Cards on the Table…

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Re: Cards on the Table…

Post by taio » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:42 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:38 pm
I don’t buy all this completely undermining previous achievements because we’ve moved on.

A team is stronger than their parts - Brighton are playing Jason Steele and Lewis Dunk - did you have them down for playing for a team that would qualify for Europe in 6 years time?

We beat Conte’s Chelsea away, results against the best United have been since Fergie left.

City centurion season - no one is undermining that achievement

It was a damned good achievement and as good as it gets for Burnley in the top flight whilst the money is as mad as it is st the top.
Agree - I can't understand why any supporter would want to downplay the achievement. It's bizarre.

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Re: Cards on the Table…

Post by CoolClaret » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:50 pm

taio wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:42 pm
Agree - I can't understand why any supporter would want to downplay the achievement. It's bizarre.
People just make nonsense up to confirm their bias.

Properly bizarre

Presumably if this was a thread talking about the season prior when we finished 16th or the season we finished 10th the PL would have magically been stronger.

The fact is we had an extremely United squad, with the vast majority of it filled with experienced pros in their prime, with great camaraderie and alignment throughout the club.

Incredible achievement to never be underestimated or undermined.

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Re: Cards on the Table…

Post by Anthonini » Thu Oct 12, 2023 8:13 am

It's going to be like this for two weeks huh?

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Re: Cards on the Table…

Post by jrgbfc » Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:09 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:50 pm
People just make nonsense up to confirm their bias.

Properly bizarre

Presumably if this was a thread talking about the season prior when we finished 16th or the season we finished 10th the PL would have magically been stronger.

The fact is we had an extremely United squad, with the vast majority of it filled with experienced pros in their prime, with great camaraderie and alignment throughout the club.

Incredible achievement to never be underestimated or undermined.
Don't think anybody is saying it wasn't a great achievement. Just that we took advantage of a few teams who had much better squads than us all underperforming.
Same as Leicester when they won the league, some of the City and Liverpool teams of recent years would have destroyed that Leicester side.

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Re: Cards on the Table…

Post by CoolClaret » Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:44 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Thu Oct 12, 2023 2:09 pm
Don't think anybody is saying it wasn't a great achievement. Just that we took advantage of a few teams who had much better squads than us all underperforming.
Same as Leicester when they won the league, some of the City and Liverpool teams of recent years would have destroyed that Leicester side.
But they wouldn't would they?

For that season they were the best, everything clicked. It's just easy to project that they'd 'be destroyed'.
Leicester team had Kante, Mahrez and Vardy, two of which went on to win even more silverware and be top players in their respective positions.

Vardy was an absolute menace - 24 league goals, can't be just shrugged aside.

City team had KDB / Aguero / Kompany / David Silva all at good ages that are widely regard as four of the best to ever do it in the PL in their respective positions and they

No one argues that teams like Conte's Chelsea winning side or the latter Fergie United sides would 'get destroyed by teams now' but just because it's 'lesser' teams like Leicester and Burnley then that's the sort of lazy response.
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