Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:06 am

Lose the next 2 and I think he’ll ge gone. It’s an appalling start. We are a not going to be attractive to investors with the expectation of defeat every week. We could have employed a far cheaper manager and not spent £100 million to be bottom with 4 points at this stage.
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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by evensteadiereddie » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:10 am

We could but then we'd be like Sheffield United and Luton except we have some cracking young players, an excellent manager and loads of potential.
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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by AfloatinClaret » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:04 am

ebby wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 12:37 am
How many days to Christmas? My prediction that VK would not be around by then could well come true.
But was your prediction that VK would be sacked or poached by a bigger club?

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:39 am

No way will he be going anywhere. And rightly so. Some fans are willing this to happen.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by ebby » Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:23 pm

AfloatinClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:04 am
[quote=ebby post_id=2218867 time=<a href="tel:1699835876">1699835876</a> user_id=338]
How many days to Christmas? My prediction that VK would not be around by then could well come true.
But was your prediction that VK would be sacked or poached by a bigger club?
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Sacked.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by BurnleyFC » Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:38 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:06 am
Lose the next 2 and I think he’ll ge gone. It’s an appalling start. We are a not going to be attractive to investors with the expectation of defeat every week. We could have employed a far cheaper manager and not spent £100 million to be bottom with 4 points at this stage.
It’s been ****, no doubt about it, but that’s a really ruthless way of looking at things, forgetting everything that happened last season so quickly. I’d hope our chairman is better than that.

We have to stick with VK and see the season (and at least half of next season) through regardless.
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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:51 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:39 am
No way will he be going anywhere. And rightly so. Some fans are willing this to happen.
Not even sure they’re fans to be honest.
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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:01 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 1:38 pm
It’s been ****, no doubt about it, but that’s a really ruthless way of looking at things, forgetting everything that happened last season so quickly. I’d hope our chairman is better than that.

We have to stick with VK and see the season (and at least half of next season) through regardless.
These are my views entirely.

Would be the most brain dead thing ever to sack a manager who:

- came to us when the chips were down and he had a massive rebuilding job to do.
- signed a whole new team.
- implemented a new style.
- took us up at the first time of asking.
- stayed when linked to other PL jobs.
- signed a new 5 yr contract before a ball was kicked.
- signed a new team (almost) that he sees as being Prem quality.

That’s two teams he’s signed. That if nothing else proves he can attract very good young players to this small, unfashionable club in windy/rainy North West.

Yes he’s made mistakes. Continues to imo (Muric). But no way on earth should we sack someone off who’s been loyal to us but is also learning themselves. He gets all of this season and next, for me.

I’d like to see him starting to pick a settled team though. Plus Muric.
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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by KRBFC » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:08 pm

ebby wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 4:22 am
Sounds like you’re willing him to fail
To me he is another Stevie or Frank. Good players and talkers but cannot manage.
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Short memories indeed, an absolute genius 12 games later he can’t manage and he’s useless. Do you realise how stupid and fickle that sounds?

And that’s without even taking into consideration the obstacles during those 12 games. Rotten set of home fixtures, injuries to key players in key areas, youngest squad in the league, brand new squad to PL football, manager who isn’t even 40 years old and clearly has a lot to learn.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by AfloatinClaret » Mon Nov 13, 2023 3:30 pm

Came onto the forum and the first thing I see a post from KRBFC that I agree with... I'm off for a lie down.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:30 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 2:01 pm

I’d like to see him starting to pick a settled team though. Plus Muric.
We will definitely have a much better chance of winning if we play with 12 men - including 2 keepers. ;)
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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by NewClaret » Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:33 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:30 pm
We will definitely have a much better chance of winning if we play with 12 men - including 2 keepers. ;)
That was my master plan :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by ashtonlongsider » Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:50 pm

The biggest asset our club has got. If he goes anywhere it will be on his own accord.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:49 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:50 pm
The biggest asset our club has got. If he goes anywhere it will be on his own accord.
Hopefully he can turn it around but he may not and he may go of his own accord either before or if/ when we go down. To think the board won’t sack if they and the investors do not like what they are seeing on the pitch is fanciful. They are businessmen not sentimentalists.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:55 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:50 pm
The biggest asset our club has got. If he goes anywhere it will be on his own accord.
How can you come to that viewpoint?

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:28 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 6:55 pm
How can you come to that viewpoint?
Name a bigger one.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:37 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 7:28 pm
Name a bigger one.
The ground, the training facilities, a handful of multi million pound players?

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:10 pm

Lol

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by k90bfc » Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:42 pm

It is so difficult for all of us,VK built us a smashing joy to watch team last season,never brought any of the key players back,Tella,Harwood Bellis,signed a goalkeeper we did not need,to many wingers we did not need,discarding players who won us the League,Why oh Why is he doing this to us fans,neither wonder why we are baffled in disbelief what he is doing,and in shock,what is happening,UTC.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:05 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 8:10 pm
Lol
Just to make a point I will list a few of the recent managers that have better points per game return than VK in the prem:

Gerrard - 1.18
Lampard - 1.00
Dean smith - 1.18
Hassenhutel - 1.28
Marsch - 1.16
Nathan Jones - 1.07
Gary Neville (not premier league but he’s regularly mocked for his management career) - 1.32
Javi Gracia - 0.97

Vincent Kompany - 0.33

All of the above managers have regularly been mocked on this board for being poor.
What have you seen this season to think VK is our clubs biggest asset?

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by brexit » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:09 pm

ashtonlongsider wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 5:50 pm
The biggest asset our club has got. If he goes anywhere it will be on his own accord.
The biggest asset the club has, the bloke (gerrard?) in the BL who is always reminding the linesman of his duties. He deserves an OBE.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:33 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:05 pm
Just to make a point I will list a few of the recent managers that have better points per game return than VK in the prem:

Gerrard - 1.18
Lampard - 1.00
Dean smith - 1.18
Hassenhutel - 1.28
Marsch - 1.16
Nathan Jones - 1.07
Gary Neville (not premier league but he’s regularly mocked for his management career) - 1.32
Javi Gracia - 0.97

Vincent Kompany - 0.33

All of the above managers have regularly been mocked on this board for being poor.
What have you seen this season to think VK is our clubs biggest asset?
Could you not have picked something less relevant?

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:39 pm

quoonbeatz wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:33 pm
Could you not have picked something less relevant?
How isn’t that relevant?

Performing at this level dictates the value of the asset. It’s literally the most relevant way.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by JMU81 » Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:52 pm

brexit wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:09 pm
The biggest asset the club has, the bloke (gerrard?) in the BL who is always reminding the linesman of his duties. He deserves an OBE.
Geordie fella ? If so my best mates dad 🤣

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by quoonbeatz » Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:28 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:39 pm
How isn’t that relevant?

Performing at this level dictates the value of the asset. It’s literally the most relevant way.
Stats of other managers at different clubs have zero to do with it. Might as well rate their omelette as well while you're at it.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:38 am

quoonbeatz wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 10:28 pm
Stats of other managers at different clubs have zero to do with it. Might as well rate their omelette as well while you're at it.
It’s a barometer of his value as an asset.

Very relevant.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by quoonbeatz » Tue Nov 14, 2023 11:01 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:38 am
It’s a barometer of his value as an asset.

Very relevant.
Nope. It's a barometer of how each of those managers did at different clubs in different circumstances, and has no relevance whatsoever to how valuable an asset Kompany is to Burnley.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by brexit » Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:32 pm

JMU81 wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2023 9:52 pm
Geordie fella ? If so my best mates dad 🤣
Could be he is on the right of the 100 box

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by JMU81 » Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:22 pm

Yes thats him 😀

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by ebby » Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:26 am

Odds now down to 4/1. And Christmas is still a month off!

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Mon Nov 27, 2023 8:38 am

ebby wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:26 am
Odds now down to 4/1. And Christmas is still a month off!
So you have a month to screenshot you're bet. I accept as you claimed you have been far too busy to have done so as yet but seen as you keep logging in to bump this I presume you have a bit more free time to do so.

Look forward to seeing it

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by kentonclaret » Tue Dec 05, 2023 4:31 pm

ebby wrote:
Sun Nov 26, 2023 12:26 am
Odds now down to 4/1. And Christmas is still a month off!
Well, Heckingbottom has scuppered all of those bets. Forget all of the “gone by Christmas” nonsense.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by boatshed bill » Tue Dec 05, 2023 5:16 pm

Are we back on this again? FFS.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by ebby » Sat May 25, 2024 5:47 am

Its taken a while but looks like it is finally happening.
Pity it took so long which ultimately led to relegation.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by roperclaret » Sat May 25, 2024 9:41 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2023 5:38 am
It’s a barometer of his value as an asset.

Very relevant.
Seems that asset was valued at around £15 million quid

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sat May 25, 2024 9:59 am

roperclaret wrote:
Sat May 25, 2024 9:41 am
Seems that asset was valued at around £15 million quid
Let’s be honest, this is daylight robbery. Getting 15m for VK is like winning the lottery.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by roperclaret » Sat May 25, 2024 10:06 am

Not arguing with that but it is the most relevant barometer of value!

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat May 25, 2024 10:14 am

Loving all these ‘look at me I’m right’ types like the events in the last week somehow justifies their ludicrous viewpoint early on last season.

They looked silly then, and they look equally as silly now.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Shaggy » Sat May 25, 2024 10:22 am

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat May 25, 2024 10:14 am
Loving all these ‘look at me I’m right’ types like the events in the last week somehow justifies their ludicrous viewpoint early on last season.

They looked silly then, and they look equally as silly now.
You never look silly when you are correct.

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat May 25, 2024 10:46 am

Shaggy wrote:
Sat May 25, 2024 10:22 am
You never look silly when you are correct.
To predict a sacking and a relegation after a handful of games after a 101 point promotion season is bedwetting stuff, no matter the outcome.
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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by Shaggy » Sat May 25, 2024 2:55 pm

gandhisflipflop wrote:
Sat May 25, 2024 10:46 am
To predict a sacking and a relegation after a handful of games after a 101 point promotion season is bedwetting stuff, no matter the outcome.
Regardless of what spin you want to put on it. The outcome was as predicted.

People need to stop going on about this 101 point season it’s really boring and irrelevant. He was never going to repeat that feat and he knows it himself hence why he’s looking to get out.

101 point season translated into a 24 point season of abject failure and misery. The worst season statistically in our history despite spending record amounts.

What does that tell you? Apart from I told you so of course

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Re: Latest odds on our manager gone by Christmas?

Post by gandhisflipflop » Sat May 25, 2024 3:59 pm

Shaggy wrote:
Sat May 25, 2024 2:55 pm
Regardless of what spin you want to put on it. The outcome was as predicted.

People need to stop going on about this 101 point season it’s really boring and irrelevant. He was never going to repeat that feat and he knows it himself hence why he’s looking to get out.

101 point season translated into a 24 point season of abject failure and misery. The worst season statistically in our history despite spending record amounts.

What does that tell you? Apart from I told you so of course
101 point promotion season is irrelevant in October? Really? Jesus wept

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