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Re: More staff turnover

Post by burnleytom » Tue May 21, 2024 11:38 am

*If*/when VK stays, there is a worry that a management team which pi$$ed the Championship will be dismantled, despite now being back in it.

That being said, perhaps new staff who haven’t always worked with him, might provide more challenge and accountability to the manager. Could be argued that’s been something that’s missing.

“It was in early March, during a conversation between staff at Burnley’s training ground, that a member of the coaching team offered what could be the perfect epitaph to the club’s Premier League campaign.

“We knew it was going to be difficult,” he said. “But not this difficult.””

Might not be the worst to have a change, based on that. You could also argue that fitness and goalkeeping have been two big issues this year. A change in both departments (looking at who he brought with him) might also be beneficial.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by clarets1978 » Tue May 21, 2024 2:32 pm

On the Physio front its worth looking at how many players have been injured whilst not playing than in a game this season. Redmond, Al Dahkil, and others plus others that seem to struggle for fitness all the time. Maybe VK's methods havent been agreeable to them hence departures to Leicester and the like

On the videographers, whatever happened to stuff like Clarets uncut??

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Goliath » Tue May 21, 2024 3:00 pm

clarets1978 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 2:32 pm
On the Physio front its worth looking at how many players have been injured whilst not playing than in a game this season. Redmond, Al Dahkil, and others plus others that seem to struggle for fitness all the time. Maybe VK's methods havent been agreeable to them hence departures to Leicester and the like

On the videographers, whatever happened to stuff like Clarets uncut??
The lack of interesting behind the scenes content is really poor. Its a lot worse than it was 10 years ago when we had Ings, Arfield trippier etc joking around on camera.
You could really sense the spirit in the team through the videos and it really helped build that bond with the fans. This season I don't even know which members of our squad speak English

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Raconteur » Tue May 21, 2024 3:12 pm

Goliath wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 3:00 pm
The lack of interesting behind the scenes content is really poor. Its a lot worse than it was 10 years ago
You could say that for the season just gone but for the year before it was the complete opposite. In the 22/23 Championship season we probably had more access than has ever been seen before and it was really well produced ( having one of the best seasons ever helped)
It was only a year ago that almost every department at the club was being lauded over due to the high quality output.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Wokingclaret » Tue May 21, 2024 3:27 pm

Surprised the Goalie Coach is going had a big input

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by clarets1978 » Tue May 21, 2024 4:02 pm

Goliath wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 3:00 pm
The lack of interesting behind the scenes content is really poor. Its a lot worse than it was 10 years ago when we had Ings, Arfield trippier etc joking around on camera.
You could really sense the spirit in the team through the videos and it really helped build that bond with the fans. This season I don't even know which members of our squad speak English
Judging by the comments on here, they certainly dont speak the same language as the set piece coach! :lol:

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by dougcollins » Tue May 21, 2024 6:24 pm

DAVETHEVICAR wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 9:09 am
Pie server off to Park view Chippy
I've heard he needs to have his finger in more pies.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by burnleytom » Tue May 21, 2024 8:23 pm

burnleytom wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 11:38 am
That being said, perhaps new staff who haven’t always worked with him, might provide more challenge and accountability to the manager. Could be argued that’s been something that’s missing.
Just listening to Tavolieri on the Bee Hole End podcast, who said Pace had told him they were looking for an assistant coach. Bellamy on the way out then?

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Tue May 21, 2024 8:30 pm

It smells more to me of a desire for a Director of Football, which I can see going down like a lead balloon. Something has happened that is for sure.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Tribesmen » Wed May 22, 2024 10:06 am

TheHistoryLecturer24 wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:37 am
Phil is now at Leicester City
Back on here are R ?????? :D

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 22, 2024 10:07 am

burnleytom wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 8:23 pm
Just listening to Tavolieri on the Bee Hole End podcast, who said Pace had told him they were looking for an assistant coach. Bellamy on the way out then?
YES

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by dushanbe » Wed May 22, 2024 10:14 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 10:06 am
They are changing the Ball Boys to Burnley college students next year.
That's where they recruit the flag bearers from at the minute, but haven't been the most reliable.

It's not exactly the age where you would want to do these jobs.
The ball boys have been provided from a local grassroots club this season.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed May 22, 2024 10:20 am

dushanbe wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 10:14 am
The ball boys have been provided from a local grassroots club this season.
Yeah, I know the people involved and some of the parents of the lads.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by dushanbe » Wed May 22, 2024 10:29 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 10:20 am
Yeah, I know the people involved and some of the parents of the lads.
You may know me then...

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:30 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 10:07 am
YES
Wonder if Bellamy might fancy a place in the Wales set up

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed May 22, 2024 10:30 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 10:07 am
YES
Next Birmingham Manager :shock:

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed May 22, 2024 11:25 am

dushanbe wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 10:29 am
You may know me then...
It's the ones from Padiham I know.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by NewClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 11:39 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 10:07 am
YES
Really? Thats interesting. Especially with the GK coach going.

Is that all part of Kompany leaving or are the changes planned by him?

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by NickBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 11:41 am

Something definitely odd going on with the club at the moment. I guess we'll see what happens in the next few days but lots of uncertainty after relegation is not ideal at all.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by ClaretTony » Wed May 22, 2024 11:43 am

NewClaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 11:39 am
Really? Thats interesting. Especially with the GK coach going.

Is that all part of Kompany leaving or are the changes planned by him?
Don't know, but not the only two.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by NewClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 11:45 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 11:43 am
Don't know, but not the only two.
Tell you what all this sounds like to me: his staff have all resigned in advance so they’ve worked their notice and Kompany’s new club don’t have to compensate us for them?

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Claretitus » Wed May 22, 2024 7:03 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 11:45 am
[quote=ClaretTony post_id=2339452 time=<a href="tel:1716374611">1716374611</a> user_id=48]
Don't know, but not the only two.
Tell you what all this sounds like to me: his staff have all resigned in advance so they’ve worked their notice and Kompany’s new club don’t have to compensate us for them?
[/quote]

It’s looking increasingly likely. Only just logged on here, but I had a text message from a guy who generally gives good, reliable info, and it inferred that VK and ALL his staff have gone. Someone tasked with emptying his office and filling a skip. Why is the silence from the club deafening??

Embarrassing all round.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by NewClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 7:12 pm

Claretitus wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:03 pm

It’s looking increasingly likely. Only just logged on here, but I had a text message from a guy who generally gives good, reliable info, and it inferred that VK and ALL his staff have gone. Someone tasked with emptying his office and filling a skip. Why is the silence from the club deafening??

Embarrassing all round.
I hope that is not true because it probably means Pace sacked him in that case (there’s no way a deal got done with Bayern so quickly) and he’s sandbagged Pace in to sacking him having already lined up Bayern - meaning no payout for us and potentially a payoff!!!

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 7:20 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:12 pm
I hope that is not true because it probably means Pace sacked him in that case (there’s no way a deal got done with Bayern so quickly) and he’s sandbagged Pace in to sacking him having already lined up Bayern - meaning no payout for us and potentially a payoff!!!
I think your imagination is running wild because the scenario you've described would probably mean the exact opposite meaning severance pay & no compensation. Kompany would be a free man with a pay out & without bayern being obligated. Pace will be sitting tight he doesn't have to do anything apart from wait & see what happens.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by lakedistrictclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 7:20 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:12 pm
I hope that is not true because it probably means Pace sacked him in that case (there’s no way a deal got done with Bayern so quickly) and he’s sandbagged Pace in to sacking him having already lined up Bayern - meaning no payout for us and potentially a payoff!!!
This may or may not be the case, NewClaret, but all this is the sort of thing that happens at other clubs, not Burnley.

Since the Americans took over, this feels less and less like the club I've supported for nearly sixty years.
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Re: More staff turnover

Post by jrgbfc » Wed May 22, 2024 7:22 pm

Claretitus wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:03 pm
Tell you what all this sounds like to me: his staff have all resigned in advance so they’ve worked their notice and Kompany’s new club don’t have to compensate us for them?
It’s looking increasingly likely. Only just logged on here, but I had a text message from a guy who generally gives good, reliable info, and it inferred that VK and ALL his staff have gone. Someone tasked with emptying his office and filling a skip. Why is the silence from the club deafening??

Embarrassing all round.
[/quote]

They've announced the club reception and ticket office will be closed tomorrow. Must be a big skip!
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Re: More staff turnover

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 7:30 pm

That’s an interesting take about back room staff leaving and working their notice so there would be no compensation for them. Surely they lose some kind of loyality bonus if they resign?

I don’t think Bellamy would be joining kompany at Bayern, he left Anderlect due to personal problems regarding his mental health so he probably doesn’t want to be far away from family again

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by boatshed bill » Wed May 22, 2024 7:40 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:22 pm

They've announced the club reception and ticket office will be closed tomorrow. Must be a big skip!

I wonder what will be in it? Could be some decent souvenirs :D

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by GetIntoEm » Wed May 22, 2024 7:40 pm

I've seen the message about emptying the offices as well. Not sure it's true

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by jrgbfc » Wed May 22, 2024 7:41 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:40 pm
I wonder what will be in it? Could be some decent souvenirs :D
Be full of VK baseball caps.
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Re: More staff turnover

Post by NewClaret » Wed May 22, 2024 7:53 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:20 pm
I think your imagination is running wild because the scenario you've described would probably mean the exact opposite meaning severance pay & no compensation. Kompany would be a free man with a pay out & without bayern being obligated. Pace will be sitting tight he doesn't have to do anything apart from wait & see what happens.
We’re saying the same thing I think. If it were true his staff had left and his office were being cleared, my point was it would be likely that somehow Kompany had been sacked (requiring a pay off) having lined up Bayern on the side (meaning no compensation for us). Getting wildly speculative here so probably best I just shut up.

For me the prospect of compensation is about the only good thing that would come from this saga.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Claretnick » Wed May 22, 2024 8:00 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:53 pm
We’re saying the same thing I think. If it were true his staff had left and his office were being cleared, my point was it would be likely that somehow Kompany had been sacked (requiring a pay off) having lined up Bayern on the side (meaning no compensation for us). Getting wildly speculative here so probably best I just shut up.

For me the prospect of compensation is about the only good thing that would come from this saga.
Someone earlier in the thread mentioned there might be a lowball clause in the contract which could mean no compenstaion from a larger club. I must admit I didn't really understand why we would have agreed to this.
When would the backroom staff have handed in their resignations, if they had a month's notice to work would this indicate that VK's move has been brewing for a while.
Has he been plotting this instead of concentrating on the run in or are we all overthinking :roll:

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Jakubclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 8:30 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 7:53 pm
We’re saying the same thing I think. If it were true his staff had left and his office were being cleared, my point was it would be likely that somehow Kompany had been sacked (requiring a pay off) having lined up Bayern on the side (meaning no compensation for us). Getting wildly speculative here so probably best I just shut up.

For me the prospect of compensation is about the only good thing that would come from this saga.
You have to hand it to pace he's a lucky sod on the quiet first dyche & now kompany managing to get compensation (although with dyche just meant not paying him) instead of honoring lengthy contracts. I think next season would have unfolded with kompany being under intense pressure & he knew it & pace again has saved himself money again.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Belgianclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 8:37 pm

If Kompany goes the might as well take his backroom staff with him. Most of them are his close friends.
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Re: More staff turnover

Post by agreenwood » Wed May 22, 2024 9:10 pm

Interestingly The Telegraph (McGrath) are reporting that Kompany is taking his back room staff with him, including Bellamy.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by warksclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 9:18 pm

Doesn't Bellamy have no where to live-he has little option.Hopefully Jackson too if he is our defensive coach

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Wed May 22, 2024 9:18 pm

Mike Jackson has also left just heard
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Re: More staff turnover

Post by warksclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 9:19 pm

Wow the Turf must have been an interesting place today

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Murger » Wed May 22, 2024 9:21 pm

Gonna be an interesting close and pre-season.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed May 22, 2024 9:27 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 9:18 pm
Mike Jackson has also left just heard
You have just heard or just keep refreshing twitterclarets

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by GetIntoEm » Wed May 22, 2024 9:30 pm

betting suspended, its done.

cant decide if i'm gutted, or excited

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Dark Cloud » Wed May 22, 2024 9:34 pm

We've just had THE most appalling season and it's up there with some of the utterly dreadful ones we were experiencing in the lower echelons! BUT I'll be absolutely gutted if VK really does go. He absolutely walked the Championship once and I'm convinced he can do it again. Whether after promotion he would then be a better PL manager due to his experiences this season is a question for another day. He can attract players who can rip the Championship up and if we lose him we're losing exactly the guy we'd be looking for to fill the vacancy.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Wed May 22, 2024 9:35 pm

Rebuild needed and asap

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Wed May 22, 2024 9:36 pm

Rebuild? There’s no staff left by the sounds of it

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by GetIntoEm » Wed May 22, 2024 9:38 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 9:35 pm
Rebuild needed and asap
we've not really much choice

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Murger » Wed May 22, 2024 9:39 pm

Gives the new man chance to sort the whole squad out.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by claptrappers_union » Wed May 22, 2024 9:58 pm

People who tend to be recruited don’t stick around that long from my observations, but I don't know why they leave… that said I think a lot of work is farmed out now and theres more hybrid working.

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by warksclaret » Wed May 22, 2024 10:13 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 9:30 pm
betting suspended, its done.

cant decide if i'm gutted, or excited
This news has gone someway to offset my disappointment of being relegated, and timing is perfect

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Re: More staff turnover

Post by Claretfever » Wed May 22, 2024 10:14 pm

Can we throw in the match day barstaff? 😄
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Re: More staff turnover

Post by GetIntoEm » Wed May 22, 2024 10:15 pm

Claretfever wrote:
Wed May 22, 2024 10:14 pm
Can we throw in the match day barstaff? 😄
Don't think you'll find any takers for that shower

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