing people with facts…

123EasyasBFC · Post by **123EasyasBFC** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:32 am

dsr wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 18, 2023 12:08 am
Lenient? Didn't we go over 3 years without a red card, and year on year had fewer red cards than everyone else?

I said a walking yellow card, I never mentioned reds

wilks_bfc · Post by **wilks_bfc** » Tue Jul 18, 2023 7:04 am

Boxy wrote: ↑
Tue Jul 18, 2023 5:52 am
We get 2 loan spots so assume we will use them on someone. Amad and redmond instead of tella. Use tella money elsewhere

Redmond wouldn’t be a loan deal.
He’s a free agent