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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Murger » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:51 pm

Man Utd going for Cucerella all but ends us getting Maatsen.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:52 pm

Think someone should be having a medical at Old Trafford if they have bid of Cucurella, and I don't mean the player
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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:53 pm

No chance they’ll let both go. With any luck the Cucurella deal won’t happen.

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Post by Nori1958 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:59 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:51 pm
Man United have bid for Cucerella

Wonder if that effects the Maatsen deadl
Just about to post the same, plus hall went to Palace, so not as many left backs as there was

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Post by DCWat » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:59 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:24 pm
I don't think Ramsey is a CM from what Boro and Villa fans have said.

Maybe that's the long-term plan with him though?
We have a lot of players that we are pinning hopes on being ready pretty quickly for this level. A good number of those are also adapting to another country.

I just hope we’ve found the right balance here, both in terms of recruiting for specific areas of the pitch and the blend of youth / experience.

As it stands, it feels to me that the squad is a little imbalanced with very limited experience of the Premier League and / or English football.

With all of the changes last season, I don’t think I was expecting quite the same influx, this summer.

It’s such a contrast from what we have ever seen at Burnley, we’ve gone from one extreme under Dyche to another under Kompany, perhaps it just takes a bit of getting used to!

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Post by TopCat » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:07 pm

Surely we do some business with City??
THB, Gomez or Philips??

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:08 pm

No chance of getting Maatsen if Chelsea allow cucurella to leave, unless they have another young lad they rate ahead of Maatsen

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:11 pm

TopCat wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:07 pm
Surely we do some business with City??
THB, Gomez or Philips??
Why THB? We really don’t need him

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Post by aggi » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:14 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:40 pm
Loan signings have to be registered regardless of age
Where is this from? I can't see anything in the rules about U21 loans having to be part of the squad list.

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:15 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:52 pm
Think someone should be having a medical at Old Trafford if they have bid of Cucurella, and I don't mean the player
He's perfect for Man U..........just imagine him with streaked blonde hair, he'll fit right in.

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Post by claretandy » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:19 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:08 pm
No chance of getting Maatsen if Chelsea allow cucurella to leave, unless they have another young lad they rate ahead of Maatsen
They are miles apart on the loan fee, Chelsea want 7m, utd have offered 2m.

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:20 pm

Yeah, you really can’t see Chelsea replacing Cucurella. Very careful with their money normally and tend to bring in minimal players each window.
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Post by Pickles » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:20 pm

Cucurella to Man United is a perfect move. He seems totally suited to making the most obvious hand ball you've ever seen but the ref and VAR waving play on.

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Post by Stan Tastic » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:25 pm

equinox wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:48 pm
...in the Premier League, might I add.
Charlie Taylor has 6 assists in 4 PL seasons, no goals.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by CoolClaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:26 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:02 pm
I think Tresor looks a fantastic talent but really struggling to see the logic here.

In left wing we have:

Redmond
Zaroury
Koleoshi
Odobert

And foster has played there this season.

Surely the massive sum is better spent on getting a top CM in
Ramsey also played off the left for Boro pretty much exclusively but is meant to be more central - but not a centre mid, attacking mid/10 type

Koleosho scored his wondergoal for Espanyol on the right wing cutting in - so that’s a plus
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:27 pm

aggi wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:14 pm
Where is this from? I can't see anything in the rules about U21 loans having to be part of the squad list.
For the 2023/24 campaign, Under-21 players will have been born on or after January 1, 2002.
Despite being aged 21, Ameen Al-Dakhil still fits the Under-21 criteria as he was born on March 6, 2002.

The Clarets don’t currently have any players on loan, but if they do they must be registered to the 25-man squad, even if they’re aged 21 or under.

from the Burnley Express

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:28 pm

claretandy wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:19 pm
They are miles apart on the loan fee, Chelsea want 7m, utd have offered 2m.
I wouldn’t say that’s miles apart on a loan fee

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Post by PremierLeagueClass » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:34 pm

No chance they’ll pay 7 mil, that’s insanity.

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Post by aggi » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:43 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:27 pm
For the 2023/24 campaign, Under-21 players will have been born on or after January 1, 2002.
Despite being aged 21, Ameen Al-Dakhil still fits the Under-21 criteria as he was born on March 6, 2002.

The Clarets don’t currently have any players on loan, but if they do they must be registered to the 25-man squad, even if they’re aged 21 or under.

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Cheers. I wonder where they got that from.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:44 pm

The unknown with Maatsen is what the player wants. If he refuses to sign a new deal he will be off, regardless. A loan with an option to buy at about £20m may be seen as attractive to Chelsea for a player currently paid a minimal sum with 1 year left.

We know he wants to make it at Chelsea, but as reserve LB he may not get many minutes and may see his career stagnating. Easy to see them bringing in another world beater in January.

Saying all that though, their top priority is to get rid of Cucu and they will need a reserve LB just in case.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:50 pm

Football is about players not systems. Last season we had the best players in the division and could play any style VK chose and win.
This season we are a long way from having the best players in nearly every position.
Cullen and Berge as our MF doesn’t stack up well against most other teams, especially those that play a 3 in there.
They need help. 3-5-2 is the way to go.

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Post by Anthonini » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:51 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:02 pm
I think Tresor looks a fantastic talent but really struggling to see the logic here.

In left wing we have:

Redmond
Zaroury
Koleoshi
Odobert

And foster has played there this season.

Surely the massive sum is better spent on getting a top CM in

None of them are ready to start and make an impact. Perhaps Zaroury, and in case of injury or anything you're stuck with Redmond and two 18 year olds that have a low impact on the game.

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Post by summitclaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:52 pm

4231 is the way to go if we get Maatsen or similar and someone to play the Cork role next to Cullen in the 2.

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Post by Anthonini » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:53 pm

Lozano is doing medicals at Eindhoven for PSV. Looks like Bakayoko is going to move?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:56 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:44 pm
The unknown with Maatsen is what the player wants. If he refuses to sign a new deal he will be off, regardless. A loan with an option to buy at about £20m may be seen as attractive to Chelsea for a player currently paid a minimal sum with 1 year left.

We know he wants to make it at Chelsea, but as reserve LB he may not get many minutes and may see his career stagnating. Easy to see them bringing in another world beater in January.

Saying all that though, their top priority is to get rid of Cucu and they will need a reserve LB just in case.
How can Chelsea do a loan with an option to buy when he’s out of contract in the summer? He would need to at least agree another year extension to do a loan with option to buy like Raya at Arsenal

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:13 pm

Anthonini wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:51 pm
None of them are ready to start and make an impact. Perhaps Zaroury, and in case of injury or anything you're stuck with Redmond and two 18 year olds that have a low impact on the game.
Why have we signed them then?

Redmond has 150 premier league apps
Zaroury just signed a new deal.

Odabert cost 10m he better be able to start.

Koleoshi has started the last two

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Post by CnBtruntru » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:13 pm

I read somewhere the other day Chelsea were allowing Cucurella to go out on loan or for sale and Maatsen would not be going on loan unless he signed a new 6 year contract, can't remember where I read it though.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:45 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 3:25 pm
Tresor not in Genk’s travelling Europa Conference League game squad tomorrow.
He won't be, he's flying to Manchester to have a medical for us

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Post by mkmel » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:47 pm

Are you in the know AGENT_CLARET?

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:57 pm

mkmel wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:47 pm
Are you in the know AGENT_CLARET?
More than you :lol: season long loan then a obligation to buy at 21m I've heard
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Post by RVclaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:00 pm

Daka not in the Leicester squad tonight.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:00 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:00 pm
Daka not in the Leicester squad tonight.
They want 25m plus, not a chance we pay that

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Post by ksrclaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:03 pm

All we need now is GetIntoEm to post about it and we’ve got the full set
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Post by gawthorpe_view » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:13 pm

CnBtruntru wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:13 pm
I read somewhere the other day Chelsea were allowing Cucurella to go out on loan or for sale and Maatsen would not be going on loan unless he signed a new 6 year contract, can't remember where I read it though.
It was in the Bayer Update Thread.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:25 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 6:57 pm
More than you :lol: season long loan then a obligation to buy at 21m I've heard
Your heard or read on twitter?

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Post by ClaretInLeeds » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:33 pm

Beyer.
Odobert.
Koleosho.
Al-Dakhil.

That is all.

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:43 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 5:56 pm
How can Chelsea do a loan with an option to buy when he’s out of contract in the summer? He would need to at least agree another year extension to do a loan with option to buy like Raya at Arsenal
Yes that was what I was thinking, didn’t explain it very well. A new contract at the point of departure that would allow a buy back or something, I recall a player recently doing that. Regardless, Chelsea would need something out of it, but I can’t see it happening nonetheless. He will stay or end up at West Ham or Ajax.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:49 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:43 pm
Yes that was what I was thinking, didn’t explain it very well. A new contract at the point of departure that would allow a buy back or something, I recall a player recently doing that. Regardless, Chelsea would need something out of it, but I can’t see it happening nonetheless. He will stay or end up at West Ham or Ajax.
If the reports Maatsen doesn’t want to sign a 6 year deal then FairPlay to him for not letting Chelsea tie him down and then not use him

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Post by KateR » Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:54 pm

Tresor has a mild thigh strain and can’t play, I’m really hopeful he’ll sign but he’s not going to be starting the next few games I’d imagine.

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Post by eastcoastclaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:02 pm

KateR wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:54 pm
Tresor has a mild thigh strain and can’t play, I’m really hopeful he’ll sign but he’s not going to be starting the next few games I’d imagine.
Probably be fine after the international break and will have had time to settle. That's if he signs of course.
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Post by warksclaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:37 pm

Spijed wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 12:49 pm
Charlie Taylor is exactly that but unfortunately doesn't fit into our new system.
Nor in to any other PL club system, and maybe even the Championship

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:38 pm

Even if Cucurella does go to Man Utd, can anyone seriously see Maatsen starting at left back for Chelsea should Chillwell become unavailable?? I know he will technically be next in line but if Cucurella goes it wouldn't surprise me if Chelsea bring in another left back before Friday evening which knocks Maatsen back down the pecking order. There's no way they go into a season with Chillwell and Maatsen as the only options at left back.

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Post by Jakubs Tash » Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:40 pm

KateR wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:54 pm
Tresor has a mild thigh strain and can’t play, I’m really hopeful he’ll sign but he’s not going to be starting the next few games I’d imagine.
Is this a bit like the injury Shackell had just before his switch back to Derby...?

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Post by agreenwood » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:31 pm

What’s the deal with Daka at Leicester? He hasn’t played at all this season.

Injured? Out of favour? Refusing to play?

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Post by AshevilleNCClaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:31 pm

Jakubs Tash wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 8:38 pm
Even if Cucurella does go to Man Utd, can anyone seriously see Maatsen starting at left back for Chelsea should Chillwell become unavailable?? I know he will technically be next in line but if Cucurella goes it wouldn't surprise me if Chelsea bring in another left back before Friday evening which knocks Maatsen back down the pecking order. There's no way they go into a season with Chillwell and Maatsen as the only options at left back.
Agree. I think Chelsea are stringing Maatsen along, which is why he is hesitant to sign a long term deal. I wouldn't if I were him.

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Post by Rick_Muller » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:38 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:31 pm
What’s the deal with Daka at Leicester? He hasn’t played at all this season.

Injured? Out of favour? Refusing to play?
I think I read in an article discussing him going to Bournemouth that Leicester are not playing potential saleable assets…

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Post by warksclaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:44 pm

Also not as good as Hienachio who often now starts, and Vardy is impact sub. Hienachio is a better all round player and would be a great target for us

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Post by CoolClaret » Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:58 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 9:44 pm
Also not as good as Hienachio who often now starts, and Vardy is impact sub. Hienachio is a better all round player and would be a great target for us
He’s from Nigeria not Mexico mate 🤣🤣🤣

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Post by willsclarets » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:22 pm

Tresor makes no sense to me at all. Although the turnover was high last year I understood each signing. This year I'm totally baffled tbh. Obviously got a great deal of faith in Kompany, but to me the squad looks so imbalanced on many levels. Age, experience, profile, positions, strengths/weaknesses etc. I'm even confused as to why tresor, presumably knowing who is at the club, would want to come here

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Post by JimmyRobbo » Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:26 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Tue Aug 29, 2023 10:22 pm
Tresor makes no sense to me at all. Although the turnover was high last year I understood each signing. This year I'm totally baffled tbh. Obviously got a great deal of faith in Kompany, but to me the squad looks so imbalanced on many levels. Age, experience, profile, positions, strengths/weaknesses etc. I'm even confused as to why tresor, presumably knowing who is at the club, would want to come here
I agree. It certainly seems that way.

Having said that, I remember being concerned that we seemed to lack height and strength in the side but it didn't cause us any great concerns once we were up and running.

As you said, faith in VK.

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