Andros Townsend.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:14 pm

Could be a naive error by us. Not just getting us experience and proven quality, but stops a rival too. He also said he was happy being a squad player so really he opened the door wide for us.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by ClaretsPadiham » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:14 pm

Can see it now Andros Townsend waiting at the gates of Cherry Fold whilst the mums of the Stoops estate share roll ups still dressed in Pyjamas.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by warksclaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:15 pm

Seems a decent guy, but we just did not need another wide man competing with Odobert, Koleosho, Larsen, Zarouury, Benson, Redmond, JBG

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Claretnick » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:27 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:15 pm
Seems a decent guy, but we just did not need another wide man competing with Odobert, Koleosho, Larsen, Zarouury, Benson, Redmond, JBG
Hmm seeing that 3 on the list are out injured and another seemingly out of favour maybe VK made a mistake reneging on the deal.
Hope it doesn't bite us on the arse now he has signed with a relegation rival..
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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Claretmisterg » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:32 pm

Good luck to the lad (except against us). Would have preferred to have seen him at the turf following his performances in pre-season but can’t blame him now for taking whatever deal he can get.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:41 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:39 am
There must be a reason why not 1 club anywhere in the world hasn't signed him.
No reason sometimes things just take time it was always the waiting game.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:52 pm

Claretnick wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:27 pm
Hmm seeing that 3 on the list are out injured and another seemingly out of favour maybe VK made a mistake reneging on the deal.


If only we had a crystal ball, eh?

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Claretnick » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:57 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:52 pm
If only we had a crystal ball, eh?
Yeah if only...

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by 4midable » Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:18 pm

Hes no better than what we have
Redmond level
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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:04 pm

Footballing wise yes but Townsend wouldn't have been saddled with a 2 year if the worst was to happen probably about a year.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by JR1882 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:14 pm

We have 4 wingers who can’t get a start so it’s irrelevant to us.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by BobSykes » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:22 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:14 pm
Could be a naive error by us. Not just getting us experience and proven quality, but stops a rival too. He also said he was happy being a squad player so really he opened the door wide for us.
And thus another ingredient in this horse sh1t sandwich of a season has perhaps been added to the mix....

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:26 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:14 pm
We have 4 wingers who can’t get a start so it’s irrelevant to us.
Depends which way you look at that IF he has any sort of meaningful impact at Luton to our detriment it could end up being relevant, granted it's a big IF but with football strange things can & are known to happen.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:33 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:26 pm
Depends which way you look at that IF he has any sort of meaningful impact at Luton to our detriment it could end up being relevant, granted it's a big IF but with football strange things can & are known to happen.
I have to say i'm not too concerned about what, if any, affect Townsend may have on our season

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:54 pm

BobSykes wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:22 pm
And thus another ingredient in this horse sh1t sandwich of a season has perhaps been added to the mix....
I actually think we are doing OK, despite the potential mistake highlighted in my post you quoted.

So far it is just young defenders not coping with the top 8 elite. Whether they can cope with the other 11 clubs will determine our season. I suspect they will do it OK.
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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Carwin261 » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:37 pm

Can’t believe people are talking about Townsend ,let’s bring Lennon and Stephen’s back it’s obviously a big mistake playing promising 19 yrs olds we could have JBG ,Cork ,Lennon,Stephens ,Jay Rod and Townsend we’d have at least 15 points by now.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:13 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:33 pm
I have to say i'm not too concerned about what, if any, affect Townsend may have on our season
I'm not myself hence a big IF but it's not impossible that he could have to some sort of degree & that being the slim possibility if would make things far from irrelevant, it's an unusual scenario with us passing up on a opportunity & him going to another relegation candidate.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:14 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:10 pm
Nailed on top bins screamer at Turf Moor
He'll be crocked by then.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:20 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:13 pm
I'm not myself hence a big IF but it's not impossible that he could have to some sort of degree & that being the slim possibility if would make things far from irrelevant, it's an unusual scenario with us passing up on a opportunity & him going to another relegation candidate.
So, by that logic we should:
A Identify our main relegation candidates.
B. Check on who they might sign (free agents in particular)
C. Gazump those relegation candidates and sign their targets ahead of them.

I may be senile, but I'm not that daft :D

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Wokingclaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:28 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:20 pm
So, by that logic we should:
A Identify our main relegation candidates.
B. Check on who they might sign (free agents in particular)
C. Gazump those relegation candidates and sign their targets ahead of them.

I may be senile, but I'm not that daft :D
Haven't they done that to us :roll:

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:31 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:20 pm
So, by that logic we should:
A Identify our main relegation candidates.
B. Check on who they might sign (free agents in particular)
C. Gazump those relegation candidates and sign their targets ahead of them.

I may be senile, but I'm not that daft :D
It's happened & the chances are it won't come back to bite us on the arse that's top & bottom.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by JimmyRobbo » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:50 pm

Concentrate on our own growth.

Finished.

Good luck, elsewhere..
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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by boatshed bill » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:12 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:31 pm
It's happened & the chances are it won't come back to bite us on the arse that's top & bottom.
TBF it's the least of our worries.
All that needs to happen is that VK gets our chaps on the right track and we'll be well safe by Easter ;)

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Cheshireclaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:58 pm

Classic example of 'player envy'. Nobody really cared that we didn't sign him, given the number of players we have in his position, and yes he had a great pre-season for us and yes, he (apparently) told his daughter she was going to school in Burnley.

But my word, at no point this season have I thought 'bloody hell, if only Andros Townsend could come on and turn this game' and by the same token I don't think I'd have given two shiny shites had he come on for any of the opposition.

As an example, Adebayo caused me concern last season. And this. Rightly so. He's just signed for someone on 11th October. Good luck to him.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Wed Oct 11, 2023 11:58 pm

Cheshireclaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:58 pm
Classic example of 'player envy'. Nobody really cared that we didn't sign him, given the number of players we have in his position, and yes he had a great pre-season for us and yes, he (apparently) told his daughter she was going to school in Burnley.

But my word, at no point this season have I thought 'bloody hell, if only Andros Townsend could come on and turn this game' and by the same token I don't think I'd have given two shiny shites had he come on for any of the opposition.

As an example, Adebayo caused me concern last season. And this. Rightly so. He's just signed for someone on 11th October. Good luck to him.
Not sure anyone on here has said we should definitely have signed him, for my part I pondered if it will prove to be a mistake.

But…..despite all our wingers most of them play on the left and are right footed. We have struggled on the right side and players like Koleosho look like a fish out of water there and Tresor does a bit too.

We only have JBG and Manuel as left footed wingers and they are often crocked. Brun Larson is right footed but the way he hit that winner at Luton, ok, his left is very good too but I suspect isn’t fit for 90 yet as we are cautious about his long term injuries. But Townsend is known as a two footed player who can track back and could have solved that problem on the right.

So there is logic there, that’s all I am saying. But I can also see the logic not doing it too.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Clive 1960 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 3:52 am

Good luck to the lad hope it works out for him , just a shame how things didn't work out for him here after the offer of a contract, but that is life.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:59 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:41 pm
No reason sometimes things just take time it was always the waiting game.
:D :D

So that's what any club had an interest in him were doing. They have signed him for about 10 weeks up to now and they have no game for almost the first 2 weeks.

No wonder you seem to struggle as much as you do

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Nori1958 » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:13 am

Cheshireclaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 10:58 pm
Classic example of 'player envy'. Nobody really cared that we didn't sign him, given the number of players we have in his position, and yes he had a great pre-season for us and yes, he (apparently) told his daughter she was going to school in Burnley.

But my word, at no point this season have I thought 'bloody hell, if only Andros Townsend could come on and turn this game' and by the same token I don't think I'd have given two shiny shites had he come on for any of the opposition.

As an example, Adebayo caused me concern last season. And this. Rightly so. He's just signed for someone on 11th October. Good luck to him.
Why would he have told his daughter she was going to school in Burnley?
He wouldn't have had to move house had he signed

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by Jakubclaret » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:46 am

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:59 am
:D :D

So that's what any club had an interest in him were doing. They have signed him for about 10 weeks up to now and they have no game for almost the first 2 weeks.

No wonder you seem to struggle as much as you do
He’s found himself a club that’s top & bottom, he’s actually done better than I thought he’d do staying in the top flight, it was a question of when, he’s ideal for Luton a low risk short term signing who can offer experience.

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Re: Andros Townsend.

Post by warksclaret » Thu Oct 12, 2023 9:36 am

Claretnick wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:27 pm
Hmm seeing that 3 on the list are out injured and another seemingly out of favour maybe VK made a mistake reneging on the deal.
Hope it doesn't bite us on the arse now he has signed with a relegation rival..
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See your point, but it still leaves us four fit widemen for two positions, and as we saw at Luton we played just one wide man (plus Foster/ Amdouni). Our bigger problems are full backs-just two who can play in this league: central strikers just Foster;central midfield just four including Cork for three positions. Now we understand Al Dakhill, Beyer and Ekdal all injured. So for me letting Townsend go is not a big issue

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