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Points System.

Post by Claretmutt » Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:03 pm

Just for curiosity how many fans out there
think the points system is fair or those who
don’t.

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Re: Points System.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:05 pm

The only thing I don’t like is allowing season ticket holders to purchase extra tickets before they get to general sale, but this does happen at other clubs.
That aside, I think the rest of the current format is fine

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Re: Points System.

Post by Bullabill » Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:43 pm

I think three points for a win and one for a draw is about right.
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Re: Points System.

Post by Jjjack » Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:44 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:05 pm
The only thing I don’t like is allowing season ticket holders to purchase extra tickets before they get to general sale, but this does happen at other clubs.
That aside, I think the rest of the current format is fine
Do you mean for away games?

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Re: Points System.

Post by Stalbansclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:52 pm

3 points for doing 34mph in a 30 at 1am seems harsh
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Re: Points System.

Post by Quicknick » Mon Aug 21, 2023 3:16 pm

I preferred two points for a win.

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Re: Points System.

Post by Leisure » Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:34 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:05 pm
The only thing I don’t like is allowing season ticket holders to purchase extra tickets before they get to general sale, but this does happen at other clubs.
That aside, I think the rest of the current format is fine
Can they??

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Re: Points System.

Post by Lowbankclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:56 pm

There will be a lot more people eligible to buy the first round of tickets under the new system.
Be interesting to see how they sell for forest away.

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Re: Points System.

Post by GodIsADeeJay81 » Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:14 pm

Leisure wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:34 pm
Can they??
Yes, they were allowed to buy additional tickets prior to them being launched on general sale
I didn’t agree with it and still don’t but it happens elsewhere I believe

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Re: Points System.

Post by Leisure » Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:18 pm

GodIsADeeJay81 wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:14 pm
Yes, they were allowed to buy additional tickets prior to them being launched on general sale
I didn’t agree with it and still don’t but it happens elsewhere I believe

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I presumed he was referring to away tickets, as the thread was about Loyalty Points and you don't need them for home games.

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Re: Points System.

Post by RickyBobby » Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:29 pm

I’d like to see 3 points for a win, 2 for a score draw and 1 for a nil nil.
Controversial I know.

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Re: Points System.

Post by dougcollins » Mon Aug 21, 2023 5:43 pm

Stalbansclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 2:52 pm
3 points for doing 34mph in a 30 at 1am seems harsh
I feel your pain.

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Re: Points System.

Post by Volvoclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:01 pm

It stops trains derailing

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Re: Points System.

Post by bobinho » Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:08 pm

Those who had 5000+ will be crammed, those with about 2000 will be pleased that they are in with a shout….

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Re: Points System.

Post by ALP » Mon Aug 21, 2023 6:20 pm

I always wanted em to go

3 points for a scoring win
2 points for a score draw
1 point for a nil apiece draw

Encourage goals

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Re: Points System.

Post by No Ney Never » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:23 pm

Scrap points, just use goal difference.

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Re: Points System.

Post by IanMcL » Mon Aug 21, 2023 8:37 pm

I have my electric points spread around the whole house. Much better than the candles. No drips.

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Re: Points System.

Post by Terrier » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:43 pm

Not bothered now , I got my golden ticket to watch us win the league at b@$t#rds !
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Re: Points System.

Post by Squazo » Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:50 pm

if you’ve had a season ticket for last 5 years and been to most away games you will have enough points so i really don’t see the issue.

i believe that supporter who follows his team all over the country week in week out should have priority over the season ticket holder from 1962 who goes to the odd lancashire derby if he can be bothered
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Re: Points System.

Post by Robbie_painter » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:07 pm

Terrier wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 9:43 pm
Not bothered now , I got my golden ticket to watch us win the league at b@$t#rds !
Same 😂

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Re: Points System.

Post by Spike » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:11 pm

I don’t think there was enough discussion .
I think it is ill thought out . It may not help but home cup games should be more points to get us more brass
I think because of Covid it should have been 7 years
I’ve still got more than enough points for Forest and bought one today by the way but was shocked for it to be changed after we’d all paid for our season tickets

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Re: Points System.

Post by The Hung Juror » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:28 pm

Its fair to say a bit of sandpaper on the points usually does the trick.

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Re: Points System.

Post by OakworthClaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:34 pm

My 10 year old grandson has nearly as many points as me and my son and I was lucky enough to be at the orient game
He’s a prem league glory hunter
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Re: Points System.

Post by mybloodisclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:18 pm

Spike wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:11 pm
I don’t think there was enough discussion .
I think it is ill thought out . It may not help but home cup games should be more points to get us more brass
I think because of Covid it should have been 7 years
I’ve still got more than enough points for Forest and bought one today by the way but was shocked for it to be changed after we’d all paid for our season tickets
Would you not have got a season ticket had you known the changes Spike?

Putting more people on similar points I think will increase away followings, points are important for the big days. Tickets still on sale (just) for Forest in league, will be sold out tomorrow. Likely would have any way at some points, but limited supply creates higher demand.

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Re: Points System.

Post by Tw@ » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:30 pm

I got 6 points recently by overtaking a police car on the M65

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Re: Points System.

Post by mybloodisclaret » Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:37 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:18 pm
Would you not have got a season ticket had you known the changes Spike?

Putting more people on similar points I think will increase away followings, points are important for the big days. Tickets still on sale (just) for Forest in league, will be sold out tomorrow. Likely would have any way at some points, but limited supply creates higher demand.
I should add that there were times in past few years, where shamefully, I would miss a cup match, mainly due to finances and not living in Burnley. That won't happen now. If I am not working I will be there. I suspect there are others with the same view.

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Re: Points System.

Post by Quickenthetempo » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:06 am

Spike wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:11 pm
I don’t think there was enough discussion .
I think it is ill thought out . It may not help but home cup games should be more points to get us more brass
I think because of Covid it should have been 7 years
I’ve still got more than enough points for Forest and bought one today by the way but was shocked for it to be changed after we’d all paid for our season tickets
The new system is far better to attract fans to attend more games. The 20 points means something now, before just being a long time ST holder was enough.
I would make it roll over 3 seasons instead of 5, but they have given an advantage to older fans.

As for the Covid season, everyone is the same, we all missed out.

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Re: Points System.

Post by Squazo » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:12 am

minimum 18 away games so there’s an extra 360 points to gain. bottom line if you travel week in week out you will achieve enough points

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Re: Points System.

Post by Jjjack » Tue Aug 22, 2023 8:33 am

OakworthClaret wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 10:34 pm
My 10 year old grandson has nearly as many points as me and my son and I was lucky enough to be at the orient game
He’s a prem league glory hunter
I hope you have suitable scolded him.

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Re: Points System.

Post by daveisaclaret » Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:53 am

Under the new system I've gone from being eligible for all away tickets from the get go last season (and applying for the ballot at Rovers) to not being eligible to get Forest away tickets from the get go this season.

I go to one away game a season, so looking through my experience only it looks like the new system is a lot fairer so far than the old one. I just hope that now there is an equitable system for young people they are flexible with the points thresholds so that those at the very top of the points system are given the best access. The whole thing's just going to have the same issues (other than making it fairer for kids) if they stick with the arbitrary 2000 points regardless of allocation size/interest.

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Re: Points System.

Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Aug 22, 2023 12:05 pm

daveisaclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 22, 2023 11:53 am
Under the new system I've gone from being eligible for all away tickets from the get go last season (and applying for the ballot at Rovers) to not being eligible to get Forest away tickets from the get go this season.

I go to one away game a season, so looking through my experience only it looks like the new system is a lot fairer so far than the old one. I just hope that now there is an equitable system for young people they are flexible with the points thresholds so that those at the very top of the points system are given the best access. The whole thing's just going to have the same issues (other than making it fairer for kids) if they stick with the arbitrary 2000 points regardless of allocation size/interest.
Interesting because I've also gone from being eligible from the get go to not being, and I definitely go to more than one away game a season. So I'd say its a lot less fair ;)

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Re: Points System.

Post by dsr » Tue Aug 22, 2023 1:39 pm

Tw@ wrote:
Mon Aug 21, 2023 11:30 pm
I got 6 points recently by overtaking a police car on the M65
3 for speeding, but you played your joker so double it up to 6?

Presumably if it had had its blue light flashing, you might have got the full house of 12.

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Re: Points System.

Post by NottsClaret » Tue Aug 22, 2023 3:05 pm

Same as before for me. Usually got tickets on the 2nd level of loyalty points and still the same now.. it's very rare you can't get tickets if you want them.

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Re: Points System.

Post by Spike » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:39 pm

The Cricket Field stand was virtually empty at the final whistle. The new loyalty points was changed to help this lot wasn’t it?
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Re: Points System.

Post by RickyBobby » Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:56 pm

Spike wrote:
Mon Aug 28, 2023 12:39 pm
The Cricket Field stand was virtually empty at the final whistle. The new loyalty points was changed to help this lot wasn’t it?
Them in the cricket field can’t go one hour without a vape/pint/key never mind 2 hours! They have to get back to the pub toilets as quickly as possible after a game.

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Re: Points System.

Post by dougcollins » Mon Aug 28, 2023 2:14 pm

I've asked the club to send me a calculation of the points I have. Nothing in reply yet.

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Re: Points System.

Post by The Wudster » Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:47 pm

You can calculate your own points from your purchase history. Why would you expect the club to do this for you.?

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Re: Points System.

Post by dougcollins » Mon Aug 28, 2023 9:17 pm

The Wudster wrote:
Mon Aug 28, 2023 4:47 pm
You can calculate your own points from your purchase history. Why would you expect the club to do this for you.?
How about I think they've got it wrong?

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