Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
-
- Posts: 1101
- Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:57 pm
- Been Liked: 246 times
- Has Liked: 134 times
Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
After so many recent seasons in the top flight are we now one of the big boys in the Championship ?
-
- Posts: 11136
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 9:38 am
- Been Liked: 5231 times
- Has Liked: 823 times
- Location: On top of a pink elephant riding to the Democratic Republic of Congo
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
We'd have to go down another division to be considered one of the "big boys".
-
- Posts: 13046
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:29 pm
- Been Liked: 1920 times
- Has Liked: 383 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Given the value of our squad.
Yes 100%
Yes 100%
-
- Posts: 4315
- Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:00 pm
- Been Liked: 1387 times
- Has Liked: 509 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
We’ve lost 13 of our last 141 games at Championship level. I would suggest that record is probably as good as anyone’s so we are probably the strongest Championship level team of recent years.
-
- Posts: 1101
- Joined: Fri Mar 31, 2023 7:57 pm
- Been Liked: 246 times
- Has Liked: 134 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
That’s some stat.Hibsclaret wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 8:09 pmWe’ve lost 13 of our last 141 games at Championship level. I would suggest that record is probably as good as anyone’s so we are probably the strongest Championship level team of recent years.
-
- Posts: 423
- Joined: Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:38 pm
- Been Liked: 145 times
- Has Liked: 94 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Is that the best championship squads stat of all time? Must be up there!Hibsclaret wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 8:09 pmWe’ve lost 13 of our last 141 games at Championship level. I would suggest that record is probably as good as anyone’s so we are probably the strongest Championship level team of recent years.
-
- Posts: 3434
- Joined: Sat Jan 02, 2016 11:33 pm
- Been Liked: 936 times
- Has Liked: 1794 times
- Location: Lincoln
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
We will have a good idea after the first dozen games next season.
-
- Posts: 4315
- Joined: Tue Jul 25, 2017 4:00 pm
- Been Liked: 1387 times
- Has Liked: 509 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
When you consider Norwich finished 6th this season losing 15 games our record is incredible having lost less games in over 3 seasons. Norwich have been considered one of the top championship clubs of recent seasons.
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Possibly - current Transfermarkt value of squad including loan players is £256m excluding those out on loan
Leeds £205m and Southampton £189m are nearest if not promoted third. Hull next highest are on £109m.
Relegated Sheffield are £144m and Luton £125m - with Forest £370m
Leeds £205m and Southampton £189m are nearest if not promoted third. Hull next highest are on £109m.
Relegated Sheffield are £144m and Luton £125m - with Forest £370m
-
- Posts: 535
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:29 am
- Been Liked: 55 times
- Has Liked: 30 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Yes we are, but Luton will be strong as well and at least one of Leeds and Southampton (possibly both) will also be up there
-
- Posts: 6513
- Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:09 pm
- Been Liked: 1248 times
- Has Liked: 293 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
You’d imagine whichever one of Leeds or Southampton stays in championship will have to cash in on a couple of players, with the reduced parachute payments.Noblelight wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 8:41 pmYes we are, but Luton will be strong as well and at least one of Leeds and Southampton (possibly both) will also be up there
When you look at Leeds really there’s only Archie Gray and Summerville who anyone might think about paying good money for.
Then Southampton have a big squad full of championship quality players, not sure on them, they probably only have Walker-peters who would generate a good fee for
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
We are what we always have been - about Barnsley level, or slightly above. And I'm proud of it.
-
- Posts: 535
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:29 am
- Been Liked: 55 times
- Has Liked: 30 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Very good points123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:23 pmYou’d imagine whichever one of Leeds or Southampton stays in championship will have to cash in on a couple of players, with the reduced parachute payments.
When you look at Leeds really there’s only Archie Gray and Summerville who anyone might think about paying good money for.
Then Southampton have a big squad full of championship quality players, not sure on them, they probably only have Walker-peters who would generate a good fee for
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
They have a few more than that. Gnonto, Rutter, Meslier and Ampadu come to mind.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:23 pmWhen you look at Leeds really there’s only Archie Gray and Summerville who anyone might think about paying good money for.
-
- Posts: 6513
- Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:09 pm
- Been Liked: 1248 times
- Has Liked: 293 times
-
- Posts: 535
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 9:29 am
- Been Liked: 55 times
- Has Liked: 30 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Yes, I’m very proud too. But we have a big advantage over many other teams in the Championship. parachute payments. That doesn’t mean automatic promotion back, but it gives us a very good chance. UTC!
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Depends what you class as 'good money'. Pretty sure they would generate enough to invest well for Championship level.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:33 pmI’m not sure those 4 would generate the sort of fees gray and Summerville would, rutter cost 30m
-
- Posts: 6513
- Joined: Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:09 pm
- Been Liked: 1248 times
- Has Liked: 293 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
I was more suggesting that by selling gray and Summerville for good money they then wouldn’t have to sell more of their better players.
If you look at Leicester and Southampton this season, Leicester sold barnes to Newcastle and Maddison to spurs which pretty much meant they didn’t have to sell anyone else.
Southampton sold Lavia for absolutely crazy money to Chelsea and then sold ward-prowse to West Ham, which again meant they were able to keep players without worrying financially for 12 months
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
If we played Berge on his own, we'd finish mid-table in the Championship.
-
- Posts: 2402
- Joined: Sat May 26, 2018 7:16 pm
- Been Liked: 740 times
- Has Liked: 1923 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Given that Burnley are the biggest team in the world, how could we be anything other?
-
- Posts: 6501
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 8:05 pm
- Been Liked: 2706 times
- Has Liked: 1592 times
- Location: Costa del Padihamos beach.
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Next season we are, and possibly the season after that. If we failed to get back up in the first two seasons, our relevance is diminished and we sink to a mid table side who may make the play offs. After that, we become a Blackburn or a Preston. That’s why we cannot stay there too long.
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Add Watford and Sunderland to that. At worst Huddersfield.
-
- Posts: 8507
- Joined: Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:25 pm
- Been Liked: 1843 times
- Has Liked: 2186 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Stoke will be a team to watch but as we will be top its irrelevant whose below us
Personally, I don't think Luton or Sheffield United will be anywhere near the top 6
Personally, I don't think Luton or Sheffield United will be anywhere near the top 6
-
- Posts: 1210
- Joined: Sun Jan 24, 2016 7:55 pm
- Been Liked: 390 times
- Has Liked: 1317 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
..potential back to bite-you-on-the-bum post…Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 3:52 pmStoke will be a team to watch but as we will be top its irrelevant whose below us
Personally, I don't think Luton or Sheffield United will be anywhere near the top 6
-
- Posts: 3060
- Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:37 am
- Been Liked: 1091 times
- Has Liked: 554 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
That’s unlikely for this summer I’d suggest. Leeds, for example, in the last full financial year prior to the Covid year, which was in the Championship without Parachute Payments, had a turnover of £49m. Demand is probably higher now.123EasyasBFC wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:23 pmYou’d imagine whichever one of Leeds or Southampton stays in championship will have to cash in on a couple of players, with the reduced parachute payments.
As a comparison, without Parachute Payments in 2022/23 we’d have had around £25-26m. A chunk of that was because of the season we had too.
Parachutes are around £43.5m in year one, then £35.5m in year two, so an £8m drop for Leeds probably won’t be enough to force a massive squad overhaul for this coming season. I’m not sure about the Saints?
-
- Posts: 1711
- Joined: Tue Jan 10, 2023 12:16 pm
- Been Liked: 440 times
- Has Liked: 610 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Possibly. Although fans in the championship won’t see it it like this
-
- Posts: 8519
- Joined: Sat Jan 23, 2016 7:13 pm
- Been Liked: 2262 times
- Has Liked: 1242 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Alphabetically we should be up there
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Depends how you define it. Plenty of city clubs with bigger support than us at that level.
This user liked this post: Quicknick
-
- Posts: 6587
- Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2016 6:39 pm
- Been Liked: 1929 times
- Has Liked: 2869 times
- Location: Rawtenstall
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
Based on Stoke's dalliance with relegation this season?Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 3:52 pmStoke will be a team to watch but as we will be top its irrelevant whose below us
-
- Posts: 1730
- Joined: Thu Feb 25, 2016 11:51 am
- Been Liked: 291 times
- Has Liked: 600 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
I read an article today stating that you can't receive a further parachute payment if you have been relegated and already received the parachute payment in the last 4 years. Not sure exactly how that works in a relegation promotion relegation scenario.Claretforever wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 5:25 pmThat’s unlikely for this summer I’d suggest. Leeds, for example, in the last full financial year prior to the Covid year, which was in the Championship without Parachute Payments, had a turnover of £49m. Demand is probably higher now.
As a comparison, without Parachute Payments in 2022/23 we’d have had around £25-26m. A chunk of that was because of the season we had too.
Parachutes are around £43.5m in year one, then £35.5m in year two, so an £8m drop for Leeds probably won’t be enough to force a massive squad overhaul for this coming season. I’m not sure about the Saints?
-
- Posts: 20415
- Joined: Thu Jan 21, 2016 7:07 pm
- Been Liked: 4516 times
- Has Liked: 2032 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
I reckon Luton will be right up there.Woodleyclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 3:52 pmStoke will be a team to watch but as we will be top its irrelevant whose below us
Personally, I don't think Luton or Sheffield United will be anywhere near the top 6
-
- Posts: 3060
- Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2016 12:37 am
- Been Liked: 1091 times
- Has Liked: 554 times
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
What does that mean? Is that a suggestion by the media or EFL for the future or something?alwaysaclaret wrote: ↑Tue May 14, 2024 6:26 pmI read an article today stating that you can't receive a further parachute payment if you have been relegated and already received the parachute payment in the last 4 years. Not sure exactly how that works in a relegation promotion relegation scenario.
Currently, if you get promoted and then relegated in that first season you are entitled to two parachute payment seasons.
If you get promoted and stay up for at least one season, but are then relegated you are entitled to 3 parachute payments.
Without trying to be 100% accurate they’re roughly £43.5m, £35.5m and then £17m.
Even in you’re promoted in that first season after relegation you get the first season parachute payment, but you do not receive subsequent payments. Same in year two, that if you’re entitled to three payments (at least two seasons in the Premier League before dropping) you would get seasons one and seasons two payments but would not receive season 3.
Unused parachute payments go back into the central Premier League pot.
Re: Are we now one of the biggest teams in the Championship ?
We might not be the biggest team in the championship but our recent record proves we are one of the very best. The “experts” said that Leicester City would be a better team than US this season but with 11 defeats i don’t think anymore needs to be said about that, lets just hope we can live up to our own high standards next season. UTC.