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Player Care Consultant

Post by ClaretFelix » Wed May 29, 2024 8:10 pm

https://www.skysports.com/football/news ... cial-media

Player Care Consultant involved with Kompany and the first team warned about liking an Islamaphobic post on Social media in the wake of the Hamas attacks

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by ISpeds00 » Wed May 29, 2024 8:11 pm

Bet she's howling now
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Clovius Boofus » Wed May 29, 2024 8:23 pm

Is she now looking for another cub?

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed May 29, 2024 8:25 pm

More info on the BBC:

BBC News - Burnley player care boss warned over social media conduct - BBC Sport
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/ar ... 225g92l2go

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by elwaclaret » Wed May 29, 2024 8:27 pm

Clovius Boofus wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 8:23 pm
Is she now looking for another cub?
Millwall are interested… New Den (not a snipe at a once well deserved reputation… which never crossed my mind).

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Clovius Boofus » Wed May 29, 2024 8:33 pm

Liking stuff like that on social media, when you are in a high-profile role where the media might shine a light, is utterly stupid.
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by HahaYeah » Wed May 29, 2024 8:36 pm

Might be a good idea to get herself a moody online name for in future. Sad but that's how it is.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by CleggHall » Wed May 29, 2024 8:52 pm

A very unwise comment given her ethnicity, best to keep such thoughts private when in a public position

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Quickenthetempo » Wed May 29, 2024 10:43 pm

Clovius Boofus wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 8:33 pm
Liking stuff like that on social media, when you are in a high-profile role where the media might shine a light, is utterly stupid.
High profile role?

Did anyone know who she was until this article?
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by elwaclaret » Wed May 29, 2024 10:58 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 10:43 pm
High profile role?

Did anyone know who she was until this article?
Presumably the players did.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Rileybobs » Wed May 29, 2024 10:58 pm

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 10:43 pm
High profile role?

Did anyone know who she was until this article?
She doesn’t have a role as such. She’s an external consultant.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by dsr » Wed May 29, 2024 11:02 pm

If they don't tell us what it was that she "liked", how can anyone know what to avoid? Let's face it, there are large chunks of Islam that many women are bound to dislike.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Rileybobs » Wed May 29, 2024 11:05 pm

dsr wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 11:02 pm
If they don't tell us what it was that she "liked", how can anyone know what to avoid? Let's face it, there are large chunks of Islam that many women are bound to dislike.
Activity on an X account under Wolfe’s name appeared to ‘like’ a post which stated “Palestinians are an invented people” and “were created to be the biggest Jew haters on Earth”, while she also appeared to ‘like’ a comment which stated “good riddance” to a poet that had been killed in Gaza.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by dsr » Wed May 29, 2024 11:13 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 11:05 pm
Activity on an X account under Wolfe’s name appeared to ‘like’ a post which stated “Palestinians are an invented people” and “were created to be the biggest Jew haters on Earth”, while she also appeared to ‘like’ a comment which stated “good riddance” to a poet that had been killed in Gaza.
Thanks. I'm surprised (especially about the first one) that she got away with just a reprimand. And the second is highly dodgy as well, depending what else the poet might have done apart from writing poetry.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Rileybobs » Wed May 29, 2024 11:17 pm

dsr wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 11:13 pm
Thanks. I'm surprised (especially about the first one) that she got away with just a reprimand. And the second is highly dodgy as well, depending what else the poet might have done apart from writing poetry.
Seemed she was close to Kompany. Perhaps the relationship with BFC will end there.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Wed May 29, 2024 11:34 pm

Do we not employ grown-ups any more.
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Andingle » Wed May 29, 2024 11:39 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 11:17 pm
Seemed she was close to Kompany. Perhaps the relationship with BFC will end there.
Believe she worked with VK at Man.City.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Taffy on the wing » Thu May 30, 2024 1:13 am

Rileybobs wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 11:17 pm
Seemed she was close to Kompany. Perhaps the relationship with BFC will end there.
I think it needs to.
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Suratclaret » Thu May 30, 2024 5:16 am

The insensitivity of some, presumably intelligent people, never ceases to amaze me particularly given the fact that, however tenuous her connection to BFC, there is a significant percentage of those living in the town are Muslim. Hopefully the club will end her involvement
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by fatboy47 » Thu May 30, 2024 6:43 am

Suratclaret wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 5:16 am
The insensitivity of some, presumably intelligent people, never ceases to amaze me particularly given the fact that, however tenuous her connection to BFC, there is a significant percentage of those living in the town are Muslim. Hopefully the club will end her involvement

Strongly agree.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by CleggHall » Thu May 30, 2024 7:14 am

As part of her role she presumably has to care for Moslim players too.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by bfcjg » Thu May 30, 2024 8:16 am

I'm sorry but this is the biggest non story going, she is a consultant so assuming she works for other clubs why link her with us.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Clovius Boofus » Thu May 30, 2024 8:31 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 10:43 pm
High profile role?

Did anyone know who she was until this article?
Do we have to quibble over everything on here?

FYI: She's associated with our club and therefore by default is high profile when it comes to scrutiny regarding social media. The fact that the BBC/Sky Sports News and other media outlets have reported this kind of proves my point. If this was you or me, nobody would have given a toss. Surprised I have to explain this to you, but there you go.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 30, 2024 9:48 am

Andingle wrote:
Wed May 29, 2024 11:39 pm
Believe she worked with VK at Man.City.
She did, she's a City fan and was on VK's testimonial committee. It's been a pattern over the past two years, even the club photographer went and was replaced by someone from City. Been similar in the medical department too I believe.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Foshiznik » Thu May 30, 2024 9:58 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 9:48 am
She did, she's a City fan and was on VK's testimonial committee. It's been a pattern over the past two years, even the club photographer went and was replaced by someone from City. Been similar in the medical department too I believe.
Crikey, Alan Pace and the board really did bend over backwards for VK during his tenure.
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Raconteur » Thu May 30, 2024 10:10 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 9:48 am
She did, she's a City fan and was on VK's testimonial committee. It's been a pattern over the past two years, even the club photographer went and was replaced by someone from City. Been similar in the medical department too I believe.
Sharon Latham(photographer) joined quite early into Kompany’s tenure.

She is a brilliant photographer.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by ClaretTony » Thu May 30, 2024 10:33 am

Raconteur wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 10:10 am
Sharon Latham(photographer) joined quite early into Kompany’s tenure.

She is a brilliant photographer.
Replaced Andy Ford
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by CoolClaret » Thu May 30, 2024 10:44 am

ClaretTony wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 9:48 am
She did, she's a City fan and was on VK's testimonial committee. It's been a pattern over the past two years, even the club photographer went and was replaced by someone from City. Been similar in the medical department too I believe.
Yeah and it's one club that I don't really want anything to do with in all honesty. Can't stand anything about that club from top to bottom.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by atlantalad » Thu May 30, 2024 11:01 am

I have opened the sky sports link and read through. Without prejudice I came across the following

“The definition sets out how Islamophobia is a type of racism that targets expressions of Muslimness or perceived Muslimness. But it is also clear about its limits, including how it is not intended to prevent critique of religious belief, and how the definition is not legally binding”

I was confused as the statement seems contradictory in that one can critique religious belief - even Islam.


Then went to the British Council of Muslims report on ‘Defining Islamophobia’ presented by Baroness Sayeeda Warsi to see if there is a clearer definition. After reading through almost 1/3 of the + 150 page report I am none the wiser.

So, can someone explain in simple terms how you can separate Muslimness from Islamic belief as a faith?

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu May 30, 2024 11:20 am

atlantalad wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 11:01 am

So, can someone explain in simple terms how you can separate Muslimness from Islamic belief as a faith?
Put simply she is happy with the death of thousands because they deserve it for being Muslims even though some of them are not Muslims. Not only are there Christians and Jews there, the IDF can't determine if people actually have any religious beliefs before bombing them.

It's like if an effeminate straight bloke gets beaten up by people because they think he's gay. It's still homophobic.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by atlantalad » Thu May 30, 2024 11:49 am

Daveisaclaret: I understand what you are saying in respect to Ms Wolfe and she was rightly called out for publishing her views.

I am having difficulty in differentiating the definition of Islamophobia in the context of the quote. I understand it may be a question semantics: irrational fear of Islam. But in the quoted statement how does one differentiate Islam from the Moslem identity? See the directly quoted statement in my previous post. The quoted definition is also from the British Council of Moslems report I referred to.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by GetIntoEm » Thu May 30, 2024 11:58 am

the short story is, do not say anything remotely critical about the Palestinian Hamas supports or islam and you're safe. all other religions are fair game and expected to suck it up and take it.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by helmclaret » Thu May 30, 2024 1:36 pm

Raconteur wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 10:10 am
Sharon Latham(photographer) joined quite early into Kompany’s tenure.

She is a brilliant photographer.
Sharon is absolutely top class.
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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Foshiznik » Thu May 30, 2024 1:38 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 11:58 am
the short story is, do not say anything remotely critical about the Palestinian Hamas supports or islam and you're safe. all other religions are fair game and expected to suck it up and take it.
Obviously you've been reading a few too many Daily Mail articles recently but there is a big difference between challenging a religion or someone's beliefs and the intentional prejudice and discrimination against someone for their religion/beliefs.

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Re: Player Care Consultant

Post by Raconteur » Thu May 30, 2024 3:06 pm

helmclaret wrote:
Thu May 30, 2024 1:36 pm
Sharon is absolutely top class.
She is. Being a keen amateur photographer myself, ive been a fan of her work for a few years.
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