Bournemouth next week

claretonthecoast1882 · Post by **claretonthecoast1882** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:38 am

Trafford & Muric
Vitinho Al Dakhil O Shea Delcroix Taylor Zaroury
Brownhill Massengo

Foster

Trafford can do the shot stopping then pass it to Muric who can put Foster clean through

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:42 am

RVclaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:37 am
Think that offers the best balance from what’s available?

That midfield 3 had been looking more structured. Allow Amdouni to drift central.

You could be right.

I’m almost thinking a totally radical change. Introducing cork into the mix with Brownhill.

My main concern with that team is the back four, Vitinho with Al Dakhil on the right looks like a massive issue area. Especially if Amdouni is supposed to be doing the tracking back.

ClaretAL · Post by **ClaretAL** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:51 am

Slightly different take but agreed it is hard to find the midfield. Is Benson Injured? 4 2 3 1

———————---Muric
Vitinho——AAD——Delcroix——Taylor
————Brownhill-----------Cork
Benson/Koleosho—-------Amdouni——Zaroury
————————-Foster

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:58 am

-------------Muric
Vitinho--Ekdal--AAD--Taylor
---------Brownhill--------
-----Cork-----Berge------
Redmond------------Koleosho
-------------Foster

Conroy92 · Post by **Conroy92** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:01 am

Need some protection for the defence, Brownhill the only ratter we have. If were not playing football like last season Cullen is null and void in this league. Get some experience back in the side with Cork and Redmond. Muric back in for obvious reasons. Ekdal needs to be back.

Carwin261 · Post by **Carwin261** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:16 am

Conroy92 wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:58 am
-------------Muric
Vitinho--Ekdal--AAD--Taylor
---------Brownhill--------
-----Cork-----Berge------
Redmond------------Koleosho
-------------Foster

Not a chance that Ekdal will be fit and Vitinho limped off an Saturday.

warksclaret · Post by **warksclaret** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:17 am

I think VK put O Shea RB when Roberts got sent off, knowing CR would not be available Saturday. For me O Shea over Vitinho any day as a full back. Much better defendert

northernpowerhouse · Post by **northernpowerhouse** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:21 am

Muric
Vitinho O'Shea Al-Dakhil Taylor
Brownhill Cork Cullen
Redmond Foster Zaroury

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:40 am

Ekdal is 5th in the pecking order so unlikely to play even if fit
Unfortunately

Terry Cochrane · Post by **Terry Cochrane** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:05 am

Bournemouth are absolutely dire. We will beat them. Quietly confident. The season turns at the weekend.

TommyPicks · Post by **TommyPicks** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 10:08 am

Looks like they’ve just sacked their manager…

Sleeping Cat · Post by **Sleeping Cat** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:02 am

From the first match against City, making so many changes to the side, I feel we lost momentum & cohesion last seasons team could've carried into this season. Agree with posters on here, time for pragmatism and experience at this level or a similar level. Cork needs to be on the pitch.

Nonayforever · Post by **Nonayforever** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:24 am

Muric
Vitinho Al Dakhil OShea Taylor
Cork Cullen Brownhill
Redmond Berge
Foster

It's going to be all about ball retention & building confidence .
A one nil will do and we have plenty of options from the bench to liven it up if behind.

Vegas Claret · Post by **Vegas Claret** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:35 am

sounds like they could be about to pot their manager

IanMcL · Post by **IanMcL** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:44 am

Muric
Vitinho--Al Dakhil--OShea--Taylor
--------Cullen--------
---Brownhill Cork...-Berge------
Redmond---
-------------Foster

Got to get some early stability and know how. Later the rapid wingers. Pick any of them. Benson/Zaroury/Koleosho preferred. Rodriguez too later.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:52 am

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:40 am
Ekdal is 5th in the pecking order so unlikely to play even if fit
Unfortunately

5TH ?? He's probably the best defender at the club

thomo27 · Post by **thomo27** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:58 am

123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 21, 2023 7:47 pm
Trafford (no point saying muric it’s not happening

Vitinho
O’Shea
Delcroix
Taylor
(Beyer and Ekdal still injured and al-dakhil needs taking out)

Cullen
Cork
Berge

Larsen
Foster
Zaroury

Agree totally with the front 3, Larsen definitely deserves a start for me, and I'd like to see Zaroury in. Redmond/JBG for experience could also be an option.
Definitely want Cork and Cullen in the holding/deep lying playmaker positions, and either Brownhill/Berge in the more attacking midfield position, again based on experience.
Goalkeeper for me is an easy one, Muric must be in to take Trafford out of the firing line and give him a rest. Undoubtedly a good shot stopper, but not your keeper if you want to play it on the floor.
Muric may fail, but he needs a chance either way.
The back four is the most difficult selection for me due mainly to injuries, in a fully fit and available back four I would go for Taylor and O'Shea as full backs, Ekdal and Beyer as centre halves. due to injuries it would have to be Delcroix and Al-Dakhil.

We need to be more solid defensively and direct on the counter attack. the young lads coming off the bench a la Benson last season can also have a big impact in the closing stages.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:20 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:52 am
5TH ?? He's probably the best defender at the club

Totally agree - but it’s a long time since he was picked

ervi34 · Post by **ervi34** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:37 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:52 am
5TH ?? He's probably the best defender at the club

He is and it's really bizzare why Kompany thought O'Shea and Delcroix should play ahead of him in the first few games while everyone was available.

CrosspoolClarets · Post by **CrosspoolClarets** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:40 pm

Doesn’t need many changes. Just needs the shape vs Forest away after we brought Berge on and were sensational.

That day he came on for JBG so I would play him narrow on the right, Brownhill and Cullen in the middle. Amdouni can stay behind Foster. Left wing is debatable, I would go for Tresor in his favoured position, or Zaroury, but Tresor is a bit more direct, I sense he has more to offer and needs games.

Defence would be Vitinho for Roberts, O’Shea if Vit is unfit. Delcroix at LCB with Beyer unfit.

I would pick Muric but he won’t.

The vital thing to remember is we don’t need to win - they have to come to us and this is away. Sheff Utd last season showed the difference between home and away, we can’t start moaning if we go down away again. Only the top 3 have won more than twice away so far, its hard.

gandhisflipflop · Post by **gandhisflipflop** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:46 pm

IanMcL wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 23, 2023 11:44 am
Muric
Vitinho--Al Dakhil--OShea--Taylor
--------Cullen--------
---Brownhill Cork...-Berge------
Redmond---
-------------Foster

Got to get some early stability and know how. Later the rapid wingers. Pick any of them. Benson/Zaroury/Koleosho preferred. Rodriguez too later.

In that set up he needs to get Taylor hugging that touch line but he hasn’t done that all season and it’s been exasperating the problem. I sound like a broken record but the full backs are what is killing us

jedi_master · Post by **jedi_master** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 1:49 pm

——————————Trafford
O’Shea——Al-Dakhil—-Delcroix——-Taylor
——————-Cork——————Cullen
Berge——————-Brownhill—————Zaroury
———————————Foster

Needs a total rethink - if we try again with a three man ‘midfield’ that includes Amdouni then we will get taken apart, again. Berge to play as a narrow right sided midfielder who can drift into the middle. Cork to start and Massengo to be on the bench to replace him when he inevitably tires/is looking like he might get his second booking. O’Shea is a disaster currently at centre back, he played alright in one of the friendlies at right back and at least it gives us more height overall across the back line.

Hedontplayforyou · Post by **Hedontplayforyou** » Mon Oct 23, 2023 2:25 pm

I’m convinced that the manager wanted to set up as the conventional in one image and then move the full back inside leaving three actual centre backs in there .

Al-Dakhil operated from right full back in pre-season with O’Shea in the centre which was the opposite way round to what I thought he would do given that O’Shea had been used at right back during his time at WBA.

When we didn’t managed to lure Maatsen here I think the plans have gone out the window as Taylor simply isn’t the same animal in there .

I also still feel that the signing of Delcroix was indeed for the same purpose in order to use him at left full back and let him shuffle across to make a 3 when Roberts inverted.

We currently don’t look like we have much identity and we are trying to use Berge in a position that he is not comfortable in. Berge should be the advanced of a midfield 3 and rotated with Ramsey in the same role when he becomes tired .

There’s an awful lot of ifs and buts , the keeper scenarios being one of them. Sides have already sudsed out that if they press us high we inevitably fail in our efforts. It needs a tweak to combat the high press otherwise we will continue to get a battering of our own making . Go more direct at times , it’s not as if we don’t have the pace to go in behind. ,
Foster , Koleosho, Amdouni, Odobert, Zaroury and Larsen none of whom are any slouch . Larsen makes intelligent runs and I think deserves a chance to start at the weekend .

Let’s hope for some positivity Saturday.

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Tue Oct 24, 2023 1:32 am

Muric
O'shea, Al-Dakhil, Delcroix, Taylor
Cullen, Cork
Redmond, Berge, Zaroury
Foster

Koleosho for Zaroury if tiring/65 mins
Amdouni for Berge at 65
Bruun Larsen for Redmond at 65
Brownhill for Cork at 65

Gets us experience on the pitch along with players who know the system. Then we can freshen up in the second half if needed. The defence picks itself unfortunately. Berge in the role in which we have won all our points so far.
I'm going to this so I'm hoping for a reaction. Well....more like praying for one.

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:39 am

The team I'd go with with the player's available

------------------------Muric

Vitinho----O’Shea----Delcroix----Taylor

--------------Cullen ----------Cork

Redmond------Brownhill-------Zaroury

-----------------------Foster

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:06 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Sun Oct 22, 2023 7:58 pm
Less than 10......up front

Up to 19 with add ons

Either way we haven't "spent" 19 million as suggested

It's been repeatedly reported as £14-15m initial fee. Probably not all paid upfront but that's pretty irrelevant.

Newcastleclaret93 · Post by **Newcastleclaret93** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:12 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:39 am
The team I'd go with with the player's available

------------------------Muric

Vitinho----O’Shea----Delcroix----Taylor

--------------Cullen ----------Cork

Redmond------Brownhill-------Zaroury

-----------------------Foster

Terrifying line up

ksrclaret · Post by **ksrclaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:18 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:12 pm
Terrifying line up

Can you think of a team we could put out on Saturday that wouldn’t be?

Somethingfishy · Post by **Somethingfishy** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:28 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:12 pm
Terrifying line up

Based on the defence I presume? Unfortunately it's any 4 from 5/6 at the moment and all look iffy. Apart from that I'd go with the forward choices.

I'd have Berge for Brownhill as he's shown when in AM that he can make a difference..as at Luton and Forest.

BleedingClaret · Post by **BleedingClaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:56 pm

------------------ MURIC -------------

Vitinho----O’Shea----AAD----Taylor

-------Brownhill ---- Cullen ---------

Larsen -------- Berge ----- Koleosho

----------------- Foster ---------------

CoolClaret · Post by **CoolClaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:27 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:39 am
The team I'd go with with the player's available

------------------------Muric

Vitinho----O’Shea----Delcroix----Taylor

--------------Cullen ----------Cork

Redmond------Brownhill-------Zaroury

-----------------------Foster

I’m leaning this way as well, perhaps Larsen to start over Redmond but happy with that.

It’s as good as we’re gonna have unless Ekdal and Beyer make a miraculous recovery.

Quickenthetempo · Post by **Quickenthetempo** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:33 pm

If Cullen can't impose himself on this game then I can't see a future for him at this level.

claretandy · Post by **claretandy** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:02 pm

Looks like beyer is back on the grass....

Nori1958 · Post by **Nori1958** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:14 pm

aggi wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:06 pm
It's been repeatedly reported as £14-15m initial fee. Probably not all paid upfront but that's pretty irrelevant.

There were plenty of reports from reliable reporters at the time of the transfer that the figure was around 6/7 mill....then all the add ons to take it to 19 if all goals are met. Other posters have obviously seen the same reports as that's the figure quoted by several of them.

None of us will know the exact amount, but what I can say is that we haven't " spent " ...19 mill, which is what many are using to back up their arguments

AGENT_CLARET · Post by **AGENT_CLARET** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:23 pm

Nori you can say all you want about the price, is it 19m is it 12m is it 7m, one thing I can tell you is he looks over priced at 5m

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:25 pm

ClaretAL wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 23, 2023 8:51 am
Slightly different take but agreed it is hard to find the midfield. Is Benson Injured? 4 2 3 1

———————---Muric
Vitinho——AAD——Delcroix——Taylor
————Brownhill-----------Cork
Benson/Koleosho—-------Amdouni——Zaroury
————————-Foster

Yes, he is injured

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:35 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Mon Oct 23, 2023 9:40 am
Ekdal is 5th in the pecking order so unlikely to play even if fit
Unfortunately

Joint second and injured so far this season. He’s never been not injured in all his time with us, hopefully this absence will see him come back 100% for first time.

SalisburyClaret · Post by **SalisburyClaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:01 pm

Holtyclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:35 pm
Joint second and injured so far this season. He’s never been not injured in all his time with us, hopefully this absence will see him come back 100% for first time.

Makes you wonder why O’Shea, Delcroix, Al Dakhil have all been picked ahead of him this season. We desperately need him but not sure he’ll even get picked

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:24 pm

claretandy wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:02 pm
Looks like beyer is back on the grass....

Another two months in Dyche terminology wonder if VK thinks he’s got the munchies.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:25 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:01 pm
Makes you wonder why O’Shea, Delcroix, Al Dakhil have all been picked ahead of him this season. We desperately need him but not sure he’ll even get picked

Kompany seems to have a massive blind spot where Ekdal is concerned , very strange if so. Every time he has played I’ve thought he was a quality player and a lot of others share that view.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:23 pm

SalisburyClaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:01 pm
Makes you wonder why O’Shea, Delcroix, Al Dakhil have all been picked ahead of him this season. We desperately need him but not sure he’ll even get picked

As I just said he hasn’t been fit yet this season, why would he be picked??

It’s become obvious though that O’Shea, aad and Delcroix really need Beyer (or ekdal probably) alongside them.

Uncanny how injuries tend to whallop your weak spot.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:27 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 6:25 pm
Kompany seems to have a massive blind spot where Ekdal is concerned , very strange if so. Every time he has played I’ve thought he was a quality player and a lot of others share that view.

Has a massive blind spot? he’s played when he’s been fit. He just hasn’t been fit very often unfortunately, including the whole of the season to date.

Strange comment.

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:33 pm

Edit. 59 minutes in league cup, think he went off injured.

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:41 pm

Holtyclaret wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:33 pm
Edit. 59 minutes in league cup, think he went off injured.

THB was in front of him all last season .

He’s been very unlucky as whenever he’s played he’s usually scored and looked the part ( especially this pure season against Benfica).

AAD seems to be preferred to him also this season.

He’s only played in the cup this season like he’s a second string player. Both he and Muric should be in the first team not the cup team. VK has that arse backwards.

aggi · Post by **aggi** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:13 pm

Nori1958 wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 5:14 pm
There were plenty of reports from reliable reporters at the time of the transfer that the figure was around 6/7 mill....then all the add ons to take it to 19 if all goals are met. Other posters have obviously seen the same reports as that's the figure quoted by several of them.

None of us will know the exact amount, but what I can say is that we haven't " spent " ...19 mill, which is what many are using to back up their arguments

Agreed that we haven't spent £19m but I suspect £6/7m is probably a bit low, maybe the first installment.

Sources that were generally viewed to be reliable like The Athletic and Fabrizio Romano were saying £14m

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/stat ... 9521327105

Superjohnnyfrancis · Post by **Superjohnnyfrancis** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:20 pm

aggi wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:13 pm
Agreed that we haven't spent £19m but I suspect £6/7m is probably a bit low, maybe the first installment.

Sources that were generally viewed to be reliable like The Athletic and Fabrizio Romano were saying £14m

https://twitter.com/fabrizioromano/stat ... 9521327105

I’d be shopping for a new belt if my pants kept falling down.

boatshed bill · Post by **boatshed bill** » Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:53 pm

Shame we can't play the team that beat them last season

Holtyclaret · Post by **Holtyclaret** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:45 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote: ↑
Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:41 pm
THB was in front of him all last season .

He’s been very unlucky as whenever he’s played he’s usually scored and looked the part ( especially this pure season against Benfica).

AAD seems to be preferred to him also this season.

He’s only played in the cup this season like he’s a second string player. Both he and Muric should be in the first team not the cup team. VK has that arse backwards.

The cup game was the only game he was fit to start and he got injured and still is. Ekdal took thb’s spot following thb’s injury despite having just arrived at the club with an injury.

Far from forgotten and far from overlooked just unlucky with injury.

dougcollins · Post by **dougcollins** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 7:30 pm

Holtyclaret wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 26, 2023 5:45 pm
The cup game was the only game he was fit to start and he got injured and still is. Ekdal took thb’s spot following thb’s injury despite having just arrived at the club with an injury.

Far from forgotten and far from overlooked just unlucky with injury.

Yep, that's how see it. Ekdal is a great player.

mybloodisclaret · Post by **mybloodisclaret** » Thu Oct 26, 2023 9:48 pm

Ekdal 5th choice

That is a good one.