Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Darthlaw » Tue May 07, 2024 4:58 pm

A few more stats:

Unique defence combinations:
Trafford - 14
Muric - 3

Starting Defences changed (game to game)
Trafford - 17
Muric - 6

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by CnBtruntru » Tue May 07, 2024 5:00 pm

With the rest of the team, it would have made no difference at all, we would still be where we are.

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Darthlaw » Tue May 07, 2024 5:17 pm

For those suggesting we played inferior teams, the nearest patch of 10 games I can find for Trafford is Nov - December.

We played Palace, Arsenal, West Ham, Sheff U, Wolves, Brighton, Everton, Fulham Liverpool and Villa, so 3 top six teams conceding 16 goals and picking up 7 points.

Muric has played Brentford, Chelsea, Wolves, Everton, Brighton, Sheff U, Man U and Newcastle, so 1 top six conceding 12 goals and picked up 10 points.

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Enola Gay » Tue May 07, 2024 5:24 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 4:54 pm
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Keeper creating two chances in a game says it all.

We have absolutely missed the Muric-Tella combo. No doubt about it.
It arguably says more that JBG made more chances than anyone else despite only playing a third of the game.

Defensive/goalkeeping errors are always damaging but not necessarily fatal; what's really holed this season below the waterline is the lack of quality going forward, despite all the attacking additions made since last summer.

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Darthlaw » Tue May 07, 2024 5:30 pm

Finally for the stattos:

In Traffords 10 Game streak, we scored 12 goals.
In Muric's 8, we've scored 11.

In Summary not that much to say changing the GK would have revolutionised our outcome.

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by daveisaclaret » Tue May 07, 2024 6:06 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 3:04 pm
Did we opt not to sign Nathan Tella?
Yep

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by CoolClaret » Tue May 07, 2024 7:02 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 5:24 pm
It arguably says more that JBG made more chances than anyone else despite only playing a third of the game.

Defensive/goalkeeping errors are always damaging but not necessarily fatal; what's really holed this season below the waterline is the lack of quality going forward, despite all the attacking additions made since last summer.
Any one off game stat isn't going to paint a full picture like - my point with it was for a keeper to create two chance (one key chance) in a game is quite remarkable; you won't find many doing that, which is why he is such an incredible player.

As for JBG - he should have played many more minutes than he has done this season, imo.

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by boatshed bill » Tue May 07, 2024 7:14 pm

What needed keeping was clean sheets!

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Spijed » Tue May 07, 2024 7:33 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 10:27 pm
A big difference, we haven't got a finisher, Trafford set the bar low and my goodness did it it set the standard.
I think below half way,perhaps another 10-15 points.
So low that even a limbo dancer would have struggled! ;)

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Spijed » Tue May 07, 2024 7:38 pm

Enola Gay wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 5:24 pm
It arguably says more that JBG made more chances than anyone else despite only playing a third of the game.

Defensive/goalkeeping errors are always damaging but not necessarily fatal; what's really holed this season below the waterline is the lack of quality going forward, despite all the attacking additions made since last summer.
We seemed to have created fewer chances than we have wingers in our squad.

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Carlos the Great » Tue May 07, 2024 7:42 pm

ChrisG wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 9:08 am
I watched Tella play in the flesh on Sunday. He looks to have come on leaps and bounds for Leverkusen. He was absolutely tormenting the left hand side of Eintracht.

Beat the full back on a number of occasions and got a dangerous ball in. Was really unlucky not to score too.

Leverkusen for me are the best team in Europe at the minute, what a move that's been for him.
And some people keep on saying he wouldn’t have been able make the step up to the premier league .. but we gambled 19 m on Trafford who hadn’t even played in the championship
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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue May 07, 2024 9:53 pm

The red herring is the trafford/muric debate that's a few points murics way but tella that's a few points in addition. You start with muric & sign tella you make the difference. We did neither. Both opportunities were missed. Factor in forests points deduction in my opinion they'd be needing a win against Chelsea & we would be travelling up to north London more relaxed but keeping a watchful eye elsewhere.

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by Jakubclaret » Tue May 07, 2024 9:57 pm

Should say down.

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Re: Would keeping Tella and Muric playing all season.....................

Post by claret54 » Tue May 07, 2024 10:25 pm

Clive 1960 wrote:
Tue May 07, 2024 7:50 am
Tella not to sure , yes he was great last season and he knows where the net is but we will never know if he could produce in this team . .
Well Tella has produced for the best team in the Bundesliga at a similar level to last season in the championship.
5 goals and 3 assists in 730 mins for Leverkusen.
17 goals and 5 assists in 2500 mins for Burnley in the championship.
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