Luke McNally

[burnley007]

I'd forgotten about this lad.
Will he stay or be sold?

Could see him playing some games if we do sell Beyer.

Highly thought of at Championship level.

[RVclaret]

Spoke to a few Stoke fans who haven’t rated him at all. Not sure what’s led to your view of being highly thought of? Did well at Coventry but I’d imagine we'll try and get money back here.

[Goliath]

Another loan possibly?

[jrgbfc]

We definitely need to move on 2 or 3 of our centre backs. O Shea, Esteve, Beyer, Ekdal, Al Dakhil, Delcroix and McNally. Have i forgotten anyone?

[Holtyclaret]

Even if Beyer (which I wouldn’t expect) left he’d still be about 5/6/7th choice, there’s a lot of players similar that should be moved on in the summer.

[Carlos the Great]

We definitely need to move on 2 or 3 of our centre backs. O Shea, Esteve, Beyer, Ekdal, Al Dakhil, Delcroix and McNally. Have i forgotten anyone?

You’ve mistakenly put O Shea on the move on list when he has turned into a star performer .: he has been vastly improved who we might be lucky to keep hold of

[daveisaclaret]

There is a small wondering in my mind if the two very earliest signings that summer Twine and McNally were the last flickers of ALK identifying targets before VK took full control in that regard. They don't really look in keeping with what happened after imo.

[warksclaret]

I have a Stoke friend too who says he is fine and for the season rated him a 7 out of 10. Suspect he is comparable to Bobby Thomas of Coventry. I think O Shea, Esteve (as he develops), Beyer (if we keep him), and Ekdal are all better than him. We have a number of fringe players like Obefemi, Twine, McNally, Weghorst, Churlinov that we desperately need to cash in on, and not just keep loaning out

[burnley007]

I think this summer should be a real trimming of the bloated squad.
Create a tighter squad.

[forzagranata]

There is a small wondering in my mind if the two very earliest signings that summer Twine and McNally were the last flickers of ALK identifying targets before VK took full control in that regard. They don't really look in keeping with what happened after imo.

I’ve thought this for a while.

Neither really fit the Mud Analaytics/VK profile.

[123EasyasBFC]

There is a small wondering in my mind if the two very earliest signings that summer Twine and McNally were the last flickers of ALK identifying targets before VK took full control in that regard. They don't really look in keeping with what happened after imo.

Those two signings are the only once that you could have imagined dyche signing.

Tbf I think a host of clubs wanted twine going off his season at MK Dons

[Swizzlestick]

Those two signings are the only once that you could have imagined dyche signing.

Tbf I think a host of clubs wanted twine going off his season at MK Dons

Dyche wouldn't have gone near Twine.

[123EasyasBFC]

Dyche wouldn't have gone near Twine.

From what you know now maybe but best player in league one I think had dyche still been manager going down to championship he would of been all over twine

[bumba]

Can't see how McNally gets anywhere near the starting 11 next season, I'd look to get as much money back as possible.
Sounds like Beyer has said he wants to go so I'd be looking at keeping O'Shea and Esteve as first choice with Al Dakhil and Delcroix(3rd choice left back option), Ekdal nearly left in January so either we wanted rid or he wanted out so try and move him on

[quoonbeatz]

Dyche would absolutely not have had any interest in Twine. Not his kind of player at all.

[ClaretOfMancunia]

Sounds like Beyer has said he wants to go n

Where has he said this?

[zippybid]

Where has he said this?

He must think that, "Refocus and go again. UTC" means he wants to leave.

[warksclaret]

I think Ekdal is a very intelligent CH. Maybe too slow for the PL but I think Oshea, Esteve and him form the main three centre halves for next year. Of the three he is the most comfortable in possession, and good carrying the ball. If we lose Beyer we need that quality. The pairing of Beyer & Howard Belliss were brilliant in the Championship, and good distributors of the ball, starting many attacks.Be interesting to see what happens with Howard Bellis if Saints don't go up, as I believe the obligation to buy him applies only if they get promoted

[JR1882]

We are defo going to be overstocked.

Al-dakhil was a rising star last season but this one was a bridge to far, he comes back into the fold for me.

Ekdal is class in the champ.

Esteve looks like he’s here to stay so he starts

O’Shea plays somewhere again he will be a class above at that level.

Beyer - question marks, big fee which we won’t have anywhere near paid up, so I’d imagine moving him along is on the agenda.

Delacroix - not sure we know where he is best just yet, but as with all the above he is probs ahead of McNally in the pecking order.

McNally - hopefully sell for 4-5m. Not many of these unused squad players are going to fetch a profit but he is one who could.

[warksclaret]

We are defo going to be overstocked.

Al-dakhil was a rising star last season but this one was a bridge to far, he comes back into the fold for me.

Ekdal is class in the champ.

Esteve looks like he’s here to stay so he starts

O’Shea plays somewhere again he will be a class above at that level.

Beyer - question marks, big fee which we won’t have anywhere near paid up, so I’d imagine moving him along is on the agenda.

Delacroix - not sure we know where he is best just yet, but as with all the above he is probs ahead of McNally in the pecking order.

McNally - hopefully sell for 4-5m. Not many of these unused squad players are going to fetch a profit but he is one who could.

It would be lovely to get £4-£5m for McNally. However the fees we got for Dunne to QPR, and Thomas to Coventry are more the benchmark. I would guess in the £1m-£2m mark

[ClaretTony]

From what you know now maybe but best player in league one I think had dyche still been manager going down to championship he would of been all over twine

Never in this world would Dyche have signed Twine

[CoolClaret]

I have a Stoke friend too who says he is fine and for the season rated him a 7 out of 10. Suspect he is comparable to Bobby Thomas of Coventry. I think O Shea, Esteve (as he develops), Beyer (if we keep him), and Ekdal are all better than him. We have a number of fringe players like Obefemi, Twine, McNally, Weghorst, Churlinov that we desperately need to cash in on, and not just keep loaning out

Absolutely this - pivotal that these get moved on this Summer so that we can properly reload.

[Quickenthetempo]

It would be lovely to get £4-£5m for McNally. However the fees we got for Dunne to QPR, and Thomas to Coventry are more the benchmark. I would guess in the £1m-£2m mark

You think we will sell at a big loss?

[colne-claret]

We definitely need to move on 2 or 3 of our centre backs. O Shea, Esteve, Beyer, Ekdal, Al Dakhil, Delcroix and McNally. Have i forgotten anyone?

Rekon O’Shea, Esteve, Al Dakhil & Delcroix remain and we probably sign one new.

[boatshed bill]

Ekdal seemed to be very driven and ambitious when he signed.
I don't think another Championship campaign would suit him.

[elwaclaret]

I have a Stoke friend too who says he is fine and for the season rated him a 7 out of 10. Suspect he is comparable to Bobby Thomas of Coventry. I think O Shea, Esteve (as he develops), Beyer (if we keep him), and Ekdal are all better than him. We have a number of fringe players like Obefemi, Twine, McNally, Weghorst, Churlinov that we desperately need to cash in on, and not just keep loaning out

I understand your working out… but if we are getting a loan fees and wages paid, I can understand the club only offloading them as their contracts start to run out.

[123EasyasBFC]

Never in this world would Dyche have signed Twine

Why not in both dyche promotions he had 2 up front, one big man and one little man, twine coming off 20 goals in league one, 100% if dyche had of still been manager he would have been in for twine to play alongside Barnes

[ClaretTony]

Why not in both dyche promotions he had 2 up front, one big man and one little man, twine coming off 20 goals in league one, 100% if dyche had of still been manager he would have been in for twine to play alongside Barnes

I’d have been amazed

[NewClaret]

I’d have been amazed

Me too.

I think Dyche signing Beto and Chermiti at Everton is a good reflection of the type of players he’d have signed given some money to spend.

[Quickenthetempo]

Me too.

I think Dyche signing Beto and Chermiti at Everton is a good reflection of the type of players he’d have signed given some money to spend.

Everton have a DoF who signs players.

Dyche has hardly played Danjuma, Beto and Chemeti. Same as any player he didn't want.

[123EasyasBFC]

Me too.

I think Dyche signing Beto and Chermiti at Everton is a good reflection of the type of players he’d have signed given some money to spend.

There’s no way dyche wanted them two players hahaha

[NewClaret]

Everton have a DoF who signs players.

Dyche has hardly played Danjuma, Beto and Chemeti. Same as any player he didn't want.

Heard a few interviews with Dyche on him & he makes it sound a lot like they work very closely together. I think he’s given Beto decent chances.

I definitely think he’s more of a Dyche signing than Twine anyway.

[Quickenthetempo]

Heard a few interviews with Dyche on him & he makes it sound a lot like they work very closely together. I think he’s given Beto decent chances.

I definitely think he’s more of a Dyche signing than Twine anyway.

He's had to give Beto a few games with DCL injuries, suspension and form.

[CoolClaret]

Dyche has veto on any signings that the DoF puts forward - a setup that is becoming pretty standard.

Beto/Chermiti were both signed/identified as players that Dyche could use as forwards.

[123EasyasBFC]

Had dyche been in charge of Everton summer 2022 do we think he would have signed McNeil for Everton? He’s been one of Everton’s best performers since dyche came in

[Chester Perry]

Had dyche been in charge of Everton summer 2022 do we think he would have signed McNeil for Everton? He’s been one of Everton’s best performers since dyche came in

He would have signed Tarkowski and Mee first

[ClaretTony]

Had dyche been in charge of Everton summer 2022 do we think he would have signed McNeil for Everton? He’s been one of Everton’s best performers since dyche came in

Yes he would or he would have definitely tried to

[123EasyasBFC]

He would have signed Tarkowski and Mee first

Oh yeah no brainer they would of been first two signings

[123EasyasBFC]

Yes he would or he would have definitely tried to

I think he would of tried to get barnes to

[SirBob]

Crazy that Dyche went on to sign Ashley Young for Everton after being heavily linked with us for 2 seasons, just shows how a managers mind works when he wants a player.

[Vegas Claret]

I think if we can get our money back on him he will be sold, he impressed at Bournemouth in the cup game but I just don't see him getting any game time in front of the other lads we have.

[Dark Cloud]

I think we'll get serious suitors for O'Shea from lower half PL clubs and we might not be able to turn the money on offer down. If he does stay he'll be excellent in the Championship and I'd suggest barring injuries or suspension would be an ever present in the backbone of the team. Like most, I really wasn't rating him too highly earlier this season, but he's come on massively.

[NewClaret]

I think we'll get serious suitors for O'Shea from lower half PL clubs and we might not be able to turn the money on offer down. If he does stay he'll be excellent in the Championship and I'd suggest barring injuries or suspension would be an ever present in the backbone of the team. Like most, I really wasn't rating him too highly earlier this season, but he's come on massively.

I agree on all counts.

Really hope we don’t sell him!

[Quickenthetempo]

I think if we can get our money back on him he will be sold, he impressed at Bournemouth in the cup game but I just don't see him getting any game time in front of the other lads we have.

If we don't make enough to cover transfer fee plus agent costs and wages, then the business model is not working.

You lose out on older players, you need to make profit on the younger ones.

[NickBFC]

If Oxford go up I wouldn't be surprised to see him end up back there.

[ecc]

I sincerely hope O'Shea stays. The lad is still far from the finished article but he showed he had the balls to fight back in the face of a constant storm. He's got some of the Ben Mee fight in him and he could return to the PL a much better player after a successful next season. No doubt about his commitment.

[warksclaret]

I sincerely hope O'Shea stays. The lad is still far from the finished article but he showed he had the balls to fight back in the face of a constant storm. He's got some of the Ben Mee fight in him and he could return to the PL a much better player after a successful next season. No doubt about his commitment.

Imagine what he would be like had he played alongside Tarks for a season-just look at Braithwait's development.Also like the fact O Shea is quite a toughie yet never seems to be injured.I would make either Berge (hopefully he stays) or O Shea as captain next season

[ecc]

Imagine what he would be like had he played alongside Tarks for a season-just look at Braithwait's development.Also like the fact O Shea is quite a toughie yet never seems to be injured.I would make either Berge (hopefully he stays) or O Shea as captain next season

Indeed. Of course, Dara's not a kid. He's 25. But the lad had so many different CB partners in the first half of the season it was very difficult for him to step up. True about his lack of injuries. Have to hope that will continue.

[Goliath]

I think he would of tried to get barnes to

I doubt that. He could have done in summer when he basically only had DCl signed on and wisely chose not to.
I think he was well aware that he was already way past his peak.

[123EasyasBFC]

I doubt that. He could have done in summer when he basically only had DCl signed on and wisely chose not to.
I think he was well aware that he was already way past his peak.

We are talking summer 2022 not 2023