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Re: Next manager

Post by mikeS » Thu May 23, 2024 2:41 pm

We need a manager with experience of managing at least at championship level.
We don't need another salesman telling us 'it's a long term project' nonsense.
We are a football club not a mission to frickin Mars.

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Re: Next manager

Post by The Shire Claret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:42 pm

I like and respect Moyes .... I think West Ham fans showed that they are never really happy with they way he was treated after getting them stable and won them a cup in europe

But I don't think he would be the right fit for us and for him ....

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Re: Next manager

Post by tally » Thu May 23, 2024 2:42 pm

Its Moyes not Mars

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Re: Next manager

Post by LordBob » Thu May 23, 2024 2:44 pm

Personally I would be very happy to see David Moyes take the position but whether or not he would take the job is the big question. A lot of excellent posts debating the why's and wherefores but sometimes the challenge and the kudos that goes with possible success might be too much to ignore.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Thu May 23, 2024 2:49 pm

I wanted VK out early last season as I could see it wasn’t going to work after a few games. I valued the club’s PL status more than him as an individual. He was probably the best bet to get us back up though. He had recently become a more divisive figure but I think everyone will get right behind a new manager whoever it is. This is probably the best way to start a new season.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Thu May 23, 2024 2:51 pm

Really not sure Moyes is the man. Is he really going to be motivated enough for a season in the champ? How's his knowledge of Championship players? What market are we going to sign players from?

I think his role is to stabilise teams In the Premier Leaggue these days. I don't think he's what we are after.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Philss_99 » Thu May 23, 2024 2:52 pm

Personally would prefer Bellamy to stay on as head Coach under a DOF for the continuity of our squad.
If not then Moyes or Knutsen or Cooper.

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Re: Next manager

Post by alwaysaclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:56 pm

The Shire Claret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 2:42 pm
I like and respect Moyes .... I think West Ham fans showed that they are never really happy with they way he was treated after getting them stable and won them a cup in europe

But I don't think he would be the right fit for us and for him ....
Can’t think of a better option right now to be honest, experienced, still only 61, and plenty of passion and know how left in the tank, lot's of ground work done, we just need a more pragmatic, less stubborn and open to change to get results guy and I'd guess less into the analystics side of the game, more likely to play simple football as he see's it on the pitch. perfect fit imo, still a property in the north west I think, what's not to like.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Vegas Claret » Thu May 23, 2024 2:56 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 2:16 pm
There’s just something about him I cannot warm to.

He always looks like his face has been slapped or he’s in an abusive relationship or something. He just doesn’t scream ‘leader’ to me.

Will say that with his championship experience and premiere league experience I’d prefer him to all this Robins, Rosinior talk. Definitely.
Liverpool Academy manager
won the U17 World Cup with England
Got an average Swansea side to the play-off final
Took over Forest when they were going down in the Championship and got them promoted

What part of that doesn't scream 'leader' ?

He ticks pretty much every single box, works well with young lads, plenty of experience and a track record of getting the job done. I don't really know much about his style of play though tbh

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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu May 23, 2024 2:59 pm

Vegas Claret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 2:56 pm
Liverpool Academy manager
won the U17 World Cup with England
Got an average Swansea side to the play-off final
Took over Forest when they were going down in the Championship and got them promoted

What part of that doesn't scream 'leader' ?

He ticks pretty much every single box, works well with young lads, plenty of experience and a track record of getting the job done. I don't really know much about his style of play though tbh
He’s also very highly thought of by some of the best young players.

I believe Foden has been very very complimentary of him in the past.

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu May 23, 2024 3:01 pm

My main fear about Steve Cooper is the cricket field adopting the Super trooper song, I am not ready for the CFS to be belting out Abba so for that reason it's a no from me.

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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Thu May 23, 2024 3:03 pm

Now The Mail saying Bellamy is NOT going with VK.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... unich.html

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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu May 23, 2024 3:06 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:01 pm
My main fear about Steve Cooper is the cricket field adopting the Super trooper song, I am not ready for the CFS to be belting out Abba so for that reason it's a no from me.
Haha that would be the main reason I want him

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Re: Next manager

Post by Big Vinny K » Thu May 23, 2024 3:10 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 2:16 pm

He always looks like his face has been slapped or he’s in an abusive relationship or something. He just doesn’t scream ‘leader’ to me.
Jesus.
It’s football management not Love Island.
If good looks was a criteria then you can rule out Moyes too.

Wonder how much Leonardo Di Caprio knows about transitioning through the lines and the use of high wing backs.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bfcpete » Thu May 23, 2024 3:11 pm

Cesc Fabregas???

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu May 23, 2024 3:12 pm

Can’t believe anyone would really want Bellamy as a manager

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jamesy » Thu May 23, 2024 3:14 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:38 pm
Moyes will not join a Championship club after all that time in the prem. It just won’t happen irrespective of whether he would be the best man for the job or if we offered a massive contract. The guy has earned millions and clearly doesn’t need to be farting around in the Championship with a load of foreign youngsters. It would be like Gordon Ramsay going back to Le Gavroche to work as a sous chef.
Nice one. Great analogy pal!

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Re: Next manager

Post by IanMcL » Thu May 23, 2024 3:15 pm

Whoever gets the job, at least half the players have to go. Far too many on the books.

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Thu May 23, 2024 3:17 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:06 pm
Haha that would be the main reason I want him
:D :D I could add I am surprised but.........

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Re: Next manager

Post by BigChaCha » Thu May 23, 2024 3:28 pm

Moyes will not join a Championship club after all that time in the prem. It just won’t happen irrespective of whether he would be the best man for the job or if we offered a massive contract. The guy has earned millions and clearly doesn’t need to be farting around in the Championship with a load of foreign youngsters. It would be like Gordon Ramsay going back to Le Gavroche to work as a sous chef.
Nice one. Great analogy pal!
A terrible analogy!...

Gordon Ramsay is the Pep Guardiola or Carlo Ancelotti of the food world, and David Moyes is the equivalent of Ainsley Harriott :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 3:34 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:28 pm
A terrible analogy!...

Gordon Ramsay is the Pep Guardiola or Carlo Ancelotti of the food world, and David Moyes is the equivalent of Ainsley Harriott :lol:
Aye and Vinnie is Delia Smith - Lets be having you!!!

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Re: Next manager

Post by Carlos the Great » Thu May 23, 2024 3:36 pm

I agree that Moyes days in the championship are probably behind him ..

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Re: Next manager

Post by Cornwallclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 3:43 pm

Bellamy, no thanks.. carrick, robins , come on.. decent championship managers yes but is that all we want? It’s got to either moyes or cooper or perhaps even Edwards .. we’ve got a very talented young squad that just needs a bit of steel and a coach that knows what he’s doing

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Re: Next manager

Post by Jamesy » Thu May 23, 2024 3:43 pm

BigChaCha wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 3:28 pm
A terrible analogy!...

Gordon Ramsay is the Pep Guardiola or Carlo Ancelotti of the food world, and David Moyes is the equivalent of Ainsley Harriott :lol:
Gordon Ramsay the Pep Guardiola of the food world? Crikey. More like Roy Hodgson.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hibsclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 4:02 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 12:45 pm
Or he's earned all those millions, still wants to manage where he won't be undermined and would preferably want to manage near to where his home is?

Not that farfetched is it?
We’ll see how far fetched it is when it doesn’t happen which it won’t in a million years.

If you see my bare backside in Burtons window you’ll know it’s happened.

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 4:05 pm

Hibsclaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:02 pm
We’ll see how far fetched it is when it doesn’t happen which it won’t in a million years.

If you see my bare backside in Burtons window you’ll know it’s happened.
I'm alright for that mate.

We've just seen our manager get poached by Bayern Munich after turning in a 24 point season - if that can happen quite literally anything can.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Roosterbooster » Thu May 23, 2024 4:06 pm

Bellamy - no, no thanks
Cole - please, please, NO
Rooney - you're having a laugh right???
Moyes- not gonna happen
Rosenior, Rohl, Edwards - rather not
Corberan - possibly
Carrick, Robins - wouldn't mind
Fabregas - it'd be interesting, but I don't think he's experienced enough for this job
Potter - very tempting
Cooper, Knutsen - cant choose between them. Yes to both

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu May 23, 2024 4:08 pm

What’s Nixon saying in his patreon

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Re: Next manager

Post by TsarBomba » Thu May 23, 2024 4:09 pm

Russell Martin wouldn’t be a bad shout.

Talk of him being sacked if Southampton don’t go up.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Thu May 23, 2024 4:14 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:09 pm
Russell Martin wouldn’t be a bad shout.

Talk of him being sacked if Southampton don’t go up.
Has he succeeded anywhere he's been?

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Re: Next manager

Post by TsarBomba » Thu May 23, 2024 4:21 pm

Goliath wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:14 pm
Has he succeeded anywhere he's been?
Had nothing to really work with at MK Dons and Swansea.

25 match unbeaten run this season, and on verge of promotion.

Probably unfortunate he’s had to contend with the most competitive Championship in years, otherwise may have secured automatic.

Similar style of play VK.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Thu May 23, 2024 4:31 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:06 pm
Bellamy - no, no thanks
Cole - please, please, NO
Rooney - you're having a laugh right???
Moyes- not gonna happen
Rosenior, Rohl, Edwards - rather not
Corberan - possibly
Carrick, Robins - wouldn't mind
Fabregas - it'd be interesting, but I don't think he's experienced enough for this job
Potter - very tempting
Cooper, Knutsen - cant choose between them. Yes to both
Potter has turned Ajax and others down he won't be coming anywhere near Burnley.
I'd have Rohl and Edwards over Carrick and Robins personally.
Firstly I'd be going all out for Cooper though
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Re: Next manager

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Thu May 23, 2024 4:33 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:06 pm
Bellamy - no, no thanks
Cole - please, please, NO
Rooney - you're having a laugh right???
Moyes- not gonna happen
Rosenior, Rohl, Edwards - rather not
Corberan - possibly
Carrick, Robins - wouldn't mind
Fabregas - it'd be interesting, but I don't think he's experienced enough for this job
Potter - very tempting
Cooper, Knutsen - cant choose between them. Yes to both
I will hazard a guess and say not a single person you have listed will be under consideration.

They will be looking to Europe for the next hot thing.

There’s plenty around I’ve listed a few that am adamant the club will be after or at least hoping to attract

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Re: Next manager

Post by Dark Cloud » Thu May 23, 2024 4:34 pm

The issue I have with people like Moyes and his ilk is they are used to spending rather large amounts of cash on extremely good players. I actually like Moyes and I do think he's not only a good manager, but an honest type who understands football in this country and the way it has to connect with the fans. Slightly "old school" if you like. But ultimately we simply can't afford someone who needs to chuck money around on expensive players on expensive contracts. We need someone with contacts in the lower leagues in this country and abroad and who can spot and hopefully polish a few diamonds and who is ambitious and has a point to prove. (Yes, I do realise this sounds exactly like VK! )

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Thu May 23, 2024 4:35 pm

It's got to be Knutsen or Fabregas for me if attainable.
None of the British based managers inspire confidence but it'd have to be Carrick, Cooper or Robins for me if we take that approach.
I really like Robins but it would be a bit of a gamble.

If Bellamy gets it we are royally screwed.

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Re: Next manager

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 4:45 pm

Carrick has taken Championship play-off contenders to lacklustre mid table obscurity- not sure why he’d be in the running

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Re: Next manager

Post by bigdavethemaddog » Thu May 23, 2024 4:46 pm

im surprised nobody has mentioned this Will Still who has been linked with every job going? i know nothing about him but everybody seems to be raving about him

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 4:56 pm

LincsWoldsClaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:45 pm
Carrick has taken Championship play-off contenders to lacklustre mid table obscurity- not sure why he’d be in the running
After losing Ramsey, Archer, Akpom & Giles, Boro had a stinker in the summer recruitment wise and then lost half his defence to season long injuries. They had a pretty good run towards the end and were a shout for sneaking in the play offs. I think his style of play is very suited to our current squad profile. Sounds like he will sign a new deal though.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bigdavethemaddog » Thu May 23, 2024 5:00 pm

Scott Parker is another name not mentioned who is available and with two promotions from Championship on his CV

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Re: Next manager

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Thu May 23, 2024 5:01 pm

bigdavethemaddog wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 5:00 pm
Scott Parker is another name not mentioned who is available and with two promotions from Championship on his CV
One of the best suggestions so far

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Re: Next manager

Post by boatshed bill » Thu May 23, 2024 5:02 pm

Goliath wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 4:35 pm

If Bellamy gets it we are royally screwed.

Why do you think this?

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Thu May 23, 2024 5:02 pm

bigdavethemaddog wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 5:00 pm
Scott Parker is another name not mentioned who is available and with two promotions from Championship on his CV
One of the worst suggestions so far
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Re: Next manager

Post by quoonbeatz » Thu May 23, 2024 5:02 pm

Let's halt any talk of scott(ie) parker right there. He's a bag of daz.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Bowclaret » Thu May 23, 2024 5:05 pm

Fabregas for me if possible. He was mentioned prior to VK coming in.

Very well respected in the game and I’m sure he would fit in very well and do a great job

Whispers of interest !

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu May 23, 2024 5:07 pm

Don’t think Bellamy would be well suited to management but is probably a very good number 2.

I’d like him to stay in the staff given he has a reputation as a good coach .

It’ll be interesting to see which names come up once Kompany is confirmed as gone.

Hopefully they’re done their homework and the wheels are in motion .

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Thu May 23, 2024 5:08 pm

Bowclaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 5:05 pm
Fabregas for me if possible. He was mentioned prior to VK coming in.

Very well respected in the game and I’m sure he would fit in very well and do a great job

Whispers of interest !
Where are these whispers from?

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Thu May 23, 2024 5:09 pm

Bowclaret wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 5:05 pm
Fabregas for me if possible. He was mentioned prior to VK coming in.

Very well respected in the game and I’m sure he would fit in very well and do a great job

Whispers of interest !
I think he would be an exciting addition, very similar to VK 2 years ago.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Thu May 23, 2024 5:09 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 5:02 pm
Why do you think this?
He's a ticking timebomb with issues. I doubt the stress of management would be good for him.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Dodobdobodobo » Thu May 23, 2024 5:14 pm

Chris Davies is a name that hasn’t been mentioned but is assistant manager at Spurs. Worked under Brendan Rodgers at Celtic and at Reading. Well thought of in the game apparently

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Thu May 23, 2024 5:18 pm

Dodobdobodobo wrote:
Thu May 23, 2024 5:14 pm
Chris Davies is a name that hasn’t been mentioned but is assistant manager at Spurs. Worked under Brendan Rodgers at Celtic and at Reading. Well thought of in the game apparently
No thanks. Its no time for gambles as big as that

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