Clarets v Everton Match Thread

[JBR]

Get VK out I’ve had enough

[willsclarets]

We've been terrible a couple of times, at defending.

The rest of it, has been ok. We need a goalscorer like everyone else does too.

Ok in general play yes. I wouldn't say it's just the goals we've been bad defensively, we are very easy to counter at pace. There's been a good few times one of their midfielders has had room to run into with the ball at our defensive third. And more obviously from crosses, we are a shambles.

[Wokingclaret]

JJ there too

[watsonsclarets]

The thing is though Bayer can't defend either said it before and will say it again he is a back 3-man but in a 2 he loses his man all the time and doesn't talk about the fact he can't win anything aerilly. Back 4 is a shambles without the ball and with it the lack of movement in front of them is scary. Not our day we being taught a lesson.

[Neil]

Has Berge had a kick yet?

[JBR]

Everton can score with every cross. Only slight chance we have is to get Muric on to dominate his area. If I can see the problems before the game why can’t VK ?

Disgraceful Muric can’t get a game

[BurnleyFC]

Getting out passed massively by a Dyche side too.

What a depressing half.

[JimmyRobbo]

You can't afford to be terrible at defending a couple of times. We see it every game.

We all know that.

We're probably going down. We have a side which will struggle to win many games. We have a small, inexperienced, cheap side.

What do people expect?

Enjoy the ride, FFS! Enjoy watching some players develop. We will gradually improve because we are young and inexperienced.

[FCBurnley]

JJ should be playing at ch. At least he might win the odd header

[CoolClaret]

The thing is though Bayer can't defend either said it before and will say it again he is a back 3-man but in a 2 he loses his man all the time and doesn't talk about the fact he can't win anything aerilly. Back 4 is a shambles without the ball and with it the lack of movement is scary. Not our day we being taught a lesson.

He's been shite all year sadly.

Just not a PL centre half in a team that has to do some defending.

It's criminal that Ekdal isn't playing.

[Safron]

It's madening all the goals we concede are all self inflicted

[JBR]

This is a walk in the park for Everton

[KRBFC]

Think we’ve turned a corner in the last 5 games, this is shockingly bad though. Rodriguez can’t even control a simple pass, this left back is so bad, O’Shea is a mistake waiting to happen, collectively weak on corners.

[Neil]

We all know that.

We're probably going down. We have a side which will struggle to win many games. We have a small, inexperienced, cheap side.

What do people expect?

Enjoy the ride, FFS! Enjoy watching some players develop. We will gradually improve because we are young and inexperienced.

I think we expect the basics to be at least decent.
Defending crosses, showing strength etc

[Safron]

Big second half because this is the worst first half I've witnessed this season

[Murger]

We are as weak as ****. It’s embarrassing at how we constantly fail at the basics.

[JBR]

No wonder tella, Maatsen and THB didn’t fancy it. They aren’t mugs!

[willsclarets]

I don't want vk sacked but it's worrying how we don't seem to learn from mistakes.

[CoolClaret]

Please can we have one game of Muric and Ekdal? Just once?

[scamander]

Disgraceful Muric can’t get a game

I'm not trying to poke the hornets nest which is the whole Muric/Traffird thing but was Muric strong in the air? Only saw him in the TV matches last season but he looked very unconvincing at crosses and seemed a weak 'big' keeper. Genuine question - was he good in dealing with crosses/corners?

[JimmyRobbo]

Getting out passed massively by a Dyche side too.

What a depressing half.

A Dyche side? Full of experienced internationals at all key positions. Everton are a very good side. Very well organised. They lack strength in depth but they would be in Europe at the end of this season but for the points deduction. They may still make it. They've just won 3 on the bounce without conceding. (Including Newxastle and Chelsea in the last 2).

[THEWELLERNUT70]

Yes. WE should be winning every game.

Every team that comes up wins every game.

Problem is we have been sh!t for the .IST part today as we have in far too many games so far this season. We don't seem to have any game plan apart from knock it around in little triangles at the back, then chip it into midfield, lose possession, rinse and repeat until the opposition score. Then we tend to go a bit longer with our passing

It's just a mess

[willsclarets]

I'm amazed anyone thinks muric makes a difference

[KRBFC]

We have absolutely no runner in behind to play long to

[JBR]

I'm not trying to poke the hornets nest which is the whole Muric/Traffird thing but was Muric strong in the air? Only saw him in the TV matches last season but he looked very unconvincing at crosses and seemed a weak 'big' keeper. Genuine question - was he good in dealing with crosses/corners?

Against Everton in the Cup he was good at claiming crosses , yes

First goal wouldn’t have happened with him in nets

[Boss Hogg]

My summary from Turf Moir: we are as weak as ****. Total non threatening football. It’s awful to watch today.

[burnleymik]

Pfft O'Shea. What are we doing here lads? Our body language is like we are already done. No one leading us.

[spt_claret]

We all know that.

We're probably going down. We have a side which will struggle to win many games. We have a small, inexperienced, cheap side.

What do people expect?

Enjoy the ride, FFS! Enjoy watching some players develop. We will gradually improve because we are young and inexperienced.

Such dreadful lowered expectations. I think people expected that spending £90m in the summer after a 101pt championship win would build a squad that could compete to survive.

There's nothing to enjoy about weekly beatings where the same flaws are exposed and don't improve. Nothing to enjoy about seeing the same selection decisions clung to after continuous tactical and individual problems. And players won't develop as much if they are low on confidence and subject to regular hidings

This isn't glass half full this is "We were always at war with Eurasia"

[JBR]

The bar wasn’t very high but this is easily the worst half of the season

[bf2k]

Get VK out I’ve had enough

Shut up

[claret2018]

You could stick Trafford and Muric in goal together and we’d still get beat.

[bf2k]

Pfft O'Shea. What are we doing here lads? Our body language is like we are already done. No one leading us.

Him and Vitinho need taking off. Not having good games

[burnleymik]

If only vitty could shoot

[KRBFC]

It’s the standard thing on here, players become better without playing. I love Muric as much as anyone but he was the biggest flapper at crosses.

Just like Larsen was the best player at the club when he wasn’t playing, now he’s playing reality hits and he’s bang average.

[kentonclaret]

This is a walk in the park for Everton

Just wait until the other set of scousers arrive on Boxing Day.

[RVclaret]

Outstanding defending from Godfrey. We’ve had some good chances this half but all blocked or defended superbly. Massive difference between the sides when you look at the other end.

[JBR]

Just wait until the other set of scousers arrive on Boxing Day.

[JBR]

The most disappointing thing is that people think it’s acceptable to get drubbed every week.

[burnleymik]

The one positive is that we can't be much worse second half!

[spt_claret]

Think we’ve turned a corner in the last 5 games, this is shockingly bad though. Rodriguez can’t even control a simple pass, this left back is so bad, O’Shea is a mistake waiting to happen, collectively weak on corners.

I got pilloried for saying Jays done by some people. Posted stats the other day his tackling is decent but everything else is abysmal. Anyone would offer more, Larsen, Redmond, Obafemi, he just can't contribute anything beyond defensive-half tackles anymore

[JBR]

Hopefully we actually turn up the second half!

[Buxtonclaret]

Awful half of football.
Hard work watching this.

[Sheedyclaret]

Really poor again have we still got the receipt for o shea he’s absolutely shite

[Dyched]

Some really positive signs that half

[ElectroClaret]

HT
Dreadful, dreadful stuff.

[TPClaret]

Get VK out I’ve had enough

[Pickles]

Is it looking like another game where the opposition have won/will win without having to play well?

What sort of team are we? We don't keep the ball, we don't counter attack, we don't press high, we don't use set pieces.

It's one thing not being good enough, and I'm sort of fine with that. But this is wishy washy nothingness. It's not even looking like the type of team Kompany wants anymore.

[Pearcey]

Quite pleased I’ll be cycling home and missing the second half. We are so weak it’s incredible.

[FCBurnley]

Trafford continually gives the ball away or plays his receivers into trouble because he passes the ball so slowly that when our player gets the ball he is totally surrounded.
Pace should acutely embarrassed. I certainly am

[Casper2]

The one positive is that we can't be much worse second half!

Please don’t say things like this