Burnley v Forest Thread

[JimmyRobbo]

Doubt SD would put up with the indifference we areshowing

Have you wiped his final season from memory?

When yuo get beaten quite regularly you lose the cutting edge and determination. We've lost it this season. We lost it in SD's ;ast season, too.

[Woody9229]

18 goals scored at home (5 v Sheff Utd) 43 conceded 10 points in total 6 of those against teams who had a player sent off. Lost 1st 7 home games a new record amongst top flight clubs Grim stats at home.

[boyyanno]

Never said I’d match him you cabbage,said I would’ve scored his two goals today.

Weird that you're sat at home in your jockeys then instead of starting for a Premier league team.

[spt_claret]

I don't think it's ever going to be a feature of Kompanys play. To some extent it seems he's keen to get rid of any of the players that still embody any blood and guts spirit.

I think it may be Howe syndrome as others have suggested. He's a young manager and he's actually played against some of the older lads. By all accounts, both from Anderlecht and the likes of Micah Richards discussing his personality as City captain, he's a very demanding, at times selfish "my way or bust" type. That can be challenging if you're not much older than the players, so having a younger more malleable team suits him.

I read somewhere earlier this week that Kompany puts a huge emphasis on training ground performance when picking his sides - which partly explains the chopping and changing. If you have a "bad" week of training, you get replaced.

From Cork's leaving interview I'm not sure how true this claim is.

[Robbie_painter]

Weird that you're sat at home in your jockeys then instead of starting for a Premier league team.

Fck me what don’t you get?they was tap ins created by wingers better than we’ve got.Its not fcking rocket science.

[JimmyRobbo]

And the same Luton taking 4 points off Everton, who beat us 3 times this year. We could go on, but Luton look like finishing above us, showing how we have progressed

Yes. Also the same team we took 4 points off and it should have been 6. Shows how they progressed. Not really the team to show us anything, really.

[RVclaret]

Look we struggled breaking down low block teams last season and Benson/Maatsen/Tella got us out of several holes with outstanding finishing, albeit against Rotherham et al and not £300m Forest. To play this style you need more creativity. Last season we outperformed expected goals by an incredibly unsustainable amount. I agree with boyyanno that I’d like to see Kompany develop his style and create better chances with it. Our xG this season has been nowhere near enough which means we aren’t creating enough good chances.

[Vegas Claret]

Yes I think you’re right. That first half I was sitting there going there just a not a likeable bunch at all

It's not that I dislike them, I'm just meh about most and I don't think I've ever felt that about any Burnley side

[boyyanno]

I think it may be Howe syndrome as others have suggested. He's a young manager and he's actually played against some of the older lads. By all accounts, both from Anderlecht and the likes of Micah Richards discussing his personality as City captain, he's a very demanding, at times selfish "my way or bust" type. That can be challenging if you're not much older than the players, so having a younger more malleable team suits him.



From Cork's leaving interview I'm not sure how true this claim is.

That's a good point and I think there was some mention of it on MTB, I seem to recall he said he had a preference for younger players or somthing similar.

I also put it down to the type of football he wants to play, I personally think the technical players that also have the blood and thunder are elite level and probably way out of our reach.

[hetheclaret]

I think it may be Howe syndrome as others have suggested. He's a young manager and he's actually played against some of the older lads. By all accounts, both from Anderlecht and the likes of Micah Richards discussing his personality as City captain, he's a very demanding, at times selfish "my way or bust" type. That can be challenging if you're not much older than the players, so having a younger more malleable team suits him.



From Cork's leaving interview I'm not sure how true this claim is.

I just watched it. I mean, Jack would say that to be honest - and also, it could be his way of having a dig at Kompany? A manager who professes to pick those doing best in training, and Cork is saying well why didn't you pick me then?

[boyyanno]

Fck me what don’t you get?they was tap ins created by wingers better than we’ve got.Its not fcking rocket science.

The bit where you thought you'd score 2 Premier league goals.

[Newcastleclaret93]

It's not that I dislike them, I'm just meh about most and I don't think I've ever felt that about any Burnley side

I am very much the same.

I wouldn’t be bothered if any of them left

[JimmyRobbo]

O'Shea with a fantastic last ditch tackle. Thought he'd been slightly lax, at first.

[TsarBomba]

1-2

Let’s get another and finish on a positive.

[Robbie_painter]

The bit where you thought you'd score 2 Premier league goals.

Would’ve chipped both of them up and volleyed them in.You don’t know me.

[spt_claret]

I just watched it. I mean, Jack would say that to be honest - and also, it could be his way of having a dig at Kompany? A manager who professes to pick those doing best in training, and Cork is saying well why didn't you pick me then?

Yep I'm sure Cork's opinion is going to be coloured somewhat by natural self-bias, but I do suspect Kompany has his favourites. Every manager does, it's to be expected, and Cork wasn't his signing. Just more that I don't believe the idea that Kompany, or any manager, is entirely fair & objective in their selection.

[JimmyRobbo]

Cullen copies Wood's 2nd.

[burnleymik]

Whay!

[Neil]

Would love to see Berge have a shot just for the hell of it!

[hetheclaret]

Yep I'm sure Cork's opinion is going to be coloured somewhat by natural self-bias, but I do suspect Kompany has his favourites. Every manager does, it's to be expected, and Cork wasn't his signing. Just more that I don't believe the idea that Kompany, or any manager, is entirely fair & objective in their selection.

Yeah of course. And as hard as Cork tries in training I don't think he's PL quality anymore so don't really blame Kompany for not picking him.

[Safron]

Would love to see Berge have a shot just for the hell of it!

Don't be silly it's in his contract DON'T SHOOT

[Taffy on the wing]

Let's hope Cork gets on.

[JimmyRobbo]

Wood goes off. TBF, he applauded the Burnley fans, too.

I'm still smarting at how excited he was to score against us, as is his right, I suppose.

[JimmyRobbo]

Corky on to a massive applause. Been a beautiful player.

[Neil]

Odobert had a decent game today, just lacking the final ball / finish

[JimmyRobbo]

Odey had the chance to sell himself there.
TBF, he was closed down very quickly.

[burnleymik]

At least we had a go second half.

JBG Still had a lot to offer, but if he didn't want to stay, fair enough.

[Neil]

Funny game really. Can only remember Muric making one save and picking the ball out of his net twice.

Another illustration of how little these Premier League teams have needed to do.to beat us.

[burnleymik]

One thing that stands out. We need a striker in this window.

[Woody9229]

The mediocrity that is Vitinho!

[burnleymik]

How is there only 3 mins added? Been loads of subs and Forest have had a couple of lads down a few times this second half.

[Taffy on the wing]

Odobert had a decent game today, just lacking the final ball / finish

Talking about final balls..........Vitinho has the worst one i've ever seen!

[JimmyRobbo]

Well thank **** those 38 games are all over and done with. It's been painful. Perhaps the least enjoyable season since we've played in the EPL.

We may not run away with the Champ but at least can look forward to a few competitive games and then see what happens.

Roll on August!

[RVclaret]

Talking about final balls..........Vitinho has the worst one i've ever seen!

Ends the season on 0 goals 0 assists.

[burnleymik]

It ends as it started. With a loss at home. Been awful at home. So much needs to be sorted this Summer.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Abiding memory of seeing most of that game on US TV was first of all glad I didn’t bother going, and secondly how much we improved when the “old guard” came on. Particularly those early balls in from JBG.

[JimmyRobbo]

Forest plyers milking the limelight. Seem to think they're Liverpool and they've won the Champions League or something. Not really sure why. They've even got some tiny trophy out. All a bit poor.

Noticed VK had a little chat with Origi.

[kentonclaret]

Just as with Klopp it’s been a very drawn out long goodbye.

[TsarBomba]

Lap of honour? Many people stayed behind?

[kentonclaret]

Noticed VK had a little chat with Origi.

Two Belgians sharing a joke no doubt.

[Elizabeth]

Talking about final balls..........Vitinho has the worst one i've ever seen!

Someone else will know but I thought Vitinho wasn’t a regular starter in the Championship when we walked it.
If that may be right , I’m struggling with why he was a regular started in the much more higher quality league that is the Premier

[mdd2]

Have you wiped his final season from memory?

When yuo get beaten quite regularly you lose the cutting edge and determination. We've lost it this season. We lost it in SD's ;ast season, too.

But he didn’t have a preseason budget of £100 million did he

[JimmyRobbo]

Two Belgians sharing a joke no doubt.

Yup, probably nothing more than that.

I still think he might be a good player for us next year. He's not getting any time at Forest!

[SouthamptonClaret]

Someone else will know but I thought Vitinho wasn’t a regular starter in the Championship when we walked it.
If that may be right , I’m struggling with why he was a regular started in the much more higher quality league that is the Premier

23 starts and 12 sub appearances according to Wikipedia

Always liked his effort and attitude, but end product/decision making need improvement

[JimmyRobbo]

But he didn’t have a preseason budget of £100 million did he

He certainly didn't. Who knows what he could have done with it.

Worked miracles with what he had.

[JimmyRobbo]

Very sad watching Corky saying goodbye. What a Rolls Royce of a player he has been.

[timshorts]

Someone else will know but I thought Vitinho wasn’t a regular starter in the Championship when we walked it.
If that may be right , I’m struggling with why he was a regular started in the much more higher quality league that is the Premier

Because Roberts, who was one player that was likeable even if flawed, had been sent to Leeds.

And if robbie_painter was the real Robbie painter then yes, he'd probably have scored those tap ins.

[Elizabeth]

23 starts and 12 sub appearances according to Wikipedia

Always liked his effort and attitude, but end product/decision making need improvement

I’m going to come down on the feeling that Kompany divided the squad so much this season he needed a disciple like Vitinho

[BurnleyFC]

Another absolutely dogshit performance to end a dogshit season. Was nice to see JBG and Cork get some minutes and a proper send off.

Roll on next season.

[Quicknick]

I’m going to come down on the feeling that Kompany divided the squad so much this season he needed a disciple like Vitinho

Pure guesswork.