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Re: Next manager

Post by beddie » Mon May 27, 2024 11:59 am

morninbob wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 11:25 am
Didn't Jackson play under Moyes at Preston 😉
I think he did. If they got on as player and Manager then Jacko needs to sell the idea to Pace that Moyes would be ideal with his experience, of course Moyes may prefer to have a break for a while.

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Re: Next manager

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon May 27, 2024 12:51 pm

Goliath wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 11:16 am
I thought he was a dreadful manager if I'm honest. The Newcastle game had been coming, he completely overthought it and ended up worrying way to much about their strengths not ours. That led to players out of position and a feeble passive performance.
Yes, after a good start he seemed to totally panic after we lost to a very good Villa side at home, and began making some baffling decisions.(including bringing Kevin Long in!)

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goliath » Mon May 27, 2024 1:05 pm

nil_desperandum wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 12:51 pm
Yes, after a good start he seemed to totally panic after we lost to a very good Villa side at home, and began making some baffling decisions.(including bringing Kevin Long in!)
Yep. I'm pretty sure he put Collins at right back and Roberts right wing for the last game against Newcastle. Positions neither had played all season..Just because he was scared of St Maximin. After he changed it we started to batter them but it was too late.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Mon May 27, 2024 1:08 pm

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Slight movement for Moyes.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goody1975 » Mon May 27, 2024 1:20 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 11:14 am
I don't think Jackson did that well; there was a new manager bounce, but that's it.
That's a bit harsh, he managed eight games (Won 3, Drew 2, Lost 3), he has a striker in the penultimate game that misses an absolute sitter at Villa Park which costs him another win and a centre half that has a brain fart to gift Newcastle a penalty in the final game. Let's not forget the farcical penalty at Spurs where it took them about a week to find a 'handball' that we'd have never got at the other end.

Do I think he's the answer? No but he did a decent job under very trying circumstances.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Mon May 27, 2024 1:21 pm

If Lampard is remotely under consideration then the board don’t know what they are doing. Hopefully not.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Goody1975 » Mon May 27, 2024 1:24 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 1:08 pm
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Slight movement for Moyes.
Someone has probably had a fiver on him.

I think if Leeds are in the market for a manager in the coming days then I see Moyes going to Elland Road and Cooper coming to us.

Just a feeling.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Stockbrokerbelt » Mon May 27, 2024 1:50 pm

Jackson has made it quite clear previously that he does not want a managers job & wanted to go back coaching youngsters but talked into the first team coaching by Kompany.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pearcey » Mon May 27, 2024 1:53 pm

Shrewsbury fans don’t have a good word for Jackson but he seems to be a good coach. Certainly not manager material.

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Re: Next manager

Post by beddie » Mon May 27, 2024 1:55 pm

Why would Leeds part with Farke, they were in a real mess when he took over and he’s turned them around. Had it not been for his team not firing on the day they’d have probably been promoted. I think they’d be foolish to part company with him at this stage.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goody1975 » Mon May 27, 2024 2:02 pm

beddie wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 11:59 am
I think he did. If they got on as player and Manager then Jacko needs to sell the idea to Pace that Moyes would be ideal with his experience, of course Moyes may prefer to have a break for a while.
He definitely did, he was the one who put a massive pin in our bubble after about two minutes in the 0-3 reverse vs PNE in 2000, a game that was sold out over a week in advance (attendance 22,300). Pay on the day and capacity allowing there would have been 30,000+ on that day.

A really good side that Moyes had built there.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon May 27, 2024 2:21 pm

Re Moyes, Leicester will be looking for a new manager soon…

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Re: Next manager

Post by Goody1975 » Mon May 27, 2024 2:27 pm

Swizzlestick wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 2:21 pm
Re Moyes, Leicester will be looking for a new manager soon…
Depends what their board want, fancy football played in the modern progressive way or a guy who will almost definitely keep them up?

Moyes sets his teams up in the best way to win games, not always pretty but highly successful for him, Leicester should have him at number one, two and three on their shortlist.

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Re: Next manager

Post by helmclaret » Mon May 27, 2024 2:30 pm

Cooper 5/4 on Bet Victor.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Swizzlestick » Mon May 27, 2024 2:37 pm

Goody1975 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 2:27 pm
Depends what their board want, fancy football played in the modern progressive way or a guy who will almost definitely keep them up?

Moyes sets his teams up in the best way to win games, not always pretty but highly successful for him, Leicester should have him at number one, two and three on their shortlist.
No definites in football - Moyes took Sunderland down - but he should be high on their shortlist.

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon May 27, 2024 3:25 pm

Stockbrokerbelt wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 1:50 pm
Jackson has made it quite clear previously that he does not want a managers job & wanted to go back coaching youngsters but talked into the first team coaching by Kompany.
I'm not surprised he's had 9 wins from 41 games from his previous appointments... No thanks

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Re: Next manager

Post by CoolClaret » Mon May 27, 2024 3:36 pm

Need to get the new man wrapped up ASAP before other clubs around our level find themselves without a manager.
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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon May 27, 2024 4:12 pm

What's the Forest fan's views on COoper?

I know he was popular, but so was Rosenior for a while, until fans got sick of his crap football.

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Re: Next manager

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Mon May 27, 2024 4:19 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 4:12 pm
What's the Forest fan's views on COoper?

I know he was popular, but so was Rosenior for a while, until fans got sick of his crap football.
https://www.forestforum.co.uk/index.php ... man.49826/

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Re: Next manager

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon May 27, 2024 4:45 pm

I was reading the forum from that link above, and a name popped up - Chris Houghton. A manager who always seemed to be dealt an unfair hand regarding dismissals but tends to do well initially.... Now manager of Ghana.

I'd take him over Lampard.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Fretters » Mon May 27, 2024 5:36 pm

If Leeds pot Farke, I'd have him here. Two Championship titles, a play off final, and we have the players to suit his style.
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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Mon May 27, 2024 5:37 pm

CoolClaret wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 3:36 pm
Need to get the new man wrapped up ASAP before other clubs around our level find themselves without a manager.
or woman

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Re: Next manager

Post by randomclaret2 » Mon May 27, 2024 5:38 pm

claptrappers_union wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 4:45 pm
I was reading the forum from that link above, and a name popped up - Chris Houghton. A manager who always seemed to be dealt an unfair hand regarding dismissals but tends to do well initially.... Now manager of Ghana.

I'd take him over Lampard.
Chris Hughton was sacked as Ghana manager last year.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Mon May 27, 2024 5:42 pm

Haven't read all of this but got a feeling the manager is going to be one or both of these things -

• Someone with a profile

• Someone a bit left-field/a coup

So Lampard and Solskjaer spring to mind. So does Van Nistelrooy who'd also tick the second box.

The St Pauli manager, Fabian Hürzeler, is only thirty-one and has them promoted to the Bundesliga as champions. Highly regarded, smart tactician, but it may be a move too soon and, you'd imagine, he'd now want to manage in the Bundesliga. But I wouldn't be shocked at all if the appointment is someone like that.

All of these names continue the Kompany vibe in one way or another which is what I think, just a gut feeling, will be the aim.

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Re: Next manager

Post by wilks_bfc » Mon May 27, 2024 6:01 pm

Murger wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 1:08 pm
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Slight movement for Moyes.
FFS who’s putting money on Lampard, getting him ti second favourite?

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon May 27, 2024 6:08 pm

I’m convinced there are big names being spoke to that aren’t on the odds yet, names like:

Solskjær
Van nistlerooy
Gattuso

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Mon May 27, 2024 6:20 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 6:08 pm
I’m convinced there are big names being spoke to that aren’t on the odds yet, names like:

Solskjær
Van nistlerooy
Gattuso
I think you're right.

Viera?

Gerrard?

Grosso? World Cup winner. Left Lyon with them bottom of Ligue 1.

Heitinga? Former Netherlands and Everton centre half. Recently left West Ham where he was first team coach and Moyes' assistant.

Not saying these would be good or realistic by the way...!

(Edit - just clocked Viera is at Strasbourg in Ligue 1, that passed me by!)

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Re: Next manager

Post by claptrappers_union » Mon May 27, 2024 6:41 pm

randomclaret2 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 5:38 pm
Chris Hughton was sacked as Ghana manager last year.
Well, there you go. It's funny how a manager can disappear into obscurity; I presumed that was why his name wasn't being mentioned—only a few years ago, he would've been in the mix.

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Re: Next manager

Post by nil_desperandum » Mon May 27, 2024 6:55 pm

Fretters wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 5:36 pm
If Leeds pot Farke, I'd have him here. Two Championship titles, a play off final, and we have the players to suit his style.
Might be wrong, but I don't see Farke being a tough enough character to take the challenging decisions that are needed in the next few weeks to trim the squad, stabilise the club, and instill some well needed discipline.
I do like his style of football, but one has to also recognise that his record at Leeds - once it got tough - is terrible.
Just two wins in the final 9 games (since April 1st) including the play off semi final win against Norwich.
5 pts out of 18 in the last 6 League games.

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Re: Next manager

Post by CatonClaret » Mon May 27, 2024 7:08 pm

Pickles wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 6:20 pm
I think you're right.

Viera?

Gerrard?

Grosso? World Cup winner. Left Lyon with them bottom of Ligue 1.

Heitinga? Former Netherlands and Everton centre half. Recently left West Ham where he was first team coach and Moyes' assistant.

Not saying these would be good or realistic by the way...!

(Edit - just clocked Viera is at Strasbourg in Ligue 1, that passed me by!)

I know you've not suggested it but god help us if we go for Gerrard...

Things have moved fast over the past few days but for me I'd be delighted with Cooper or Moyes, slightly less appealing on Still or Solskjaer but a humongous no to Lampard, Gerrard or Rosenior.

Hopefully all wrapped up by the end of next week to put the speculation to bed and the new manager can get straight to work on sorting this squad out....

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Re: Next manager

Post by 7decades » Mon May 27, 2024 7:16 pm

Where has Craig Bellamy gone?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon May 27, 2024 7:21 pm

Maybe things haven't yet moved on quite as quickly as we are being led to believe.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Mon May 27, 2024 7:23 pm

I would like to hear from VK.
I would like to hear from FC Bayern
I would like to hear from Burnley FC

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Mon May 27, 2024 7:28 pm

Higher Trapp has just checked in a T Mowbray

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Mon May 27, 2024 7:29 pm

CatonClaret wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 7:08 pm
I know you've not suggested it but god help us if we go for Gerrard...

Things have moved fast over the past few days but for me I'd be delighted with Cooper or Moyes, slightly less appealing on Still or Solskjaer but a humongous no to Lampard, Gerrard or Rosenior.

Hopefully all wrapped up by the end of next week to put the speculation to bed and the new manager can get straight to work on sorting this squad out....
Oh yes, definitely not suggesting Gerrard - just trying to second guess the sort of appointment Pace and his mates would want to make.

I'd like Cooper, Moyes or Corberan but excited to see which names appear because I think there'll be some surprises.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Mon May 27, 2024 7:30 pm

Patience isn’t at the forefront when we as Burnley fans are desperate to see us making tracks in sorting the club and the heavily bloated squad out. Unfortunately we need patience, I for one would like to see movement as much as the next fan

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Re: Next manager

Post by GetIntoEm » Mon May 27, 2024 7:33 pm

I'd rather give Paces daughter or JJ Watt a go over Lampard. Dreadful

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Mon May 27, 2024 7:46 pm

I wonder did lampard and kompany play together at City?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Woonderbah » Mon May 27, 2024 7:57 pm

Pickles wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 7:29 pm
Oh yes, definitely not suggesting Gerrard - just trying to second guess the sort of appointment Pace and his mates would want to make.

I'd like Cooper, Moyes or Corberan but excited to see which names appear because I think there'll be some surprises.
Alan Pardoo ?.. that level of surprise ?

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Mon May 27, 2024 7:57 pm

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... oach-view/

Will Still was approached by Kompany at Anderlecht. Suggests he could fit the bill for playing style.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Mon May 27, 2024 8:05 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 7:57 pm
https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... oach-view/

Will Still was approached by Kompany at Anderlecht. Suggests he could fit the bill for playing style.
Feels like he's been linked with Sunderland since Quinn and Phillips were banging them in. Wonder why it hasn't happened yet. Waiting to start work once the season ended? Or for another offer from elsewhere?

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Mon May 27, 2024 8:11 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 6:08 pm
I’m convinced there are big names being spoke to that aren’t on the odds yet, names like:

Solskjær
Van nistlerooy
Gattuso
Hadn’t thought of Gattuso. Was always a huge fan of his.

Davide Ancelotti another ‘big name’ now wanted by Reims.

Any young ‘names’ like this will be a huge risk though and I’m minded that we probably need a safer pair of hands at this juncture.

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Re: Next manager

Post by IanMcL » Mon May 27, 2024 8:15 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 1:21 pm
If Lampard is remotely under consideration then the board don’t know what they are doing. Hopefully not.
Just read the Burnley Express 3/1 odds. NOOOOOOO!!!

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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Mon May 27, 2024 8:16 pm

Woonderbah wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 7:57 pm
Alan Pardoo ?.. that level of surprise ?
Can't imagine how well this would go down in front of the Bob Lord... :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Mon May 27, 2024 8:19 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 8:11 pm
I’m minded that we probably need a safer pair of hands at this juncture.
Could the same have been said the summer Kompany was appointed?

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon May 27, 2024 8:20 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 8:11 pm
Hadn’t thought of Gattuso. Was always a huge fan of his.

Davide Ancelotti another ‘big name’ now wanted by Reims.

Any young ‘names’ like this will be a huge risk though and I’m minded that we probably need a safer pair of hands at this juncture.
There’s just something fitting about a manager we can just chant ‘Ruud!’ To it’s simple enough for us Burnley fans, let’s get van nistlerooy in

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Re: Next manager

Post by Pickles » Mon May 27, 2024 8:22 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 8:20 pm
There’s just something fitting about a manager we can just chant ‘Ruud!’ To it’s simple enough for us Burnley fans, let’s get van nistlerooy in
Burnley fans couldn't/can't pronounce "Wout" properly so I wouldn't be so confident.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Mon May 27, 2024 9:15 pm

Pickles wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 8:22 pm
Burnley fans couldn't/can't pronounce "Wout" properly so I wouldn't be so confident.
Hahaha very good point, the Ian! Ian! Chant from Huddersfield away last season after Maatsen put us 1 up will never be topped
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Re: Next manager

Post by TsarBomba » Mon May 27, 2024 9:20 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Mon May 27, 2024 8:11 pm
Hadn’t thought of Gattuso. Was always a huge fan of his.

Davide Ancelotti another ‘big name’ now wanted by Reims.

Any young ‘names’ like this will be a huge risk though and I’m minded that we probably need a safer pair of hands at this juncture.
Gattuso been linked with a job over in Saudi Arabia.

And he’s batshit crazy.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ervi34 » Mon May 27, 2024 9:50 pm

Nixon says Parker is on the list. Lampard doesn't sound that bad all of a sudden.

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