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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:07 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:05 pm
Egan-Riley off to PSV.
loan or sale ?

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Post by agreenwood » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:07 pm

Murger wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:06 pm
Thought he was injured?
Just going off some Dutch media reports.

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Post by Gazclaret83 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:07 pm

Firthy wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:56 pm
I think if we get Tresor then my only disappointment will be not getting Maatsen or another LB.
100%

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:07 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:05 pm
Egan-Riley off to PSV.
Are you looking at rumours from January?

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Post by Casper2 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:08 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:43 pm
According to the Telegraph journalist interviewed on the BBC earlier we offered £34m+ but he wanted to stay in London
Euros wasn’t it ?

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:10 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:43 pm
VK has only a few hours to save our season!...



Drama queenery of the very highest order.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:10 pm

Firthy wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:56 pm
I think if we get Tresor then my only disappointment will be not getting Maatsen or another LB.
Belgian player of the year. It's going to be an amazing signing of we manage to do it

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Post by forzagranata » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:11 pm

Gazclaret83 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:57 pm
If he wanted tella kompany would have got him. Don't think kompany thought he was up to the prem for whatever reason. Maatsen different story. Possibly are best 2 players last season
The club's transfer man, Matt Williams, was quoted as saying in hospitality last week, that we wanted Tella but couldn't get it done/wouldn't pay the asking price.

No surprise, VK isn't daft and knew that Tella would have done a great job.

But its history now.

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Post by jojomk1 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:11 pm

What's Les Thompson up to these days if we don't sign a LB
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Post by Uwe Noble » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:11 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:06 pm
Not sure if you went to Forest Wednesday, but I did and it was a sad reminder that Charlie, despite his loyalty to us , is just not in tune in what is required as a LB in this team.Very ponderous, lacking in ideas going forward, but must admit he can defend when we are under the cosh. If Maatsen does not join he may end up playing for us by elimination
Exactly.

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Post by agreenwood » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:11 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:07 pm
Are you looking at rumours from January?

https://voetbalflitsen.nl/nieuws/p1kxy5 ... ij-burnley

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Claret Alfie » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:12 pm

Lokonga has joined Luton. We must have pulled out of that one, surely. He’d been linked to bigger clubs than us too.

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Post by Gazclaret83 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:14 pm

Claret Alfie wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:12 pm
Lokonga has joined Luton. We must have pulled out of that one, surely. He’d been linked to bigger clubs than us too.
We pulled out due to his fitness an previous injuries

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:18 pm

Claret Alfie wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:12 pm
Lokonga has joined Luton. We must have pulled out of that one, surely. He’d been linked to bigger clubs than us too.
Lokonga was at palace on loan it could be the case that he just wants to remain down south (London area) maybe family or other ties although bedfordshire isn't exactly that but it's a damn sight closer than lancashire.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:19 pm

The guy who said we would only let Dodgson go if we sign Maatsen has changed his tune now

Burnley have prioritised ensuring Owen Dodgson gets Barnsley opportunity before waiting for Ian Maatsen green light

First team minutes unlikely even if Maatsen doesn’t sign

Highly rated by Vincent Kompany and seen part of future plans

See they where putting 2 and 2 together
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Post by burnleymik » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:19 pm

https://twitter.com/JamesSavundra/statu ... 9401110562
Burnley have prioritised ensuring Owen Dodgson gets Barnsley opportunity before waiting for Ian Maatsen green light

First team minutes unlikely even if Maatsen doesn’t sign

Highly rated by Vincent Kompany and seen part of future plans

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by jurek » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:20 pm

There's been a lot of froth around re. potential incoming
but most, if not all of it has evaporated over the last few hours.
Pity really because some of names mentioned have got many of us
a tad too excited, myself included.

It looks as if we'll have to do with what we've managed to get in
but not many, if any of those we were keen on in particular
those who were with us last season - in particular Tella and Maatsen.

VK will put a brave face on it but he must be disappointed.

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Post by Claret Alfie » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:20 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:18 pm
Lokonga was at palace on loan it could be the case that he just wants to remain down south (London area) maybe family or other ties although bedfordshire isn't exactly that but it's a damn sight closer than lancashire.
Could well be. I think I’m guilty like others that every Belgian player automatically would like to play for Kompany :lol:

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Post by Gazclaret83 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:20 pm

Maybe the case. But kompany was chasing him for a while. Think I heard we pulled the plug on the deal rather than the player

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Wembley09 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:22 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:18 pm
Lokonga was at palace on loan it could be the case that he just wants to remain down south (London area) maybe family or other ties although bedfordshire isn't exactly that but it's a damn sight closer than lancashire.
Didn't it break down over personal terms, I remember reading something about that?
Anyway, I wonder how much of his wages Luton are covering.. I think he's on around £53k a week at Arsenal.

Although reading this, it seems Arsenal were desperate to get him out of the club.
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Post by gandhisflipflop » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:24 pm

Maybe it’s gone quiet because our signings are doing media duties ready to be unveiled tonight. Grasping I know but you never know!

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Post by Nori1958 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:26 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:24 pm
Maybe it’s gone quiet because our signings are doing media duties ready to be unveiled tonight. Grasping I know but you never know!
Definitely grasping :lol:
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Post by forzagranata » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:28 pm

Long way to go yet, long, long way to go.

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Post by LaLigaClaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:29 pm

Lokonga went to Luton as he had nowhere else to go after rejecting our offer earlier in the summer. It was Luton or his career was in the bin so just last minute desperation on his part. Pretty humilating for him and for us. Rejecting us over Luton, hope he turns out to be gash.
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:30 pm

Wembley09 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:22 pm
Didn't it break down over personal terms, I remember reading something about that?
Anyway, I wonder how much of his wages Luton are covering.. I think he's on around £53k a week at Arsenal.

Although reading this, it seems Arsenal were desperate to get him out of the club.
I'm not sure I think holding is on his way out as well it would appear arsenal are looking to offload, when/if lokonga ever plays for a northern club I'll maintain that theory until, I'm merely speculating on his possible desire to remain down south without being sure.
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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:31 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:29 pm
Lokonga went to Luton as he had nowhere else to go after rejecting our offer earlier in the summer. It was Luton or his career was in the bin so just last minute desperation on his part. Pretty humilating for him and for us. Rejecting us over Luton, hope he turns out to be gash.
Weren't we trying to get him on loan?
We got Ramsey instead,so no big deal here.

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Post by ksrclaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:32 pm

I just hope VK actually plays Taylor at LB now because as much as he doesn’t suit our style, he’s our best and only LB.

I don’t want to see Roberts, Al-Dakhil or Vitinho shunted out there trying their best to do a job when Taylor is available for selection.
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Post by Gazclaret83 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:32 pm

Fair enough. I stand corrected. Thought we didn't want him in the end. But if he's turned us down hoping for a better offer haha

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Post by quoonbeatz » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:33 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:29 pm
Lokonga went to Luton as he had nowhere else to go after rejecting our offer earlier in the summer. It was Luton or his career was in the bin so just last minute desperation on his part. Pretty humilating for him and for us. Rejecting us over Luton, hope he turns out to be gash.
Cryarse levels picking up I see.
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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:34 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:29 pm
Lokonga went to Luton as he had nowhere else to go after rejecting our offer earlier in the summer. It was Luton or his career was in the bin so just last minute desperation on his part. Pretty humilating for him and for us. Rejecting us over Luton, hope he turns out to be gash.
I'd love you to explain how it's humiliating in any way shape or form for us

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Post by bfcjg » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:37 pm

If Maatsen is unsure about joining us I hope it is the strings being put in place by Chelsea or personal reasons and not an arrogant I'm to good for Burnley attitude . If it is the latter then I don't really want him.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:37 pm

Any left back free agents out there to go with cannon as a free agent right back?

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Post by Newty » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:37 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:49 pm
Do we have a stronger defence than last season?... Is the current defence stronger than the one under SD?
How can you even compare to SD's defence when it's two polar opposite systems? Imagine Pope, Taylor, Mee, Tarky and Lowton trying to play in VK's possession based, 'play it out from the back' system, rather than a low block. It would be utterly shambolic.

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Post by willsclarets » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:38 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:37 pm
Any left back free agents out there to go with cannon as a free agent right back?
No, I've been sad enough to check that

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Post by Gazclaret83 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:39 pm

Newty wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:37 pm
How can you even compare to SD's defence when it's two polar opposite systems? Imagine Pope, Taylor, Mee, Tarky and Lowton trying to play in VK's possession based, 'play it out from the back' system, rather than a low block. It would be utterly shambolic.
I'd take it tomorrow please

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Post by agreenwood » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:40 pm

Egan-Riley looks like a loan to PSV

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Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:40 pm

Probably better turning off the Ipad and watching Luton for 2 hours. I have a feeling things will look different by then. At least, they had better :lol:

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Post by Taffy on the wing » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:41 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:18 pm
Lokonga was at palace on loan it could be the case that he just wants to remain down south (London area) maybe family or other ties although bedfordshire isn't exactly that but it's a damn sight closer than lancashire.
I've heard that if the conditions are right, you can get there in 30 minutes! :mrgreen:

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:42 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:37 pm
If Maatsen is unsure about joining us I hope it is the strings being put in place by Chelsea or personal reasons and not an arrogant I'm to good for Burnley attitude . If it is the latter then I don't really want him.
the guy literally went around and fed 5 families in Burnley on Christmas day last year. The last thing he is is too big for his boots or arrogant. If he thinks he can make it at Chelsea he would be mental to join Burnley, can't fault or criticize the lad for backing himself. The only criticism here would be pointed at us if we don't have a plan B
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Post by buzzclarets79 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:43 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 6:43 pm
VK has only a few hours to save our season!...

We currently have the weakest defence that we have ever had in the Premiership and it's even weaker than last season!...

Truly bizarre, especially with the budget VK has been given...

There is absolutely no chance we stay up with this current set of defenders.
Wow. Just absolutely wow.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:43 pm

agreenwood wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:40 pm
Egan-Riley looks like a loan to PSV
amazing move for him !

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Post by Gazclaret83 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:44 pm

Agree. Wow

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Post by LaLigaClaret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:45 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:34 pm
I'd love you to explain how it's humiliating in any way shape or form for us
I read gushing reports of how much he admired VK and how much he wanted to play for us. Staff at Arsenal were convinced it was a done deal because he said he wanted to come here. Reports of his desire to come here came out before there was any talk of us being interested in him. The fact that he eventually chose Luton and rejected us having strung us out for weeks in the summer is humiliating. I mean Luton who finished miles behind us last season. At no point did I read or hear that we were pulling out of the deal. Many posters on here kept asking what was happening with his supposed signing and there was never any explanation as to why there was any delay. Comments were being made ton here that we should walk away because of his reluctance to sign. I don't know why we seemed to be waiting for him to sign for so long without withdrawing our offer. The hanging on for weeks seems to be a very similar situation for Maatsen, that is keep hanging on in the desperate hope it will happen but without any alternatives being a realistic oprtion. By the way aren't we still short a good passing, defensive CM. and looking likely not to get one ?

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Post by Steddyman » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:46 pm

It has gone far too quiet on Tresor. Got an uneasy feeling about it

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Post by boatshed bill » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:48 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:45 pm
I read gushing reports of how much he admired VK and how much he wanted to play for us. Staff at Arsenal were convinced it was a done deal because he said he wanted to come here. Reports of his desire to come here came out before there was any talk of us being interested in him. The fact that he eventually chose Luton and rejected us having strung us out for weeks in the summer is humiliating. I mean Luton who finished miles behind us last season. At no point did I read or hear that we were pulling out of the deal. Many posters on here kept asking what was happening with his supposed signing and there was never any explanation as to why there was any delay. Comments were being made ton here that we should walk away because of his reluctance to sign. I don't know why we seemed to be waiting for him to sign for so long without withdrawing our offer. The hanging on for weeks seems to be a very similar situation for Maatsen, that is keep hanging on in the desperate hope it will happen but without any alternatives being a realistic oprtion. By the way aren't we still short a good passing, defensive CM. and looking likely not to get one ?
Not humiliating at all.

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Post by ecc » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:49 pm

buzzclarets79 wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:43 pm
Wow. Just absolutely wow.
Is that with or without the injured lads?

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by RicardoMontalban » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:49 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:45 pm
I read gushing reports of how much he admired VK and how much he wanted to play for us. Staff at Arsenal were convinced it was a done deal because he said he wanted to come here. Reports of his desire to come here came out before there was any talk of us being interested in him. The fact that he eventually chose Luton and rejected us having strung us out for weeks in the summer is humiliating. I mean Luton who finished miles behind us last season. At no point did I read or hear that we were pulling out of the deal. Many posters on here kept asking what was happening with his supposed signing and there was never any explanation as to why there was any delay. Comments were being made ton here that we should walk away because of his reluctance to sign. I don't know why we seemed to be waiting for him to sign for so long without withdrawing our offer. The hanging on for weeks seems to be a very similar situation for Maatsen, that is keep hanging on in the desperate hope it will happen but without any alternatives being a realistic oprtion. By the way aren't we still short a good passing, defensive CM. and looking likely not to get one ?
Humiliating? Get a grip.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Gazclaret83 » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:49 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:45 pm
I read gushing reports of how much he admired VK and how much he wanted to play for us. Staff at Arsenal were convinced it was a done deal because he said he wanted to come here. Reports of his desire to come here came out before there was any talk of us being interested in him. The fact that he eventually chose Luton and rejected us having strung us out for weeks in the summer is humiliating. I mean Luton who finished miles behind us last season. At no point did I read or hear that we were pulling out of the deal. Many posters on here kept asking what was happening with his supposed signing and there was never any explanation as to why there was any delay. Comments were being made ton here that we should walk away because of his reluctance to sign. I don't know why we seemed to be waiting for him to sign for so long without withdrawing our offer. The hanging on for weeks seems to be a very similar situation for Maatsen, that is keep hanging on in the desperate hope it will happen but without any alternatives being a realistic oprtion. By the way aren't we still short a good passing, defensive CM. and looking likely not to get one ?
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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Vegas Claret » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:50 pm

LaLigaClaret wrote:
Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:45 pm
I read gushing reports of how much he admired VK and how much he wanted to play for us. Staff at Arsenal were convinced it was a done deal because he said he wanted to come here. Reports of his desire to come here came out before there was any talk of us being interested in him. The fact that he eventually chose Luton and rejected us having strung us out for weeks in the summer is humiliating. I mean Luton who finished miles behind us last season. At no point did I read or hear that we were pulling out of the deal. Many posters on here kept asking what was happening with his supposed signing and there was never any explanation as to why there was any delay. Comments were being made ton here that we should walk away because of his reluctance to sign. I don't know why we seemed to be waiting for him to sign for so long without withdrawing our offer. The hanging on for weeks seems to be a very similar situation for Maatsen, that is keep hanging on in the desperate hope it will happen but without any alternatives being a realistic oprtion. By the way aren't we still short a good passing, defensive CM. and looking likely not to get one ?
so you read gushing reports of how much he admired VK and how much he wanted to play for us but at no point did you read or hear that we were pulling out of the deal.

I'm genuinely giving my head a wobble at that reasoning.

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Re: Summer transfer window 2023 - rumours, links and discussion.

Post by Spiral » Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:51 pm

If the Maatsen deal is loan with a buy obligation then it could be a case of Maatsen not being keen on signing for god knows how much, knowing that in the event of relegation next summer, having just spent god knows how much on him in June we'd probably be unlikely to let him move to a prem club that same window. This was my theory with the Coulibaly deal. Player doesn't want to be tied to the potential of Championship football, something that is more likely if the fee is paid next summer. There's less flexibility, little room for manoeuvre for the player. I think it makes a difference if the fee is paid now, because after a (hopefully decent) season in the prem, if we're relegated we'd probably be more willing to sell than if we'd just paid whatever fee a few weeks prior to any potential sale.
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