World Snooker Championship

[Beagle]

Anyone else been watching this week? Already a couple of upsets and big names going out. Enjoying Murphy v Maguire at the moment. Can anyone stop Ronnie?

[TheFamilyCat]

I've been watching bits.

I thought the BBC had binned Virgo off, but he's still there polluting my eardrums.

[Owdsyker]

I've been watching bits.

I thought the BBC had binned Virgo off, but he's still there polluting my eardrums.

Much, much better on Eurosport

[Beagle]

O’Sullivan through to the quarters, along with Kyren Wilson. Not been many classics this round, but two attractive matches reaching a conclusion tonight in Higgins v Allen and Lisowski v Bingham.

[mikeS]

Only Ronnie can stop Ronnie.

[Swizzlestick]

Poor tournament so far, not helped by some big names dropping out early (or sometimes not even qualifying) and some strange scheduling. Probably also not helped comparing to last year where Brecel delivered one of the all time great WC wins imo.

Hoping things pick up now we're getting to the business end. Kyren and Judd are the only ones looking like they have even close to the capability to stop Ronnie at the moment.

[Swizzlestick]

Much better tonight. Really good snooker and close finishes in both Higgins v Allen and Lisowski v Bingham.

[Tricky Trevor]

The Higgins/Allen 24th frame was a belter. Not for the potters though. Super safety.

[Chester Perry]

What an astounding pair of games tonight - really good match play on both tables, and the finish from Higgins in the 25th was sublime

[jdrobbo]

That final clearance from Higgins was world class. Two incredible shots. Bags of nerves.

[Swizzlestick]

That final red by Higgins one of the best shots I’ve ever seen. Unbelievable.

[claret wizard]

The Higgins Allen game was only the 8th time in Crucible history (47 years) that a game has come down to the final black ball.

[Devils_Advocate]

The Higgins Allen game was only the 8th time in Crucible history (47 years) that a game has come down to the final black ball.

I think there was a final in the 80's that went to the last black. Think it was when outsider Joe Johnson beat Steve Davis who was the world #1 at the time.

[Chester Perry]

Dennis Taylor - it was an incredible match - over 20m watched that final

you can watch the final frame here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnyKjK4zAiE

[Tricky Trevor]

I think there was a final in the 80's that went to the last black. Think it was when outsider Joe Johnson beat Steve Davis who was the world #1 at the time.

BBC2 had an hour of a programme about the match a couple of days back. I’d have preferred the full frame but as posted above it is available.

[Beagle]

Qualifier Jack Jones knocks out Judd Trump, who was playing beautiful snooker last week but looked off it most of that match. Jones to play Bingham or O’Sullivan in the semi.

[Tricky Trevor]

Seeing there’s a snooker thread here's a snooker question.
What is the lowest possible score that can legally win a finished frame of snooker?

[matttheclaret]

Seeing there’s a snooker thread here's a snooker question.
What is the lowest possible score that can legally win a finished frame of snooker?

Must be 22 I think

[Tricky Trevor]

Must be 22 I think

No cigar. I won’t reply to every answer unless someone gets it. I’ll give it 24 hrs before posting the solution.

[matttheclaret]

No cigar. I won’t reply to every answer unless someone gets it. I’ll give it 24 hrs before posting the solution.

I'll stand corrected perhaps, but I'm pretty sure it is 22!

[Chester Perry]

12

all points awarded for a foul and a miss - frame lost after 3 consecutive such called efforts

[Tricky Trevor]

12

all points awarded for a foul and a miss - frame lost after 3 consecutive such called efforts

I can’t argue with that and it is less than mine. Mine involves all balls potted and there are two ways to the same total.

[Devils_Advocate]

I can’t argue with that and it is less than mine. Mine involves all balls potted and there are two ways to the same total.

If someone is 21-14 up with just the black left and they pot the black but go in off would the other player win the frame and also end up on 21?

[Beagle]

If someone is 21-14 up with just the black left and they pot the black but go in off would the other player win the frame and also end up on 21?

It would be a respotted black following a draw at the end of the frame. Going in off on the black doesn’t lose you the frame in snooker.

[Devils_Advocate]

It would be a respotted black following a draw at the end of the frame. Going in off on the black doesn’t lose you the frame in snooker.

I thought any foul on the black when it was the last ball lost the frame but wasn't sure when it made it tied. If you are two behind and your opponent fouls on the black that would be end of frame even though they are now only five behind wouldn't it?

[Swizzlestick]

I suppose you could have the utterly ridiculous scenario of pot all 15 reds with one shot then the white goes in - 4-0 to opponent with just the colours left

Opponent pots yellow, green, brown and blue - 18-0, snookers required.

I would imagine it defies the laws of physics, like…

[Juan Tanamera]

It's going dark for Ronnie.

[Juan Tanamera]

And then Bingham misses a sitter.

[TheFamilyCat]

It's going dark for Ronnie.

One last chance for Ronnie?

Hope so. In a sport of dull men, Stuart Bingham is by far the dullest.

[Devils_Advocate]

I suppose you could have the utterly ridiculous scenario of pot all 15 reds with one shot then the white goes in - 4-0 to opponent with just the colours left

Opponent pots yellow, green, brown and blue - 18-0, snookers required.

I would imagine it defies the laws of physics, like…

In this scenario it could end 16-15 as there are 31 pts up for grabs (27+4)

[helmclaret]

Seeing there’s a snooker thread here's a snooker question.
What is the lowest possible score that can legally win a finished frame of snooker?

0-0. A player can concede at any time.

[Tricky Trevor]

In this scenario it could end 16-15 as there are 31 pts up for grabs (27+4)

The winner.
The alternative is:
15 reds + in off=player gets4 away+2=6
Opponent gets 3
Player gets 4
Opponent gets 5
Player gets 6 and wins. Black not needed
Game ends 16-8

[Devils_Advocate]

The winner.
The alternative is:
15 reds + in off=player gets4 away+2=6
Opponent gets 3
Player gets 4
Opponent gets 5
Player gets 6 and wins. Black not needed
Game ends 16-8

I think Swizzlestick gets the credit for this

[equinox]

Nightmare tournament for the sponsors, only ClaretCharlie will be watching the rest of this year's affair.

[Targetman]

It would be a respotted black following a draw at the end of the frame. Going in off on the black doesn’t lose you the frame in snooker.

Going in off the black ALWAYS loses the frame unless there is exactly 7 difference in the scores.

As mentioned in the post above, the scores would then be tied following the in off and the black would be re-spotted.

[Sutton-Claret]

I'm really getting back into watching and playing snooker... My youngest lad has shown an interest so I let him have a couple of lessons in York last year. Since then we've played almost weekly - he's yet to beat me but has come close a couple of times. I used to play a lot in my early 20s and had the luxury of my own table to practice on - Sundays were spent either playing or comotozed watching snooker on BBC2 after a big Saturday night out.

[Goalposts]

I grew up with snooker in my family, my dad regularly played in the Observer cup in accrington and that was quite a high standard. Got to the semis but never won it. His best mate Dave Ralph got to the final but lost to Jack king in the seventies if memory serves did. Back then snooker hadn’t quite become as big as it is now. i remember john Spencer and Dennis Taylor being at our house sharing a beer with my dad . Denis Taylor lived in blackburn then . Alex Higgins lived in church. Spencer was from bury .East Lancs was a hotbed of snooker back then.

[Beagle]

Going in off the black ALWAYS loses the frame unless there is exactly 7 difference in the scores.

As mentioned in the post above, the scores would then be tied following the in off and the black would be re-spotted.

Yeah so, going in off of the black doesn’t ALWAYS lose the frame. As I said in the post you’re quoting, it’d be a respotted black in the scenario we’re both replying to.

[Targetman]

Yeah so, going in off of the black doesn’t ALWAYS lose the frame. As I said in the post you’re quoting, it’d be a respotted black in the scenario we’re both replying to.

Your last sentence said..."Going in off the black doesn't lose you the game in snooker"...

That's what I was responding to.

[TheFamilyCat]

Going in off the black ALWAYS loses the frame unless there is exactly 7 difference in the scores.

As mentioned in the post above, the scores would then be tied following the in off and the black would be re-spotted.

Only in a black ball game.

[Targetman]

Only in a black ball game.

I think you will find thats what this discussion was about, a black ball game.

Have you read the posts above?

[jdrobbo]

Big admirer of Wilson and after Ronnie, I always want him to win. It’s there for him…just needs to grab it. It’s a golden chance.

[Bosscat]

What a session of snooker ... Jones won it 5-4 ... still 5 frames behind but what a final frame of snooker in that session tonight

[Dyched]

Undid all his hard work in that frame at the end

[Swizzlestick]

Better this evening. You feel that final frame was a bit of a killer for him. Looked a bit spent afterwards (though maybe that was just having to deal with Rob Walker) - you wonder how much he has left in the tank.

[Jakubclaret]

He did well pulling some back 10-7 would have looked a lot better than 11-6 for his night endeavours he did look abit jaded but it was mentioned he had a late night last night on media duties. A good nights sleep might work wonders he always the underdog anyway.

[Bosscat]

Jak Jones seems to be bouncing back then makes an error ... (not that Wilson doesn't keep missing or getting out of position).

But Wilson maintaining the 5 frame advantage at 15-10 going into tonights final session

[Tricky Trevor]

16-10 now. This means Jones has to win 8 of 9. It’s not happening.
Poor championship all round.

[Swizzlestick]

Looks like a disappointing end to a disappointing championship. Other than Higgins v Allen, no real stand out moments, weird scheduling, big names not turning up.

[jrgbfc]

Can't believe Jones missed that black to win the frame.