Christmas signings?

[StayingDown4Ever]

I really hope you are joking. We absolutely need to address the glaring gaps in the summer recruitment which is having a major impact on the style of play we want to implement (mainly a continuation on last season) this includes a pacy striker, and a very good left wing back at a minimum,

Would you really trust Vincent with more funding in January after what he got us in the summer?

[gandhisflipflop]

Would you really trust Vincent with more funding in January after what he got us in the summer?
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The transfer window wasn’t bad, you have not given them time. And are you going to ignore the previous summer?


How naive are you? VK will have had a long list of targets in each of the key positions in the summer, we evidently didn’t strengthen in key areas so yes it needs to be addressed.


I bet you was one of these who criticised Alan paces recruitment in the first Jan window when he literally just took over.


Give the man a chance FFS.

[NewClaret]

Would you really trust Vincent with more funding in January after what he got us in the summer?

YES.

That’s exactly why I’d trust him. Koleosho, Amdouni, Berge, JBL all look real players to me. Plus Massengo who I feel could be a great addition. Odobert has hugely impressed me when he’s played too.

Tresor has been hit and miss but then so was Lyle and now most are saying how much we’re missing him/he’s our best player.

Ramsey has had good and bad games but also a clear talent.

The issue is not who Kompany signed, just that the club did not recruit evenly for whatever reason (which might t have been Kompany’s fault).

The quality that Kompany has

[Nonayforever]

YES.

That’s exactly why I’d trust him. Koleosho, Amdouni, Berge, JBL all look real players to me. Plus Massengo who I feel could be a great addition. Odobert has hugely impressed me when he’s played too.

Tresor has been hit and miss but then so was Lyle and now most are saying how much we’re missing him/he’s our best player.

Ramsey has had good and bad games but also a clear talent.

The issue is not who Kompany signed, just that the club did not recruit evenly for whatever reason (which might t have been Kompany’s fault).

Agree with this, however, we as fans don't know what the plan is between Pace & VK.
If the strategy is to sign expirence which fill the gaps and make us a stronger outfit to stay in the PL, then yes. But that will come at a cost.
If the plan is to by cheap overseas future talent, then no.

[NewClaret]

Agree with this, however, we as fans don't know what the plan is between Pace & VK.
If the strategy is to sign expirence which fill the gaps and make us a stronger outfit to stay in the PL, then yes. But that will come at a cost.
If the plan is to by cheap overseas future talent, then no.

I have no idea how these things work but I would hope they agreed a plan, but maybe were unable to execute it in the way we wanted. We know from Matt Williams’ interview that we lost out on players.

Experience will be loans, I think.

I’d be up for us trying continuing to sign any of the best young talent though, just in the positions we need. No more wingers.

[FCBurnley]

How about Stephan Anta on loan from Trelleborgs

[Clive 1960]

We will only get a striker on loan i would have thought with the situation that we are facing.

[Claretnick]

Noah Allen, apparently a left back with Inter Miami, is spending 2 weeks in England training with us and the Potters
https://twitter.com/PaulTenorio/status/ ... 1344045095

[ArmchairDetective]

There will be players coming in and going out.

Must feel pretty dull to be of the opinion that there is no point in trying to improve on what we have.

[Anthonini]

I'm hoping for Joshua Zirkzee who's just breaking through at Bologna after a disappointing first season. If you wait 6 months he's too expensive. Maybe you could get him for 13-15m. Would solve a bunch of our offensive problems. He wouldn't take long to adjust to our way of playing.

Here's a video of him.

https://youtu.be/kLfi5tHbS6E?si=7rnopucJnOWG7Rwf

[TheFamilyCat]

How about Stephan Anta on loan from Trelleborgs

Aren't Trelleborgs players all postmen and plumbers?

[CharlieinNewMexico]

I'm hoping for Joshua Zirkzee who's just breaking through at Bologna after a disappointing first season. If you wait 6 months he's too expensive. Maybe you could get him for 13-15m. Would solve a bunch of our offensive problems. He wouldn't take long to adjust to our way of playing.

Here's a video of him.

https://youtu.be/kLfi5tHbS6E?si=7rnopucJnOWG7Rwf

Didn’t he almost put out a “come and get me” type comment in order to work with Kompany again? And we didn’t

[Nori1958]

I really hope you are joking. We absolutely need to address the glaring gaps in the summer recruitment which is having a major impact on the style of play we want to implement (mainly a continuation on last season) this includes a pacy striker, and a very good left wing back at a minimum,

What quality of player do you think would come if we are still bottom....

[Anthonini]

Didn’t he almost put out a “come and get me” type comment in order to work with Kompany again? And we didn’t

I don't remember but could be. He loves working under VK. He did have a pretty lousy season with only 2 goals and 2 assists. Perhaps that's why they didn't go for him?

Now he's on 5 goals and 2 assists in 13 games. But he's a very good player. Broke through at Bayern Munich when he was 18 years old but then he struggled for a while until VK brought him to Anderlecht on loan where he did very well with 16 goals and 9 assists.

[CharlieinNewMexico]

What quality of player do you think would come if we are still bottom....

This.

We are going to be limited to 3 genres
1) players not getting a game at their clubs on loan
2) Vinny’s Old Boys club
3) players from leagues not in season on loan

[CharlieinNewMexico]

I was really impressed with that Mbamba that came on for Leverkusen the other night. Only 18!

[Nori1958]

This.

We are going to be limited to 3 genres
1) players not getting a game at their clubs on loan
2) Vinny’s Old Boys club
3) players from leagues not in season on loan

Not the quality we'd require then?

[CharlieinNewMexico]

Not the quality we'd require then?

It wouldn’t surprise me if he pulled a couple of rabbits out of the hat as far as old team mates etc so I wouldn’t necessarily say that

[Nori1958]

It wouldn’t surprise me if he pulled a couple of rabbits out of the hat as far as old team mates etc so I wouldn’t necessarily say that

I hope you're right

[gandhisflipflop]

What quality of player do you think would come if we are still bottom....

Every player wants to play in the PL, the notion that they don’t because of our position is a myth.

[bumba]

I was really impressed with that Mbamba that came on for Leverkusen the other night. Only 18!

You do realise your not allowed to watch any football that isn't a Burnley match on this forum!?!?

[bumba]

YES.

That’s exactly why I’d trust him. Koleosho, Amdouni, Berge, JBL all look real players to me. Plus Massengo who I feel could be a great addition. Odobert has hugely impressed me when he’s played too.

Tresor has been hit and miss but then so was Lyle and now most are saying how much we’re missing him/he’s our best player.

Ramsey has had good and bad games but also a clear talent.

The issue is not who Kompany signed, just that the club did not recruit evenly for whatever reason (which might t have been Kompany’s fault).

The quality that Kompany has

When has Odobert hugely impressed?
Not saying he hasn't got potential but he hasn't done much in the games he's played hence why he hasn't played much since

[Nori1958]

Every player wants to play in the PL, the notion that they don’t because of our position is a myth.

That's why we've been able to attract all the big names over the years is it?

[Jakubclaret]

That's why we've been able to attract all the big names over the years is it?

He's right the PL is an attractive destination but I suspect (in some cases) the terms we have offered haven't been as attractive as the destination itself.

[Nori1958]

He's right the PL is an attractive destination but I suspect (in some cases) the terms we have offered haven't been as attractive as the destination itself.

Burnley, bottom of the league, with half the season gone will not be a good proposition for anybody of the standard we would require to climb the league.

[taio]

Of course players of the required standard would be typically put off signing for a club at serious risk of relegation in January.

[Jakubclaret]

Burnley, bottom of the league, with half the season gone will not be a good proposition for anybody of the standard we would require to climb the league.

I agree wholeheartedly, it was a general comment as it hasn't always been the case where we have been bottom we once qualified for Europe in the not too long recent past. The point I'm making is we'd struggle to match what other clubs would offer it's always going to be a tall order attracting anybody of an elite calibre. Being in the top league isn't much of a bonus if you don't have the financial clout to make a fine fist of it.

[Jakubclaret]

Of course players of the required standard would be typically put off signing for a club at serious risk of relegation in January.

It'd make no odds anyway even if they did fancy it irrespective of the league position, you would still need to find the reddies to make the move appetising.

[taio]

It'd make no odds anyway even if they did fancy it irrespective of the league position, you would still need to find the reddies to make the move appetising.

Obviously

[Jakubclaret]

Obviously

If the argument doesn't stand up it shouldn't be used as that reason alone, I'm not suggesting you have initiated such a suggestion.

[Anthonini]

Who cares if they want to come or not? That's always very hypothetical. You always try to get the best you can get. Some players aren't happy with their current situation. If Burnley wins a few games it can be quite a pleasant environment with a great staff and good atmosphere.

Most importantly the development of the player is guaranteed so any manager would also recommend a move to Burnley as his client's value would go up and he will become better in the process.

[taio]

If the argument doesn't stand up it shouldn't be used as that reason alone, I'm not suggesting you have initiated such a suggestion.

It's a common situation where a club in a precarious position wants to sign a player in January and has the funds available to do so, but the player doesn't want to move because of the club's risk of relegation. Equally, a club may not wish to commit further funds on fees and wages if they are more likely to be relegated than not. Either of those scenarios could easily apply to us if our results don't improve quickly.

[Anthonini]

When has Odobert hugely impressed?
Not saying he hasn't got potential but he hasn't done much in the games he's played hence why he hasn't played much since

Did you really expect him to hugely impress? I'd say he's shown alot already for an 18 year old kid. Very skillful and fast player. Pretty good finishing too. Good signing.

He's the type of guy that if you wouldn't have gotten him this summer, probably had a great season in a lower league, making him become twice as expensive and he'd be on the radar of bigger clubs.

Same goes for Foster who they got pretty cheap just before he really made a big impression. It's a good strategy to get high profile youngsters. Good for the player's development and also good for us.

[Jakubclaret]

It's a common situation where a club in a precarious position wants to sign a player in January and has the funds available to do so, but the player doesn't want to move because of the club's risk of relegation. Equally, a club may not wish to commit further funds on fees and wages if they are more likely to be relegated than not. Either of those scenarios could easily apply to us if our results don't improve quickly.

The sort of quality we'd need would you risk it? January is a notorious difficult transfer window at the best of times & if the view is held that money has already been squandered the last thing you'd do is give somebody some more money to waste. If results don't improve by the end of December you are chucking good money away after bad.

[taio]

The sort of quality we'd need would you risk it? January is a notorious difficult transfer window at the best of times & if the view is held that money has already been squandered the last thing you'd do is give somebody some more money to waste. If results don't improve by the end of December you are chucking good money away after bad.

If results don't improve, no.

[JohnMcGreal]

Every player wants to play in the PL

That's just not true.

[Jakubclaret]

That's just not true.

Most do if the money was equal. Players aren't going to America & China & UAE for the quality of football it's the money. If you offered them the same money & inclusion & give them a choice where do you think they'd pick?

[JohnMcGreal]

Most do if the money was equal. Players aren't going to America & China & UAE for the quality of football it's the money. If you offered them the same money & inclusion & give them a choice where do you think they'd pick?

Some just go where they can get paid the most money. Some play in certain countries for the lifestyle. Some want to stay near their home.

To claim that every player wants to play in the PL simply isn't true.

[bumba]

Did you really expect him to hugely impress? I'd say he's shown alot already for an 18 year old kid. Very skillful and fast player. Pretty good finishing too. Good signing.

He's the type of guy that if you wouldn't have gotten him this summer, probably had a great season in a lower league, making him become twice as expensive and he'd be on the radar of bigger clubs.

Same goes for Foster who they got pretty cheap just before he really made a big impression. It's a good strategy to get high profile youngsters. Good for the player's development and also good for us.

I was replying to a poster who said he'd been hugely impressed with him so far, he's scored one goal against Chelsea and hasn't completed 90 minutes yet but you know he's a good finisher?
He could be a great addition but he's another not yet ready for the premier league and from what I've seen in the premier league he's miles away from being close

[Anthonini]

I was replying to a poster who said he'd been hugely impressed with him so far, he's scored one goal against Chelsea and hasn't completed 90 minutes yet but you know he's a good finisher?
He could be a great addition but he's another not yet ready for the premier league and from what I've seen in the premier league he's miles away from being close

Fair enough. Compared to other small fast players who enjoy taking on their opponents, Odobert does seem to be calm and powerful when striking the ball. See a Koleosho for example. They usually do everything right until the moment of truth then they kick the ball out of the stadium.

Not hugely impressed either though I have seen very promising things of him. I'd say he's right on schedule.