Brazilian Andy Farrell

[footballdiedin92]

Vitinho gets pelters on here. Regardless of whether he's in certain position, and he's clearly better in some than others. But he puts the f xking effort in.

****** off like everyone on here, and bizarrely I'm angry because someone tonight will sla g vitinho off.
He's not my favourite player, but he's one of a few who you can't ask for more from.

[StayingDown4Ever]

Not many will doubt his effort, just his ability.

I think he will be decent in the Championship next season.

[Vino blanco]

He must be good because he starts nearly every week.

[randomclaret2]

Certainly a trier, but like Andy Farrell probably about Third Division quality

[MDWat]

I thought he played pretty well today and his desire, along with Cullen’s, was streets ahead of most on the pitch.

[spt_claret]

He works harder than most.
He's been hung out to dry several times playing out of position especially at leftback with Odobert ahead of him who does zero defensive work and is still living off his earlier goals and a few stepovers (his feigned injury and his lack of effort to receive a pass that led to Taylor getting clobbered sum up his performance today).
He's not got much end product at passing, crossing or shooting.
He's defensively suspect.
His off the ball movement and attacking runs are genuinely exceptional and if he had any level of end product he'd be a top player just from attrition with how well he finds space.
He's not PL standard but is young enough that theoretically can still improve in his main position,but needs to hurry.
For 1m, we have much much worse value for money players

[AlargeClaret]

Can’t fault his desire and I thought Cullen and Taylor fought hard too , we’re simply nowhere near good enough

[criminalclaret]

I thought you were on about the rugby coach for a second there

[HahaYeah]

At least he shows some knackers.

[NickBFC]

I thought today was his best game on a long while. He is a grafter and that's all we can ask for now until the summer.

[Vegas Claret]

if the rest put in his effort we wouldn't be in the bottom 3

[Bordeauxclaret]

He tries his best but is severely lacking in quality for this level. By a long way.

[Burnleyareback2]

Man of the match today

[BurnleyFC]

He’s always works hard and always shows for the ball.

He’s also a better footballer than a fair few of this season’s purchases.

[CoolClaret]

If all of them grafted like Vitinho we'd be on more than 13 points; that's for damn sure.

[Pickles]

We're at the stage where the best compliment we can give is effort. Should be the bare minimum. Vitinho's not good enough. A team crying out for a goal, with Vitinho at the centre of everything in a sort of free role position. Is it any wonder.

[Sozturf7]

Thought it was your post. Got my MOTM

[alboclaret]

I thought he was good first half.
Loafs of effort as usually. He's better in midfield than at full back obviously.

Cullen also seemed OK. He was moving it quicker than anyone like he had a point to prove. He struggled at the start of the season but cant see why he doesn't keep his place now as browhill been poor anyway.

[shulgin]

Best thing about Vitinho is that there is no hiding from him. A trier and keeps going even if it goes wrong. If only the likes of Amdouni had an ounce of his attitude.

[expoultryboy]

Always gives 100%

[forzagranata]

"The Brazilian Andy Farrell" lol

Wonder if we will see him in goal this season?

[daveisaclaret]

We've got 23 wingers and some people are happy to see a below-average right back playing ahead of them all because he tries hard. Scary.

[Vegas Claret]

24 year old, million quid. Definition of a no risk signing and he still gets in the team. Says a lot about Vitinho and his attitude and application

[creepingdeath]

Vithinio was in the worst 11 according to whoscored ratings

“On the right of Burnley’s midfield, Vitinho gave Bournemouth the ball 21 times – once for every two touches. He was replaced on 76 minutes with a passing accuracy of 48 per cent having missed his one big chance.”


https://www.football365.com/news/premie ... ton-wolves

[Selby Claret]

I'm just pleased this thread wasn't about the 90s Claret legend regretting a waxing decision

[Jakubs Tash]

Vithinio was in the worst 11 according to whoscored ratings

“On the right of Burnley’s midfield, Vitinho gave Bournemouth the ball 21 times – once for every two touches. He was replaced on 76 minutes with a passing accuracy of 48 per cent having missed his one big chance.”


https://www.football365.com/news/premie ... ton-wolves

But, but….he’s tries really hard.

[randomclaret2]

24 year old, million quid. Definition of a no risk signing and he still gets in the team. Says a lot about Vitinho and his attitude and application

True, but it also explains why we are currently on 13 points. Too many players who arent good enough.

[spt_claret]

Vithinio was in the worst 11 according to whoscored ratings

“On the right of Burnley’s midfield, Vitinho gave Bournemouth the ball 21 times – once for every two touches. He was replaced on 76 minutes with a passing accuracy of 48 per cent having missed his one big chance.”


https://www.football365.com/news/premie ... ton-wolves

As I posted in another thread there is zero transparency around the algorithm Whoscored use for their player ratings beyond weighting win bonuses for outfield players in order of attacking position. They talk about impact on a game, my pure speculation from this is that by and large they weight quantities over percentages ie- a guy who makes lots of passes would be weighed as having more impact than a more accurate but less frequent passer. So you give the ball away a lot, rating goes down. Hide and contribute nothing like Odobert, not as many "give ball aways" against you so while you're not getting positive points you're not getting negative ones either.

People put so much faith in analytics sites "Ratings" without even having any transparency around the calculation algorithm. With a raw stat you know what's being measured even if you might not attribute much importance to it. An abstracted interpretation with no showing the method is a meaningless measure as you don't know what it's actually measuring. Good or bad, it's a meaningless metric.

[distortiondave]

Giving the ball away with half your touches is pretty bad regardless of how many touches there have been.