2023/24: Salford City v Burnley – Cup Ticket Information

[Burnley1989]

In which case the new system has been extremely successful in achieving one of it's primary goals - which was to not alienate the current crop of away fans who would regularly go to away games. What you fail to see (I think, but correct me if I'm wrong) is that now younger fans can also have a chance over the coming seasons to accumulate a realistic level of points which will also enable them to travel to away games with family and friends.

The old systems certainly was a much more closed shop than the new system, but you'll need to recheck in a few years to really evaluate the success or not after it has rolled over a few times.

Same wavelength as me, seems those that moan barely go to away games anyway, they’re just upset they can’t go to the 3-4 they want

[Rick_Muller]

Same wavelength as me, seems those that moan barely go to away games anyway, they’re just upset they can’t go to the 3-4 they want

I don't go to many, but when I want to go I know I'm likely to get a ticket with my "nearly 2000" points. I want one for Luton this season as I missed out last season (ended up in the home end, but not the same as being with our fans) but if I don't get one I'll know most of the tickets went to fans with more points than me - which I'm fine with.

[Big Vinny K]

In which case the new system has been extremely successful in achieving one of it's primary goals - which was to not alienate the current crop of away fans who would regularly go to away games. What you fail to see (I think, but correct me if I'm wrong) is that now younger fans can also have a chance over the coming seasons to accumulate a realistic level of points which will also enable them to travel to away games with family and friends.

The old systems certainly was a much more closed shop than the new system, but you'll need to recheck in a few years to really evaluate the success or not after it has rolled over a few times.

Yes I knew that re younger fans.
But why not give them the opportunity now to get away tickets and give everyone else the same opportunity too ?

The £250 membership is just crazy. It’s effectively saying we want to reward our definition of loyal fans but if you are prepared to pay you can join this cohort even if you have never attended a burnley game in your life. How can you call that a loyalty scheme ?

[quoonbeatz]

In which case the new system has been extremely successful in achieving one of it's primary goals - which was to not alienate the current crop of away fans who would regularly go to away games. What you fail to see (I think, but correct me if I'm wrong) is that now younger fans can also have a chance over the coming seasons to accumulate a realistic level of points which will also enable them to travel to away games with family and friends.

The old systems certainly was a much more closed shop than the new system, but you'll need to recheck in a few years to really evaluate the success or not after it has rolled over a few times.

Very naive to think this latest iteration doesn't also foster a closed shop given they've just abitrarily changed the points levels for this game.

[Rick_Muller]

Yes I knew that re younger fans.
But why not give them the opportunity now to get away tickets and give everyone else the same opportunity too ?

The £250 membership is just crazy. It’s effectively saying we want to reward our definition of loyal fans but if you are prepared to pay you can join this cohort even if you have never attended a burnley game in your life. How can you call that a loyalty scheme ?

to me the membership caters for those who would have previously paid over the odds on the "black market" for tickets but at least now the club gets the profits of that. Lets not forget that only the extreme scenarios will this ever be an issue, and much less of an issue now with the new scheme IMO.

[Rick_Muller]

Very naive to think this latest iteration doesn't also foster a closed shop given they've just abitrarily changed the points levels for this game.

nothing arbitrary about having a higher limit for specific games where demand will be higher. The club will have the stats to back up where the upper limit is I can guarantee that.

[Leisure]

Yes. Giving more people the same chance is much fairer to more people than giving a select few a better chance. I'm not bothered about missing out on ticket to another burnley fan as long as I have the same chance as everyone else to buy one. They've committed to this season, just as I have.

You're a martyr!

[The Hung Juror]

And so it goes on, what a surprise.

We have a brand new system, I believe along i suspect with most other people, which is fairer. But we still have people complaining. We will never have a system which is perfect or suits everyone. Just accept it and stop bleeting

[quoonbeatz]

nothing arbitrary about having a higher limit for specific games where demand will be higher. The club will have the stats to back up where the upper limit is I can guarantee that.

A higher limit that the same people every time will have priority access to, thus keeping them at the top.

It would perhaps be a bit fairer to start changing the levels later in the season, given it's the start of a new system but its a bit crap doing it so early on. I know someone who bought a forest ticket even though they can't go, so they'd have 2k points for Salford and they've upped the limit. And they've lowered the next tier which is bizarre. Whole thing is a mismanaged shambles and there are much fairer ways to do things.

[quoonbeatz]

You're a martyr!

I wouldn't say that. I'm just a sound guy who isn't selfish.

[Big Vinny K]

to me the membership caters for those who would have previously paid over the odds on the "black market" for tickets but at least now the club gets the profits of that. Lets not forget that only the extreme scenarios will this ever be an issue, and much less of an issue now with the new scheme IMO.

Extreme scenarios ?
Not sure what you mean.
Every membership scheme purchased potentially takes an away ticket from another supporter who has been far more loyal than the person who can afford to stump up £250

[Paul Waine]

67 people who potentially might never have ever seen us play away or even at home in their lives.
Starting to think the club view us normal fans who don’t spend hundreds of pounds every game as a nuisance.

Hi Ricky, Premium Members can buy 2 tickets for away games. But, it costs £250 to be a Premium Member. Of course, Premium Members still have to pay for any tickets they want for home games as well as away games.

[Rick_Muller]

Extreme scenarios ?
Not sure what you mean.

I mean away games with extreme limited availability - like Luton. These games are the only games where there is a chance that a few (very small number IMO) fans may feel aggrieved at "membership" fans getting tickets.

[daveisaclaret]

I think the new scheme is good. Makes sense to me that the people putting in the hard yards get first dibs on tickets for the (very, very few) games where demand outstrips supply. If every season was like last season there would be reasonable fears of it being a closed shop but most seasons will see away tickets for the majority of games really easy to get.

The £250 scheme is a real shocker but as the games for most aways seem to be getting to general sale the people who've paid it have just thrown some money away for next to nothing.

[Big Vinny K]

I mean away games with extreme limited availability - like Luton. These games are the only games where there is a chance that a few (very small number IMO) fans may feel aggrieved at "membership" fans getting tickets.

Salford is another.
There’ll be a lot more games with a limited availability this season than last year so it was not the best season for them bring this in - and then adding in the membership scheme just makes it even less fair.

[Nori1958]

I mean away games with extreme limited availability - like Luton. These games are the only games where there is a chance that a few (very small number IMO) fans may feel aggrieved at "membership" fans getting tickets.

Those were the type of games people were moaning about not being able to get tickets for, moan enough and the system gets changed, but with less tickets available after the members have had their go

[Vince Fontaine]

I suspect the club and the people who pushed for the system to be changed are pleased. I do think that the club could have rewarded REAL LOYALTY by changing it slightly..
We had about 1750 supporters who attended the Nottingham Forest match in the same competition, so why not change it to,
Season ticket holders with 2000 points and over who attended the Nottingham Forest match
Season ticket holders with 1000 points and over who attended the Nottingham Forest match
Season ticket holders who attended the Nottingham Forest match
Anyone who attended the Nottingham Forest match
Season ticket holders with over 1000 points
Season ticket holders
General sale

Now that would reward the loyal supporters who made the effort to go to Nottingham.
This system of attendance at certain matches could be adapted to future league matches where tickets are limited or there is going to be a perceived high demand..

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[Rick_Muller]

You can please some of the people some of the time,
all of the people some of the time,
some of the people all of the time,
but you can never please all of the people all of the time

[Leisure]

Salford is another.
There’ll be a lot more games with a limited availability this season than last year so it was not the best season for them bring this in - and then adding in the membership scheme just makes it even less fair.

Not really. For the vast majority of the games our allocation will be either 3k or very close to it. The 3 with limited tickets will be Luton Brentford and Bournemouth.

[ClaretTony]

I suspect the club and the people who pushed for the system to be changed are pleased. I do think that the club could have rewarded REAL LOYALTY by changing it slightly..
We had about 1750 supporters who attended the Nottingham Forest match in the same competition, so why not change it to,
Season ticket holders with 2000 points and over who attended the Nottingham Forest match
Season ticket holders with 1000 points and over who attended the Nottingham Forest match
Season ticket holders who attended the Nottingham Forest match
Anyone who attended the Nottingham Forest match
Season ticket holders with over 1000 points
Season ticket holders
General sale

Now that would reward the loyal supporters who made the effort to go to Nottingham.
This system of attendance at certain matches could be adapted to future league matches where tickets are limited or there is going to be a perceived high demand..

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That's too obvious. We had the opportunity to do that last season but opted not to.

[Paul Waine]

Not really. For the vast majority of the games our allocation will be either 3k or very close to it. The 3 with limited tickets will be Luton Brentford and Bournemouth.

And those 3 away games are in October.

[Nori1958]

That's too obvious. We had the opportunity to do that last season but opted not to.

I've lost track of who we played last season in the cups ( other than city) which cup game would have benefited from allowing those who attended a previous round game, first dibs in the next round?

[ClaretTony]

I've lost track of who we played last season in the cups ( other than city) which cup game would have benefited from allowing those who attended a previous round game, first dibs in the next round?

We travelled to Bournemouth & Ipswich but we could have done something for league games at the likes of Luton.

[Nori1958]

We travelled to Bournemouth & Ipswich but we could have done something for league games at the likes of Luton.

It's a bit more difficult for league games, whereas the poster was talking about one specific cup game, which would reward those who attended the previous round, not sure which game we could have picked last season to allow access to Luton tickets for example

[Burnley1989]

It's a bit more difficult for league games, whereas the poster was talking about one specific cup game, which would reward those who attended the previous round, not sure which game we could have picked last season to allow access to Luton tickets for example

How many away games and cup games did you go to last year Nori, you drive me mad, you just love arguing

[ClaretTony]

It's a bit more difficult for league games, whereas the poster was talking about one specific cup game, which would reward those who attended the previous round, not sure which game we could have picked last season to allow access to Luton tickets for example

We’d had a small following at Swansea for one but a lot of clubs use away match attendances as part of a loyalty scheme.

[Nori1958]

How many away games and cup games did you go to last year Nori, you drive me mad, you just love arguing

Who's arguing?
It's a discussion, sorry if it offends you, just block me, it's that easy

[Nori1958]

We’d had a small following at Swansea for one but a lot of clubs use away match attendances as part of a loyalty scheme.

I think it's a good idea, but not something to be brought in mid season, it should be done at the start so everyone knows where they stand
Like I said earlier, remove the word loyalty and call it an away travel club

[Burnley1989]

Done

[Vince Fontaine]

It's a bit more difficult for league games, whereas the poster was talking about one specific cup game, which would reward those who attended the previous round, not sure which game we could have picked last season to allow access to Luton tickets for example

We could have said any one who attended say Birmingham away, with the points levels at the time 6000 then 3000 then who attended then those who didn’t attend.
We took about 1200/1300 to Birmingham on a Tuesday night I think

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[Leisure]

, remove the word loyalty and call it an away travel club

Don't be so sensitive ffs!

[Leisure]

We’d had a small following at Swansea for one but a lot of clubs use away match attendances as part of a loyalty scheme.

Tony - It was quality not quantity!

[Nori1958]

We could have said any one who attended say Birmingham away, with the points levels at the time 6000 then 3000 then who attended then those who didn’t attend.
We took about 1200/1300 to Birmingham on a Tuesday night I think

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I don't disagree, but needed to be in place at the start of the season

[Vince Fontaine]

I don't disagree, but needed to be in place at the start of the season

You mean like when they told us at the start of the season that the Blackburn match would be a ballot. There is no reason they couldn’t bring it in, tickets for both Nottingham and Newcastle both went to general sale. You could just announce the match when announcing the ticket details. The more you attend the more chance you have, even if you don’t have a season ticket , try o get them for the glamour matches.

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[Nori1958]

Don't be so sensitive ffs!

I've been called many things, but sensitive has never been one of them.....otherwise I'd be annoyed at you swearing

[Leisure]

I've been called many things, but sensitive has never been one of them.....otherwise I'd be annoyed at you swearing

Well you ceryi seem to have an issue/problem with the word 'liyalty'!

[Nori1958]

Well you ceryi seem to have an issue/problem with the word 'liyalty'!

In my mind someone is saying that after about 10 pints.....have a great evening

[Squazo]

And so it goes on, what a surprise.

We have a brand new system, I believe along i suspect with most other people, which is fairer. But we still have people complaining. We will never have a system which is perfect or suits everyone. Just accept it and stop bleeting

this system is the best! go to most away games over last five years you deserve priority to go away games!

[ClaretInLeeds]

this system is the best! go to most away games over last five years you deserve priority to go away games!

You should also have your season ticket immediately rescinded if you sold on your tickets for Rovers away last season.

[jrgbfc]

Seeing as Newcastle on a Saturday afternoon has made it to general sale I don't see there being too many issues getting away tickets this season.

[paulatky]

Less pts requirement for first tranch than for Newcastle yet demand will be far more.
Not played there before will be like Barnet years ago

[Leisure]

Less pts requirement for first tranch than for Newcastle yet demand will be far more.
Not played there before will be like Barnet years ago

Newcastle was 2000, Salford is 2100.

[Squazo]

You should also have your season ticket immediately rescinded if you sold on your tickets for Rovers away last season.

i got oined to death to sell it my mates daughter as she was upset she didn have a ticket. Brad was more than happy to pay it. see you at Forest

[ClaretTony]

You should also have your season ticket immediately rescinded if you sold on your tickets for Rovers away last season.

Sadly it must have happened. There's a bloke lives round the corner from me who went with his mate. Neither of them go on the Turf.

[Squazo]

i got oined to death to sell it my mates daughter as she was upset she didn have a ticket. Brad was more than happy to pay it. see you at Forest i only sold it for what i paid on the black market having been unsuccessful in the ballot

[IanMcL]

Newcastle was 2000, Salford is 2100.

Maths not a strong point with the poster?

[IanMcL]

The premium places are sold out.

[Leisure]

The premium places are sold out.

Have they actually been on sale??

[ClaretTony]

Have they actually been on sale??

I don't think they have

[Leisure]

I don't think they have

I was informed by the TO on Saturday lunchtime that they would be available in the afternoon but haven't seen that that has actually happened.