ARTICLE: Luton game moves to this Friday

[bumba]

Unfortunately many people do not care unless a problem actually affects them and their own lives. Like you say, empathy is in short supply.

Probably aimed at me it has affected me and has affected my life but it's not the end of the world is it?
There's wars going on, we should be grateful we've got football to watch not moaning that it makes travel arrangements a little bit more difficult.

[Bordeauxclaret]

Probably aimed at me it has affected me and has affected my life but it's not the end of the world is it?
There's wars going on, we should be grateful we've got football to watch not moaning that it makes travel arrangements a little bit more difficult.

Presumably James Trafford’s footballing ability is more important than these wars given you’ve spent all season moaning about him?

Be useful to have a list of what can and can’t be complained about.

[bumba]

Presumably James Trafford’s footballing ability is more important than these wars given you’ve spent all season moaning about him?

Be useful to have a list of what can and can’t be complained about.

I wouldn't call an honest assesment moaning, it was the truth.
If a footballer told me he was going to play bad then did play bad I wouldn't moan about it because he told us he was going to do it!

[Jakubclaret]

I thought I would have a check on this thread.....omg not a lot of empathy for those fans from afar or fans with jobs and bosses that don't appreciate on a Monday morning being asked to give Friday afternoon as holiday and cancel my Monday I had booked.

I have solved my own problem but not my partners, and so I am travelling alone tomorrow, on the plus side I am in charge of the radio and music plus the seat alongside me will not moan at the speed...negative side another game missed by a season ticket holder.

Having been to Luton this season I am hoping to see us do the double tomorrow, stay positive UTC

It's a scenario that was always subject to change depending on the Luton & Bolton score. So in that respect not anticipating or envisaging such a scenario taking place is poor planning & naïvety at best. You plan ahead accordingly factoring in both scenarios as possiblities & it's well advanced notice that was the case apart from the actual confirmed date which could have only happened once the Luton & Bolton game finished as the result it did.

[Kilson810]

Probably aimed at me it has affected me and has affected my life but it's not the end of the world is it?
There's wars going on, we should be grateful we've got football to watch not moaning that it makes travel arrangements a little bit more difficult.

Not really, I am relatively late to the party on this one and 4 pages of replies is too much for me to unpick entirely.

No one said it's the end of the world, but it's an inconvenience to many, that was easily avoidable.

[dougcollins]

It's a scenario that was always subject to change depending on the Luton & Bolton score. So in that respect not anticipating or envisaging such a scenario taking place is poor planning & naïvety at best. You plan ahead accordingly factoring in both scenarios as possiblities & it's well advanced notice that was the case apart from the actual confirmed date which could have only happened once the Luton & Bolton game finished as the result it did.

You do realise that all that could have been completely avoided?

It's not acceptable, whatever excuses you come up with.

[Jakubclaret]

You do realise that all that could have been completely avoided?

It's not acceptable, whatever excuses you come up with.

How?

[Jakubclaret]

You do realise that all that could have been completely avoided?

It's not acceptable, whatever excuses you come up with.

Unfortunately if some matches can't be decided after the 90 replays are necessary. It's not ideal for Everton & palace playing wednesday evening & palace playing Saturday midday. When you sign up to following football you know things are far from conventional & things change. It's not exactly a 9-5 Mon to Friday set in stone type of arrangement. If not just us or Luton getting dicked about all the ties that finished as draws & matches are brought forward or back will have some sort of repurcussions, it is what it is.

[dougcollins]

Unfortunately if some matches can't be decided after the 90 replays are necessary. It's not ideal for Everton & palace playing wednesday evening & palace playing Saturday midday. When you sign up to following football you know things are far from conventional & things change. It's not exactly a 9-5 Mon to Friday set in stone type of arrangement. If not just us or Luton getting dicked about all the ties that finished as draws & matches are brought forward or back will have some sort of repurcussions, it is what it is.

Excuses. It could have been planned for these scenarios and avoided.

[Jakubclaret]

Excuses. It could have been planned for these scenarios and avoided.

For every single club not knowing when/if the replays would be necessary, even if you do end up rearranging people are still in limbo not being certain because a decision couldn't be made until after the luton & Bolton game. You'll never make everybody happy whichever way you do it people will always be inconvenienced to some sort of a degree.

[Leisure]

How?

By scheduling it for the Friday in the first place!

[Jakubclaret]

By scheduling it for the Friday in the first place!

A good reason must have existed in the first place why they didn't. They haven't just become bored & suddenly a lightbulb switched hey this is a good idea why don't we p1ss Burnley & Luton fans off. The replays aren't ideal for everybody with the rescheduled dates but I dare say some will be relieved that it is Friday especially if you are on a 6-2 shift it's eating into your weekend as football would normally do, instead of taking the Monday off. some people could & more likely be saving themselves an extra holiday the way things have transpired.

[Roosterbooster]

A good reason must have existed in the first place why they didn't.

Yet not one single person has managed to give one

[Jakubclaret]

Yet not one single person has managed to give one

Like I've said I'm sure all the clubs that have faced opposition who need replays will be inconvenienced in some sort of a way as well as the direct clubs. I think some are assuming that it is an inconvenience to some people because I think some people working on earlies or even possibly days will be very happy that Monday doesn't have to be used. If I had to choose out of 2 days which 1 I preferred to relax & have a lie in or maybe nurse a hangover it certainly wouldn't be a working Tuesday.

[Roosterbooster]

You nursing a hangover is no excuse for the late notice. That's a terrible reason

[Jakubclaret]

You nursing a hangover is no excuse for the late notice. That's a terrible reason

I don't drink alcohol but plenty of people do & I guess alcohol consumption is at its highest on a Fri or sat due to the weekend. It isn't the sole reason but 1 of many that I could offer Friday being the preference over a Monday.

[Big Vinny K]

Like I've said I'm sure all the clubs that have faced opposition who need replays will be inconvenienced in some sort of a way as well as the direct clubs. I think some are assuming that it is an inconvenience to some people because I think some people working on earlies or even possibly days will be very happy that Monday doesn't have to be used. If I had to choose out of 2 days which 1 I preferred to relax & have a lie in or maybe nurse a hangover it certainly wouldn't be a working Tuesday.

That’s not an answer or reason for them deciding to schedule the game on the Monday rather than the Friday is it ?
That’s just you blabbing on about a Friday being better for hangovers and as usually completely avoiding the point even when somebody has given you the answer to the question you asked.

If this had been scheduled for the Friday tv game in the first place then nobody is upset or has to change plans or lose money or take extra holidays etc

It does not impact me greatly (I did have to cancel and rearrange something planned for tomorrow) but I can at least see why it impacted others and also that it was a situation that could have very easily been avoided.

[Jakubclaret]

That’s not an answer or reason for them deciding to schedule the game on the Monday rather than the Friday is it ?
That’s just you blabbing on about a Friday being better for hangovers and as usually completely avoiding the point even when somebody has given you the answer to the question you asked.

If this had been scheduled for the Friday tv game in the first place then nobody is upset or has to change plans or lose money or take extra holidays etc

It does not impact me greatly (I did have to cancel and rearrange something planned for tomorrow) but I can at least see why it impacted others and also that it was a situation that could have very easily been avoided.

I've haven't babbled about anything. Some people will prefer Friday & some people would have preferred Monday it's down to individual circumstances & preferences. The assumption shouldn't be that everybody will be inconvenienced because plenty of reasons do exist why Friday could be the favourite for some people. It shouldn't really make any odds anyway had it been originally planned for a Friday because a 2 way possibility existed that it would have been for that day anyway. Regarding a lack of proper planning you run into problems, plan properly & you don't.

[dougcollins]

I've haven't babbled about anything. Some people will prefer Friday & some people would have preferred Monday it's down to individual circumstances & preferences. The assumption shouldn't be that everybody will be inconvenienced because plenty of reasons do exist why Friday could be the favourite for some people. It shouldn't really make any odds anyway had it been originally planned for a Friday because a 2 way possibility existed that it would have been for that day anyway. Regarding a lack of proper planning you run into problems, plan properly & you don't.

This isn't about personal prefences for a particular day.

It's about planning ahead so that fans- particularly the Luton fans- don't have to 5 days notice for the game.

[Jakubclaret]

This isn't about personal prefences for a particular day.

It's about planning ahead so that fans- particularly the Luton fans- don't have to 5 days notice for the game.

The possibility of that although not confirmed was a lot longer than 5 days.

[Big Vinny K]

I've haven't babbled about anything. Some people will prefer Friday & some people would have preferred Monday it's down to individual circumstances & preferences. The assumption shouldn't be that everybody will be inconvenienced because plenty of reasons do exist why Friday could be the favourite for some people. It shouldn't really make any odds anyway had it been originally planned for a Friday because a 2 way possibility existed that it would have been for that day anyway. Regarding a lack of proper planning you run into problems, plan properly & you don't.

Absolute rubbish.
Do you not understand that if it was original planned for the Friday the 2 way possibility does not exist ?
Is it that hard for you to comprehend

“Plan properly” ? How ?
- take 2 days off work ?
- book hotels for both nights ?
- book 2 sets of train tickets ?
Etc etc

Obviously you are not impacted by it but you seem to want to ignore that others are or the fact that it was a totally avoidable situation.

[Jakubclaret]

Absolute rubbish.
Do you not understand that if it was original planned for the Friday the 2 way possibility does not exist ?
Is it that hard for you to comprehend

“Plan properly” ? How ?
- take 2 days off work ?
- book hotels for both nights ?
- book 2 sets of train tickets ?
Etc etc

Obviously you are not impacted by it but you seem to want to ignore that others are or the fact that it was a totally avoidable situation.

You are offering a worse casebook example without even knowing the impact. Have you personally asked all the travelling Luton fans?

[Big Vinny K]

You are offering a worse casebook example without even knowing the impact. Have you personally asked all the travelling Luton fans?

No I’m not - I’m offering real life examples of how it may impact a burnley or Luton fan. Some of which have been posted on this thread as to why they cannot attend.

You cannot seem to understand that this is not about which day is preferable for supporters of either club.
It’s about changing the day at 5 days notice.
So even if it impacts on just one fan having to change their plans it was a situation that could have been wholly avoided if it would have been scheduled for the Friday and not the Monday.

[Nori1958]

This isn't about personal prefences for a particular day.

It's about planning ahead so that fans- particularly the Luton fans- don't have to 5 days notice for the game.

Tickets for Luton fans only went on sale a couple of weeks ago
Do we know if Luton informed their supporters of the possible change?
If they did, then tickets were purchased knowing the game could be changed

[Jakubclaret]

No I’m not - I’m offering real life examples of how it may impact a burnley or Luton fan. Some of which have been posted on this thread as to why they cannot attend.

You cannot seem to understand that this is not about which day is preferable for supporters of either club.
It’s about changing the day at 5 days notice.
So even if it impacts on just on one fan having to change their plans it was a situation that could have been wholly avoided if it would have been scheduled for the Friday and not the Monday.

I wanted to know for myself so I had a look on their forum to guage how badly affected they was & it appears that they aren't bothered we seem more bothered & TM is on our own doorstep for the vast numbers of people. The only threads on the Luton town forum I could see is Burnley pubs probably relieved they can enjoy a good drink & enjoy their weekend (more so with 3 in the bag back to Bedfordshire) I should imagine. It makes no odds far bigger issues in life than being het up about something which in reality for some people as turned out for the best.

[AmbleClaret]

Just imagine being Jakubclaret. You could literally fall out with yourself in an empty room,in a post nuclear world with no other living species ,quite an achievement.

[Jakubclaret]

Only on here trust me I've tried lots of other places.

[Roosterbooster]

I don't drink alcohol but plenty of people do & I guess alcohol consumption is at its highest on a Fri or sat due to the weekend. It isn't the sole reason but 1 of many that I could offer Friday being the preference over a Monday.

I'm really confused

You say there are reasons why the game couldn't be automatically changed to a Friday, and then explain why Friday is a better day anyway

But I still have zero answers as to why the decision to move to the Friday couldn't have been made before the 3rd round results were known

A predictable outcome
An avoidable solution
Yet all ignored until the last minute

I also personally complained to the PL and got the predictable BS response

They have no care for the fans whatsoever

[dougcollins]

My gran was right, she said ‘never enter into an argument with a fool, as a bystander won’t be able to tell the difference’.

You know it’s wrong, but you just get drawn in.

[Jakubclaret]

I'm really confused

You say there are reasons why the game couldn't be automatically changed to a Friday, and then explain why Friday is a better day anyway

But I still have zero answers as to why the decision to move to the Friday couldn't have been made before the 3rd round results were known

A predictable outcome
An avoidable solution
Yet all ignored until the last minute

I also personally complained to the PL and got the predictable BS response

They have no care for the fans whatsoever

I've got absolutely no idea why Friday couldn't be set originally instead of Monday but it was always a possibility it was going to be that day anyway again dependant on the Luton & Bolton result. The confirmed date was short but the possibility of that happening was a lot longer. I didn't say there was reasons at all so please don't lie I actually said a good singular reason must have existed nothing plural about it, I said multiple reasons existed why after the move date, friday could have been more preferable to some people nothing to do with reasons why that Friday date wasn't originally set because I don't know the reason myself apart from assuming 1 good reason must have existed.

[Jakubclaret]

I'm really confused

You say there are reasons why the game couldn't be automatically changed to a Friday, and then explain why Friday is a better day anyway

But I still have zero answers as to why the decision to move to the Friday couldn't have been made before the 3rd round results were known

A predictable outcome
An avoidable solution
Yet all ignored until the last minute

I also personally complained to the PL and got the predictable BS response

They have no care for the fans whatsoever

If you tried telling the truth more often you could avoid the unnecessary "confusion" you seem to be experiencing. I suggest you go back to the post where I've responded to leisure because you clearly have missed it or it hasn't sunk in if you have read it.

[Nori1958]

I've got absolutely no idea why Friday couldn't be set originally instead of Monday but it was always a possibility it was going to be that day anyway again dependant on the Luton & Bolton result. The confirmed date was short but the possibility of that happening was a lot longer. I didn't say there was reasons at all so please don't lie I actually said a good singular reason must have existed nothing plural about it, I said multiple reasons existed why after the move date, friday could have been more preferable to some people nothing to do with reasons why that Friday date wasn't originally set because I don't know the reason myself apart from assuming 1 good reason must have existed.

TNT must have preferred to screen it on a Monday