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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue May 21, 2024 1:30 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 1:12 pm
If VK goes Moyes would be my #1 without question - I feel like we need an experienced head who's seen it all to get the dross off the wage books and I think it'd be good for the board to see how a vastly more experienced manager, who has been at a number of clubs, operates.

He plays with wingers, a 4-2-3-1 (like we have done) and would work well with the centre halves on our books. It's not that dissimilar to a squad that he's used to managing.

Failing that then I'm not sure.
There’s no way in hell Moyes drops to the championship

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 1:31 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 1:30 pm
There’s no way in hell Moyes drops to the championship
There's no way in hell Bayern Munich appoint Vincent Kompany...

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Re: Next manager

Post by ecc » Tue May 21, 2024 1:47 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 1:30 pm
There’s no way in hell Moyes drops to the championship
There's no way in hell Moyes would drop to the Championship.

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Re: Next manager

Post by GDK » Tue May 21, 2024 1:52 pm

No mention yet of Craig Bellamy? If (and surely it's still a big IF) Kompany somehow gets the Bayern job, is it inevitable that CB goes with him? Or might he fancy taking the reigns himself?

Not saying this would be my preference but I suppose it's a way of having continuity.

But is continuity really that important? Several times this season (and last season to be fair) players have seemed baffled by the tactics or the way the manager wanted them to play. A new manager with a fresh and more simplified approach might be just what some of our squad need. I don't agree with the idea that they are only here to play for Kompany.

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Re: Next manager

Post by BB4Claret » Tue May 21, 2024 1:53 pm

If Kompany does go, I think the natural successor would be Graham Potter. I don’t think he has a job at the moment (I stand to be corrected on that), and his experience with the Brighton “project” would mean he’s a good fit for us.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ecc » Tue May 21, 2024 2:06 pm

Potter coming to Burnley would be a big surprise to say the least.

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Tue May 21, 2024 2:08 pm

BB4Claret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 1:53 pm
If Kompany does go, I think the natural successor would be Graham Potter. I don’t think he has a job at the moment (I stand to be corrected on that), and his experience with the Brighton “project” would mean he’s a good fit for us.
Potter who doesn't think the Ajax job is big enough for him ?

He has porbably convinced himself Man Utd will be ringing him soon

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Re: Next manager

Post by Marney&Mee » Tue May 21, 2024 2:43 pm

ecc wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 2:06 pm
Potter coming to Burnley would be a big surprise to say the least.
Brian or Harry?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 21, 2024 3:15 pm

if you look at the 'style' of the players we have then Cooper would probably fit us well, got Swansea to a play off final, got Forest promoted and then kept them up.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Wokingclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 3:26 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 3:15 pm
if you look at the 'style' of the players we have then Cooper would probably fit us well, got Swansea to a play off final, got Forest promoted and then kept them up.
Yes but we would have to look at him all the time :shock:
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Re: Next manager

Post by Ilkley claret » Tue May 21, 2024 3:41 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:54 am
Cooper
Knutsen
Robins
Svensson
Still
Cooper by a country mile for me

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Re: Next manager

Post by bigdavethemaddog » Tue May 21, 2024 4:06 pm

Carrick has just signed a new contract at Boro so id rule that one out

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rick_Muller » Tue May 21, 2024 4:09 pm

just done a quick google for the next manager odds and nearly died...

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/foo ... -favourite

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:11 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:09 pm
just done a quick google for the next manager odds and nearly died...

https://www.oddschecker.com/insight/foo ... -favourite
That article is from 2022 after we potted Dyche

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rick_Muller » Tue May 21, 2024 4:14 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:11 pm
That article is from 2022 after we potted Dyche
yes... I know... hence my comment :roll: :D
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:14 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:11 pm
That article is from 2022 after we potted Dyche
Interesting that Kompany wasn’t on that shortlist!
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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:17 pm

Rick_Muller wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:14 pm
yes... I know... hence my comment :roll: :D
Apologies; missed the sarcasm there, easy to do on t'internet!
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:19 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 1:31 pm
There's no way in hell Bayern Munich appoint Vincent Kompany...
You have to question why they’ bother requesting permission to speak to him and having a conversation then?

I’m sure there are other candidates in the frame but it’s a lot of effort to go to for someone there is ‘no way in hell’ they’ll appoint.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Holtyclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:19 pm

Hull fans wanted rosenior out from Xmas. It’s the rest of football that’s besotted with him.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:21 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:19 pm
Hull fans wanted rosenior out from Xmas. It’s the rest of football that’s besotted with him.
Potted at both Derby and Hull. Not even 2 years professional managerial experience.

Can’t understand how fans who have been so anti Kompany would be happy about Rosenior.
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Re: Next manager

Post by CharlieinNewMexico » Tue May 21, 2024 4:22 pm

Hernán Losada. Young, speaks about 5 languages, Belgian and American connection. Classic Alan appointment.

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:28 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:19 pm
You have to question why they’ bother requesting permission to speak to him and having a conversation then?

I’m sure there are other candidates in the frame but it’s a lot of effort to go to for someone there is ‘no way in hell’ they’ll appoint.
Ironically given my above post, was me being sarcastic NC.

NC93 suggested that 'no way in hell would Moyes drop to the Champ' - which I agree is unlikely... but then if VK can go from this season to Bayern Munich then heck, anything is possible.

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:32 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:19 pm
You have to question why they’ bother requesting permission to speak to him and having a conversation then?

I’m sure there are other candidates in the frame but it’s a lot of effort to go to for someone there is ‘no way in hell’ they’ll appoint.
I read today that 8/9 seriously considered candidates have already turned the job down and Tuchel stood by his decision to leave despite being asked by the club to reconsider. They seemed to have turned their attentions to Kompany because he once played in the Bundesliga and speaks German!

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:39 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 1:19 pm
Corberan my number 1 pick. Overperformed at both clubs in this league based on budget. Tactically flexible manager who can play several different styles. Would be interesting to see him given the best squad and largest budget in the league. I also think he’s smart enough to adjust to the PL challenge should we get there. Not sure whether he could be prized out of West Brom though.

Stylistically Rosenior and Knutsen fit the bill. Both like ball dominant teams and the transition to their styles would be minimal. The former is a bit of a Russell Martin style risk though given, like Martin, he didn’t deliver play offs - albeit again the play style would be very similar, while Saints had to completely change their approach, perhaps reducing that risk a touch.
How does Knutsen play? I thought he was a bit more of a Klopp counter attack style from what I remember reading previously.

Have to say he’s the one that I’d be most excited about…. Without actually knowing a single thing about him or Bodo Glimt :lol: :lol: and you have to ask why nobody else has come in for him?

60% win record at two of his past clubs though and 50% at the other, albeit not at our level.

The others mentioned just feel so meh to me, far lower profiles, not much better records (or worse!) and underline to me how lucky we are to have Kompany.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:40 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:28 pm
Ironically given my above post, was me being sarcastic NC.

NC93 suggested that 'no way in hell would Moyes drop to the Champ' - which I agree is unlikely... but then if VK can go from this season to Bayern Munich then heck, anything is possible.
Fair enough, got you. Had missed the other exchange.

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Re: Next manager

Post by elwaclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:41 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 2:08 pm
Potter who doesn't think the Ajax job is big enough for him ?

He has porbably convinced himself Man Utd will be ringing him soon
I’ve read that Ajax are in a right shambles, people read the name and imagine the Ajax of ten years ago.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:45 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:17 pm
Apologies; missed the sarcasm there, easy to do on t'internet!
truth right there !!! :D
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Re: Next manager

Post by Woodleyclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:45 pm

When Judas did the dirty on us he recommended McInnies who was at St Johnston at the time
If we are going Scottish how about Micky Mellon
Carrick is a no no for me another good player at United but a poor manager

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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Tue May 21, 2024 4:52 pm

If Alan Pace could sweet talk Graham Potter to succeed VK, should he be appointed at Bayern, I believe he would be successful here.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bigdavethemaddog » Tue May 21, 2024 5:23 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:45 pm
When Judas did the dirty on us he recommended McInnies who was at St Johnston at the time
If we are going Scottish how about Micky Mellon
Carrick is a no no for me another good player at United but a poor manager
Stevie Naismith at Hearts is the only manager id consider north of the border

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Re: Next manager

Post by CnBtruntru » Tue May 21, 2024 5:26 pm

Marney&Mee wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 2:43 pm
Brian or Harry?
Beatrix
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Re: Next manager

Post by It Is What It Is » Tue May 21, 2024 6:27 pm

David Moyes for me...he only lives 400 yards away from my house.
Guaranteed lift on match days!
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Re: Next manager

Post by IanMcL » Tue May 21, 2024 6:34 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:19 pm
You have to question why they’ bother requesting permission to speak to him and having a conversation then?

I’m sure there are other candidates in the frame but it’s a lot of effort to go to for someone there is ‘no way in hell’ they’ll appoint.
Agree.

Kompany obviously talks a good game, so you never know.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Quicknick » Wed May 22, 2024 3:55 am

I'd love David Moyes to come to Turf Moor.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Carlos the Great » Wed May 22, 2024 4:30 am

Reading tbis thread makes you think we better off sticking with VK …

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:01 am

It Is What It Is wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 6:27 pm
David Moyes for me...he only lives 400 yards away from my house.
Guaranteed lift on match days!
never mind that, knock on his door and ask if he fancies it !

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 5:04 am

RVclaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 1:19 pm
Corberan my number 1 pick. Overperformed at both clubs in this league based on budget. Tactically flexible manager who can play several different styles. Would be interesting to see him given the best squad and largest budget in the league. I also think he’s smart enough to adjust to the PL challenge should we get there. Not sure whether he could be prized out of West Brom though.

Stylistically Rosenior and Knutsen fit the bill. Both like ball dominant teams and the transition to their styles would be minimal. The former is a bit of a Russell Martin style risk though given, like Martin, he didn’t deliver play offs - albeit again the play style would be very similar, while Saints had to completely change their approach, perhaps reducing that risk a touch.
WBA were recently taken over, their owner is worth billions - he won't be leaving WBA

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 6:31 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 5:04 am
WBA were recently taken over, their owner is worth billions - he won't be leaving WBA
Where did you get that from?

All I can find in news articles at the time

‘Shilen Patel’s father, Kiran is estimated to be worth around $400 million (£318 million). It is believed that Shilen Patel himself has a net worth of around $100 million (£79.5 million).’

Quite a bit short of ‘billions’…

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Re: Next manager

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed May 22, 2024 6:46 am

Hugh Jass is a very top rated manager in the Norwegian top division.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Caernarfon_Claret » Wed May 22, 2024 8:29 am

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 6:46 am
Hugh Jass is a very top rated manager in the Norwegian top division.
Not sure I'd want a Hugh Jass type as manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Wed May 22, 2024 8:38 am

Carlos the Great wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 4:30 am
Reading tbis thread makes you think we better off sticking with VK …
Reading this thread either some people live in a fantasy world or know nothing about football.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Belgianclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 8:38 am

If Kompany goes, only one choice for me: Super Michael Jackson !!
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Re: Next manager

Post by Roosterbooster » Wed May 22, 2024 9:15 am

NewClaret wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 4:14 pm
Interesting that Kompany wasn’t on that shortlist!
Or Wilder or Knutsen
Both of whom I believe were on the shortlist

I'd like Kompany to stay
But if he goes, Knutsen is still my preferred choice, as he was 2 yrs ago

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Wed May 22, 2024 9:20 am

Belgianclaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 8:38 am
If Kompany goes, only one choice for me: Super Michael Jackson !!
Our current defensive coach?

:shock:

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Re: Next manager

Post by It Is What It Is » Wed May 22, 2024 9:22 am

Vegas Claret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 5:01 am
never mind that, knock on his door and ask if he fancies it !
No thanks, don't fancy facing the wrath of an angry Scot when he opens the door ...might see him in one of the local coffee shops tho... I'll ask him then.....but from a distance!
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Re: Next manager

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 9:51 am

Cooper or Moyes would be great

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretOfMancunia » Wed May 22, 2024 9:53 am

Cooper makes a lot of sense to me.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 9:53 am

As much as I think the bee hole podcast was a shocker last night whoever it was they suggested ole as a shout for next manager, that actually isn’t a bad shout. He actually had man united playing well

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 11:44 am

Roosterbooster wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 9:15 am
Or Wilder or Knutsen
Both of whom I believe were on the shortlist

I'd like Kompany to stay
But if he goes, Knutsen is still my preferred choice, as he was 2 yrs ago
Really, I heard it was Wilder and Rooney? (off here, not anybody itk)

Knutsen I don’t know a lot about but he has a very good record at Bodo Glimt so that’s oddly the one I’d be most excited about but have to say in general would be left pretty deflated if Kompany left.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Belgianclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 12:36 pm

ClaretOfMancunia wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 9:20 am
Our current defensive coach?

:shock:
He was stifled in his abilities 😜 the way we played was a nightmare for any coach, let alone a defensive coach 😎

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