Kompany to Bayern Munich?

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by IanMcL » Fri May 24, 2024 7:12 pm

Still a lot for a failure.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by ksrclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 7:13 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:10 pm
If that’s true it’s quite a disappointing sum from what we were led to believe.
I'd still be laughing all the way to the bank and checking over my shoulder to make sure they've not changed their mind. It's bloody brilliant business.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by FeedTheArf » Fri May 24, 2024 7:18 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:06 pm
Its an unbelievable deal for Pace to get this, wipes his slate clean after the Dyche contract debacle also, hopefully harsh lessons have been learnt here about daft long contracts .

I wonder how long he will last at Bayern, they are pretty unforgiving by all accounts, if they think their getting the next Xabi Alonso i think they will be dissapointed.
Is it really an unbelievable master stroke from Pace? Hasn’t he just got lucky that a massive club is desperate for a manager and for some reason chose Kompany?

Pace is absolutely besotted by Kompany. It could very easily have been a sacking a few months into next season in which case we’d be paying out millions!

Lucky? Absolutely! A contact genius? Jury’s out!

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by bumba » Fri May 24, 2024 7:29 pm

I'll be sticking a tenner on him being sacked by Christmas
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Superjohnnyfrancis » Fri May 24, 2024 7:30 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:18 pm
Is it really an unbelievable master stroke from Pace? Hasn’t he just got lucky that a massive club is desperate for a manager and for some reason chose Kompany?

Pace is absolutely besotted by Kompany. It could very easily have been a sacking a few months into next season in which case we’d be paying out millions!

Lucky? Absolutely! A contact genius? Jury’s out!
Yes dont get me wrong Pace hasnt engineered this it has fallen into his lap for sure, massive stroke of luck.

If it goes through they've saved the club circa £15m and paid off the transfer fee of Tresor, excellent!

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri May 24, 2024 7:33 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:10 pm
If that’s true it’s quite a disappointing sum from what we were led to believe.
Won’t this make him the third most expensive manager transfer ever?

Blows the record for a manager transfer from the championship

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by NewClaret » Fri May 24, 2024 7:35 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:33 pm
Won’t this make him the third most expensive manager transfer ever?

Blows the record for a manager transfer from the championship
Just disappointing in the context of the initially reported £20m.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri May 24, 2024 7:38 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:10 pm
If that’s true it’s quite a disappointing sum from what we were led to believe.
The thing is with the fee, Bayern are always going to feed to the media that the deal is on the cheaper side and Burnley will report on higher.

Safe money would be 15m with another 2m for league 1m for cup
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Swizzlestick » Fri May 24, 2024 7:38 pm

The £20m was just plucked out of thin air early doors.

If we’re getting anything above £10m, we’ve had a right result.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 7:39 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:10 pm
If that’s true it’s quite a disappointing sum from what we were led to believe.
Some Journos told us we spent £110 mill last summer. Most if us knew that was ******** also

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Fri May 24, 2024 7:39 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:38 pm
The thing is with the fee, Bayern are always going to feed to the media that the deal is on the cheaper side and Burnley will report on higher.

Safe money would be 15m with another 2m for league 1m for cup
I suspect the reality is more likely 10m in pounds.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 7:40 pm

Superjohnnyfrancis wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:30 pm
Yes dont get me wrong Pace hasnt engineered this it has fallen into his lap for sure, massive stroke of luck.

If it goes through they've saved the club circa £15m and paid off the transfer fee of Tresor, excellent!
Are you against everything Burnley?

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by NewClaret » Fri May 24, 2024 7:46 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:39 pm
Some Journos told us we spent £110 mill last summer. Most if us knew that was ******** also
Yeah fair point.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by bfcjg » Fri May 24, 2024 7:47 pm

TBH he's shown his true colours,always wondered why Anderlecht sacked him, there's obviously a very unpleasant, egotistical, greedy two faced man underneath that carefully manufactured media image.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri May 24, 2024 7:52 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:39 pm
I suspect the reality is more likely 10m in pounds.
It will be more than 10m pounds

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Fri May 24, 2024 7:53 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:47 pm
TBH he's shown his true colours,always wondered why Anderlecht sacked him, there's obviously a very unpleasant, egotistical, greedy two faced man underneath that carefully manufactured media image.
What on earth are you basing that on. Must have been said a million times now, there isn’t a manager under the sun that wouldn’t be jumping at an offer to manager Bayern, never mind one that’s just been relegated with Burnley…

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Silkyskills1 » Fri May 24, 2024 7:54 pm

Lots of comments regarding how successful or not VK might be in Germany. I'm not an officiado of European football at all but am wondering how strong the Bundesliga is. Would the squad he has inherited be good enough to beat the majority of sides whoever was the coach? If this is the case then he may well fare better over there than many on here think. Where would Bayern have to be in the league do you think for their Board and fans to voice disapproval?

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 7:57 pm

ClaretAL wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:10 pm
Wow
Please feel free to expand on the "Wow" with your insightful observations.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by NewClaret » Fri May 24, 2024 7:58 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:18 pm
Is it really an unbelievable master stroke from Pace? Hasn’t he just got lucky that a massive club is desperate for a manager and for some reason chose Kompany?

Pace is absolutely besotted by Kompany. It could very easily have been a sacking a few months into next season in which case we’d be paying out millions!

Lucky? Absolutely! A contact genius? Jury’s out!
It depends what he negotiated in both contracts.

With Dyche for instance he may have negotiated to pay him until he found new work, so 9 months or whatever it was, paid monthly.

In these circumstances they’re very low risk because you’d expect a good manager to find new work in the market fairly quickly.

If he negotiated a set fee to buy out Kompany’s contract that was a good amount and paid all up front, that would be a good deal too.

We’ll never know though I guess.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by bfcjg » Fri May 24, 2024 7:58 pm

PremierLeagueClass wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:53 pm
What on earth are you basing that on. Must have been said a million times now, there isn’t a manager under the sun that wouldn’t be jumping at an offer to manager Bayern, never mind one that’s just been relegated with Burnley…
Do uou really need to ask ? 5 minute phone call and he leaves, the players he has fallen.out with, his sole purpose with us this season was to be a Pep mark 2 but it isn't his fault wecwere relegated it's the players not goodcenough, flooding the squad with players who have to come through his agency etc etc.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 8:07 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:58 pm
Do uou really need to ask ? 5 minute phone call and he leaves, the players he has fallen.out with, his sole purpose with us this season was to be a Pep mark 2 but it isn't his fault wecwere relegated it's the players not goodcenough, flooding the squad with players who have to come through his agency etc etc.
He's left/leaving the place in a totally utterly crap state of affairs & you still get the old garbage wouldn't you jump at the chance to manage BM completely forgetting the fact we aren't contracted to a football club & squandered sh1tloads of cash overseeing a relegation.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 24, 2024 8:20 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 6:58 pm
Any idea on announcement timeframe Tony?
Plettenberg from Sky Germany is suggesting over the weekend at latest. But it needs to be done now to allow us to move on.

Seems that Geers, Ngalula & Jackson are going with him. Ten Rouwelaar is going to Ajax while both Bellamy & Cremers have left Burnley but not going to Bayern. That just leaves us with Bredice and inspirational set piece coach Tybebo.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by randomclaret2 » Fri May 24, 2024 8:25 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:20 pm
Plettenberg from Sky Germany is suggesting over the weekend at latest. But it needs to be done now to allow us to move on.

Seems that Geers, Ngalula & Jackson are going with him. Ten Rouwelaar is going to Ajax while both Bellamy & Cremers have left Burnley but not going to Bayern. That just leaves us with Bredice and inspirational set piece coach Tybebo.
Too many Cooks and all that...

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri May 24, 2024 8:30 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:20 pm
Plettenberg from Sky Germany is suggesting over the weekend at latest. But it needs to be done now to allow us to move on.

Seems that Geers, Ngalula & Jackson are going with him. Ten Rouwelaar is going to Ajax while both Bellamy & Cremers have left Burnley but not going to Bayern. That just leaves us with Bredice and inspirational set piece coach Tybebo.
Bredice as the head anayalists probably stays if the new manager wants him

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Winstonswhite » Fri May 24, 2024 8:32 pm

Jakubclaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:07 pm
He's left/leaving the place in a totally utterly crap state of affairs & you still get the old garbage wouldn't you jump at the chance to manage BM completely forgetting the fact we aren't contracted to a football club & squandered sh1tloads of cash overseeing a relegation.
Has it been left in that crap a state of affairs? The new managers got a good amount of quality players to work with in the Championship

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Fri May 24, 2024 8:32 pm

Least we won’t have the genius idea of an early pre season /break then pre season ever again. Worked wonders that 🙄

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri May 24, 2024 8:34 pm

blatherwickstattoos wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:32 pm
Least we won’t have the genius idea of an early pre season /break then pre season ever again. Worked wonders that 🙄
Kompany had planned for players to be back in 4 weeks time

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by rufus lumley » Fri May 24, 2024 8:38 pm

Feels like we have swum the channel.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by NewClaret » Fri May 24, 2024 8:41 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:20 pm
Plettenberg from Sky Germany is suggesting over the weekend at latest. But it needs to be done now to allow us to move on.

Seems that Geers, Ngalula & Jackson are going with him. Ten Rouwelaar is going to Ajax while both Bellamy & Cremers have left Burnley but not going to Bayern. That just leaves us with Bredice and inspirational set piece coach Tybebo.
I’d be really shocked if he didn’t take his full team with him, unless he doesn’t rate them either :lol: :lol:

I do think the set piece defending was decent towards the end. Still reading the offensive chapter though I think.

Have you heard any word on potential replacements? Not asking you to name them if you have, just wondering if we have been lining up replacements or too busy sorting this exit!

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Jakubclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 8:46 pm

Winstonswhite wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:32 pm
Has it been left in that crap a state of affairs? The new managers got a good amount of quality players to work with in the Championship
The sooner we get the new man in all this can be assessed. I think it’s a mess in terms of he’s brought them in the first place & the players have agreed to whatever he’s said or promised & now he appears to be leaving. Confusion & chaos reigns.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by FeedTheArf » Fri May 24, 2024 8:48 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:41 pm
I’d be really shocked if he didn’t take his full team with him, unless he doesn’t rate them either :lol: :lol:

I do think the set piece defending was decent towards the end. Still reading the offensive chapter though I think.

Have you heard any word on potential replacements? Not asking you to name them if you have, just wondering if we have been lining up replacements or too busy sorting this exit!
Moving internationally might mean that the back room team might not actually want to uproot their lives to follow Kompany.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by ClaretTony » Fri May 24, 2024 8:51 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:41 pm
I’d be really shocked if he didn’t take his full team with him, unless he doesn’t rate them either :lol: :lol:

I do think the set piece defending was decent towards the end. Still reading the offensive chapter though I think.

Have you heard any word on potential replacements? Not asking you to name them if you have, just wondering if we have been lining up replacements or too busy sorting this exit!
Prepare to be shocked. I believe he won’t consider Bellamy or Cremers. They would have been gone from Burnley had Kompany stayed.

Nothing at all heard on incoming.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by warksclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 8:56 pm

Anything north of £10m compo is great business. People saying he left us in a mess, but the season has just ended-imagine him leaving near the start of 2024/25 season, having brought in more new faces and got rid of players he could not get on with who were useful to us. A good new manager can sort all this out, and thankfully from what CT says he does not need to adopt existing coaches. This is a win win for us fans and the club.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by JohnMcGreal » Fri May 24, 2024 9:00 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:52 pm
It will be more than 10m pounds
TE...tell you what...tell you what...it's nine and a half million pounds.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by tarkys_ears » Fri May 24, 2024 9:01 pm

I'm a bit worried this won't go through

Mins you, didn't it take him at least a week if not two to sign for us?

Guessing we won't hear anything all weekend now either

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by NewClaret » Fri May 24, 2024 9:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:51 pm
Prepare to be shocked. I believe he won’t consider Bellamy or Cremers. They would have been gone from Burnley had Kompany stayed.

Nothing at all heard on incoming.
Had there been some failings out there? Or had Bellamy done something wrong? Only reason I can think for Bellamy’s early resignation. Would tie in with Sacha’s alleged conversations with Pace.

Thanks on the incomings. Seems very quiet so far. Imagine that’s because we’ve been caught off guard.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Cooclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 9:06 pm

Think CB might have told Kompany that he isn’t the God he thinks he is, speaking up is never good for your career when egos rule the roost.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Goliath » Fri May 24, 2024 9:06 pm

Wasn't Bellamy in charge of the attacking coaching and Jackson the defending?
Possible that VK wasn't happy with our patterns and finishing going forwards and held Bellamy responsible for that?
Could be totally wrong of course.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Aclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 9:16 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:51 pm
Prepare to be shocked. I believe he won’t consider Bellamy or Cremers. They would have been gone from Burnley had Kompany stayed.

Nothing at all heard on incoming.
Might be miles off the mark, but I believe Craig Bellamy has personal issues, perhaps he is taking a break.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Fri May 24, 2024 9:36 pm

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Fri May 24, 2024 7:53 pm
What on earth are you basing that on. Must have been said a million times now, there isn’t a manager under the sun that wouldn’t be jumping at an offer to manager Bayern, never mind one that’s just been relegated with Burnley…
IIRC the Anderlecht top brass weren't overly impressed by the end?

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by CrosspoolClarets » Fri May 24, 2024 9:48 pm

Sometimes the reason so few elite players make good elite managers is because someone else is always to blame, that supreme confidence bordering on arrogance can be a curse as well as a blessing, because it leads to no self awareness..

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by FeedTheArf » Fri May 24, 2024 10:27 pm

bumba wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 9:31 pm
We was warned......

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18982734 ... -nonsense/
Well that came to fruition pretty quickly!
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by NewClaret » Fri May 24, 2024 10:34 pm

FeedTheArf wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 10:27 pm
Well that came to fruition pretty quickly!
Most frustrating thing is I think we were trusting the process and he fooked off before we got to see if it’d have paid off.
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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Buxtonclaret » Fri May 24, 2024 10:43 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 9:36 pm
IIRC the Anderlecht top brass weren't overly impressed by the end?
It wouldn't be a total surprise if those at Munich think similar sometime in the next 12 months.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by PremierLeagueClass » Fri May 24, 2024 10:59 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:58 pm
Do uou really need to ask ? 5 minute phone call and he leaves, the players he has fallen.out with, his sole purpose with us this season was to be a Pep mark 2 but it isn't his fault wecwere relegated it's the players not goodcenough, flooding the squad with players who have to come through his agency etc etc.
Where do I even start with this? First of all, surprised it even took 5 minutes. The call surely won’t have been out of the blue, so you would expect he’d made his mind up beforehand. Just a classic click bait line.

“Sole purpose was to be a Pep mark 2” - do you think he’s the only one trying to emulate one of the most successful managers of all time, and this is meant to be a bad thing? Would you prefer he’d tried to emulate Ted Lasso?

“Players he’d fallen out with” - this happens at every club. Dyche had fallen out with a number of players by the time he went and it’s probably best not to mention Stone. Which players are we saying he’s fallen out with by the way and what are we basing this on? I think only Fofana has commented publicly and beyond that, it’s all hearsay.

“Flooding the squad with players who have come through his agency” - he’s made mistakes this season, absolutely no doubt about it. However, the fault also lies with the board who have allowed the manager to seemingly wield huge influence over recruitment, which is extremely short sighted when Kompany fits the profile so many clubs are chasing in these strange times. The rug has now been pulled from under us and there is a huge challenge ahead.

All that said, there are many in the game that speak very highly of Vincent Kompany. The personal attack you’ve launched against him is unfair, unfounded and quite frankly embarrassing.

We have too many on here that simply can’t put their emotions aside and put forth an objective view. It just becomes tiresome when you see the same intransigent posters coming out with variations on the same spiel to suit their agenda, be it against Kompany, Pace or even JJ Watt. Likewise, you’ve got those that seem to think they can do no wrong. It just destroys the credibility of your posts in my eyes.

It would be nice to see posters re-evaluating their views from time to time, or god forbid, admit they were wrong. For instance, I thought Dwight McNeil would struggle to make it at another Premier League club after we were relegated. He’s certainly done enough to prove me wrong on that one and I’m happy to admit it.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by CnBtruntru » Fri May 24, 2024 11:21 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 8:20 pm
Plettenberg from Sky Germany is suggesting over the weekend at latest. But it needs to be done now to allow us to move on.

Seems that Geers, Ngalula & Jackson are going with him. Ten Rouwelaar is going to Ajax while both Bellamy & Cremers have left Burnley but not going to Bayern. That just leaves us with Bredice and inspirational set piece coach Tybebo.
:lol: :lol: :lol: inspirational my a..e, hopefully them last two are not still around come august, unless they need cleaners.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by Jamesy » Fri May 24, 2024 11:38 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:39 pm
Some Journos told us we spent £110 mill last summer. Most if us knew that was ******** also
Add it up. Of course we spent 110 million. If you look on transfermarket website, a reliable source you will see it is north of 110 million.

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by fidelcastro » Fri May 24, 2024 11:41 pm

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:39 pm
Some Journos told us we spent £110 mill last summer. Most if us knew that was ******** also
How much did we spend then if it wasn't around the 100 million mark?

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Re: Kompany to Bayern Munich?

Post by It Is What It Is » Fri May 24, 2024 11:46 pm

bfcjg wrote:
Fri May 24, 2024 7:47 pm
TBH he's shown his true colours,always wondered why Anderlecht sacked him, there's obviously a very unpleasant, egotistical, greedy two faced man underneath that carefully manufactured media image.
Wow!!! Dont hold back on your thoughts!
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