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Poulton-le-Claret
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by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed May 15, 2024 9:12 pm
He is hosting a forum with their fans tonight and has been brutally honest by all accounts. A few of the bits I have picked up:
- Sacked Rosenior as he felt he wasn't using their full attacking potential that he wanted to see.
- He has put a £10m bid in for Delap.
- Basically said their GK (Allsop) hasn't been good enough.
- Called Aaron Connolly a wimp.
- Compared Harry Vaughan to George Best.
I reckon we could use more openness from our Chairman, not sure about a public rant though

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by NewClaret » Wed May 15, 2024 9:18 pm
Poulton-le-Claret wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:12 pm
He is hosting a forum with their fans tonight and has been brutally honest by all accounts. A few of the bits I have picked up:
- Sacked Rosenior as he felt he wasn't using their full attacking potential that he wanted to see.
- He has put a £10m bid in for Delap.
- Basically said their GK (Allsop) hasn't been good enough.
- Called Aaron Connolly a wimp.
- Compared Harry Vaughan to George Best.
I reckon we could use more openness from our Chairman, not sure about a public rant though
£10m for Delap is a lot!

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by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed May 15, 2024 9:21 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:18 pm
£10m for Delap is a lot!
My Hull City supporting mate said he will be very happy if they can get him on a permanent deal, but I agree with you, £10m feels very steep!
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by RVclaret » Wed May 15, 2024 9:21 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:18 pm
£10m for Delap is a lot!
Is it? Been excellent for them this season. Only 21.
Having said that it’s a lot for a team without any parachute payments for sure!
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by Nonayforever » Wed May 15, 2024 9:57 pm
What's the point in employing a manager when the chairman is clearly much better !
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by Vegas Claret » Wed May 15, 2024 10:00 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:21 pm
Is it? Been excellent for them this season. Only 21.
Having said that it’s a lot for a team without any parachute payments for sure!
8 goals in 31 appearances is worth 10 million ? madness
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by bfcjg » Wed May 15, 2024 10:05 pm
Is he also a p1ss head ?
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by jdrobbo » Wed May 15, 2024 10:10 pm
I’m not a fan of Allsop
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by TheFamilyCat » Wed May 15, 2024 10:14 pm
Didn't someone on here say we should sign Hull's keeper?
Could probably get him cheap now.
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by aggi » Wed May 15, 2024 10:55 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:21 pm
Is it? Been excellent for them this season. Only 21.
Having said that it’s a lot for a team without any parachute payments for sure!
I've been to a few Hull games this season and Delap has looked OK but I wouldn't have said excellent, particularly in comparison to some of their other players. He is obviously only young though.
It looks like it is Man City who are getting the premium for their players now. Man Utd had it for years ad then Liverpool more recently.
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by Swizzlestick » Thu May 16, 2024 12:33 am
Red flags should be going up and klaxons sounding if your owner/chairman starts talking like this.
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by Funkydrummer » Thu May 16, 2024 1:09 am
TheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 10:14 pm
Didn't someone on here say we should sign Hull's keeper?
Could probably get him cheap now.
In the words of Sybil Fawlty, speaking about the builder, O'reilly
"The reason he's cheap, is he's no bloody good"
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by AlargeClaret » Thu May 16, 2024 6:56 am
The crazy Turk at it again ! Imagine if your chairman showed he knew literally nothing about football and then decided to almost pick the team !
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by Foshiznik » Thu May 16, 2024 9:02 am
AlargeClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 6:56 am
The crazy Turk at it again ! Imagine if your chairman showed he knew literally nothing about football and then decided to almost pick the team !
What else has he done over than sack Rosenior that would make him 'crazy'? I thought until this decision he had had a fairly ordinary spell as owner (especially compared to Allam), although i don't know much about him.
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by Clovius Boofus » Thu May 16, 2024 9:07 am
Swizzlestick wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 12:33 am
Red flags should be going up and klaxons sounding if your owner/chairman starts talking like this.
I agree. It never ends well.
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by Bordeauxclaret » Thu May 16, 2024 9:52 am
Foshiznik wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 9:02 am
What else has he done over than sack Rosenior that would make him 'crazy'? I thought until this decision he had had a fairly ordinary spell as owner (especially compared to Allam), although i don't know much about him.
Wasn’t he after changing their name a while ago?
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by aggi » Thu May 16, 2024 10:23 am
Bordeauxclaret wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 9:52 am
Wasn’t he after changing their name a while ago?
That was the previous owner, Allam. He wanted to rename them Hull City Tigers.
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by elwaclaret » Thu May 16, 2024 12:48 pm
Great message to send to managerial candidates, “Yes men only need apply”
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by dougcollins » Thu May 16, 2024 7:36 pm
That's a joke what he said about Rosenior.
He thinks they're West Ham.
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by NewClaret » Thu May 16, 2024 9:33 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:21 pm
Is it? Been excellent for them this season. Only 21.
Having said that it’s a lot for a team without any parachute payments for sure!
8 in 31 though this year and 4 in 37 last season with Stoke/Preston. A record of 12 in 68 isn’t prolific and if we were spending it I’d be thinking it was a big risk.
(Not to say he won’t go on to be a very good player)
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by RVclaret » Thu May 16, 2024 9:41 pm
NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 9:33 pm
8 in 31 though this year and 4 in 37 last season with Stoke/Preston. A record of 12 in 68 isn’t prolific and if we were spending it I’d be thinking it was a big risk.
(Not to say he won’t go on to be a very good player)
Not just aimed at you as someone else mentioned it too and it’s common discourse, but I find using x number of goals in y number of appearances a really poor way of recognising a players worth/judging someone. It leaves so many questions
How many sub appearances? What were the goals per 90? What else does he bring to the team? What position was he playing? How does his goals scored compare with expected goals scored? What’s his actual profile and does it suit a higher level? What other core attributes does he have? Accurate with shots? Any assists? Expected assists? What’s his potential? Does he suit the team and club?
FWIW I’ve seen him play several times this season and he’s played off the right quite frequently, Hull missed his powerful running and athleticism massively when he was out. He has come on leaps and bounds since men’s football season 1 (first two loans). I’d hope we are in for him with a loan with option to buy if promoted but it sounds like PL clubs are in now.
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by ŽižkovClaret » Fri May 17, 2024 7:40 am
NewClaret wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:18 pm
£10m for Delap is a lot!
Better or worse deal than 17m for Trafford?

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by ŽižkovClaret » Fri May 17, 2024 7:41 am
RVclaret wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2024 9:41 pm
Not just aimed at you as someone else mentioned it too and it’s common discourse, but I find using x number of goals in y number of appearances a really poor way of recognising a players worth/judging someone. It leaves so many questions
How many sub appearances? What were the goals per 90? What else does he bring to the team? What position was he playing? How does his goals scored compare with expected goals scored? What’s his actual profile and does it suit a higher level? What other core attributes does he have? Accurate with shots? Any assists? Expected assists? What’s his potential? Does he suit the team and club?
FWIW I’ve seen him play several times this season and he’s played off the right quite frequently, Hull missed his powerful running and athleticism massively when he was out. He has come on leaps and bounds since men’s football season 1 (first two loans). I’d hope we are in for him with a loan with option to buy if promoted but it sounds like PL clubs are in now.
Kane was pretty shite in terms of goalscoring return in his early loans......
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by Foshiznik » Fri May 17, 2024 8:35 am
ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:40 am
Better or worse deal than 17m for Trafford?
Yeah, because limited sources suggest we splurged on one player means we should risk overpaying on everyone as it's not as bad. Weird logic imo.
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by ŽižkovClaret » Fri May 17, 2024 8:38 am
Foshiznik wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 8:35 am
Yeah, because limited sources suggest we splurged on one player means we should risk overpaying on everyone as it's not as bad. Weird logic imo.
Where did i suggest we would be interested in signing Delap?
It was merely an observation on the apparent market value for Man City youngsters
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by distortiondave » Fri May 17, 2024 9:40 am
Wolves signed Tommy Doyle from Man City for only £4m a couple of weeks ago.
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by NewClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 9:37 pm
ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 7:40 am
Better or worse deal than 17m for Trafford?
Well I think it was £14m rising to £19m if he wins the ballon d’or, etc
Taking the reported ‘guaranteed’ number I think it was pretty cheap for a full England squad member and whether it’s this summer or in future, we’ll make a very good return.
Not so sure on Delap, although tbf in-form strikers do tend to go for the most £.
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by ŽižkovClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 9:38 am
distortiondave wrote: ↑Fri May 17, 2024 9:40 am
Wolves signed Tommy Doyle from Man City for only £4m a couple of weeks ago.
Think, very smartly, they had a pre-agreed fee in the loan contract. Something we frankly f**ked up by not having.
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by TsarBomba » Wed May 22, 2024 9:47 am
ŽižkovClaret wrote: ↑Wed May 22, 2024 9:38 am
Think, very smartly, they had a pre-agreed fee in the loan contract. Something we frankly f**ked up by not having.
But they also got Doyle for such a low fee because it was part of the Nunes deal, I believe.
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by pureclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 2:05 pm
RVclaret wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2024 9:21 pm
Is it? Been excellent for them this season. Only 21.
Having said that it’s a lot for a team without any parachute payments for sure!
I thought you meant the Chairman's only 21 and enjoys parachuting, really must got to spec savers im 6 months late with appointment