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Re: Next manager

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:33 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:24 pm
Serious question. If there are 5 candidates and none of them really impress what does Pace do, stick with Bellamy for now and look at a change nearer Christmas if we are not doing well. That would be my preferred choice.
It is too hypothetical… we do not know who the five are, aside from speculation both wild and due to agent agitation. While I do hope Bellamy remains in the setup I do not necessarily think him taking the team into the new season as a Stop gap measure would suit him, the players or the club and would be potentially resigning the club to a season as a dead rubber. An incoming manager at Christmas would not only have to re-shape the team at the most congested part of the season but have to make any incoming adjustments at a notoriously difficult time to bring in any replacements from without the club they deem necessary.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:38 pm

It could be rubbish but I heard that Corberan is now in the running as a late addition
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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:39 pm

Stockbrokerbelt wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:57 pm
Majority of fans? Might be a small majority on here don’t think anyone can start saying the majority, again dismissing a manager before we even appoint one.😡
Did you not see the vote for the next manager on this website.

Lampard only received 6% , somewhere in single figures , I am not brilliant at maths but I think over 90% not wanting him looks like a majority to me 🤷‍♂️
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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:59 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:39 pm
Did you not see the vote for the next manager on this website.

Lampard only received 6% , somewhere in single figures , I am not brilliant at maths but I think over 90% not wanting him looks like a majority to me 🤷‍♂️
The vote wasn’t directed in a way to produce the conclusion of ‘not wanting him’. It was ‘who do you want as manager’ with people choosing their favourite/ideal candidate. All that says is over 90% didn’t have him as their ideal candidate.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:05 pm

I have a feeling that northeasrclaret would be able to convince himself that the majority of Burnley fans would not want anyone to become the next Burnley manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by brunlea99 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:06 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:39 pm
Did you not see the vote for the next manager on this website.

Lampard only received 6% , somewhere in single figures , I am not brilliant at maths but I think over 90% not wanting him looks like a majority to me 🤷‍♂️
Not quite true - 6% of the people who voted on this website (not sure of the number of subscribers). That does not necessarily mean the majority of Burnley fans.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:07 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:24 pm
Serious question. If there are 5 candidates and none of them really impress what does Pace do, stick with Bellamy for now and look at a change nearer Christmas if we are not doing well. That would be my preferred choice.
That’s a good question and to be honest a very realistic prospect, I’d have thought.

I seem to remember in MtB that Pace spoke about how impressed he was when he spoke to Kompany. I imagine that’s his football philosophy, his knowledge of the game, his attitude, how hard he works, the analysis he does to prepare for each opponent, etc. All that and he was a big name and would be Burnley’s first black manager so help from an image perspective.

I think Kompany ticked a lot of boxes and I just can’t see the candidates so far ticking as many. So maybe he’ll stick father than twist. I wouldn’t be against Bellamy and Jacko being given a shot.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Spijed » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:09 pm

Well at least by watching soccer aid we'll know how we'll line up and perform next season ;)

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:24 pm

Penwortham_Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:38 pm
It could be rubbish but I heard that Corberan is now in the running as a late addition
How much did you lump on him, gone to 5/1 from 25/1

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:24 pm

beddie wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:24 pm
Serious question. If there are 5 candidates and none of them really impress what does Pace do, stick with Bellamy for now and look at a change nearer Christmas if we are not doing well. That would be my preferred choice.
Bellamy is one of the five
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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:25 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:25 pm
Ruud has shortened dramatically in the last few days. Down to 4/1 this morning and now 3/1
Have been ignoring the odds and claiming they’re all irrelevant but since I wouldn’t mind RVN I’ve decided there must be something in this :lol:
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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:32 pm

Don't think anybody should be seen to be 'given a shot'. And why would you want to see someone who has never managed in his life before along with someone else who just shouldn't have bothered?
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Re: Next manager

Post by Roosterbooster » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:33 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:59 pm
The vote wasn’t directed in a way to produce the conclusion of ‘not wanting him’. It was ‘who do you want as manager’ with people choosing their favourite/ideal candidate. All that says is over 90% didn’t have him as their ideal candidate.
So 90% wanted someone else.....

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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:34 pm

My guess at the five is Bellamy, Lampard, Parker, Van Nistelrooy, Corboran.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:35 pm

Bloody hell, just seen your post above, CT. What a frighteningly disastrous appointment that would be. Please don't tell me Pardew is one,too.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:40 pm

Northeastclaret, could I ask you which, if any, possible future manager appointments, is wanted by 50% or more of Burnley fans. If you can't then the majority of Burnley fans, do not want a new manager, according to your assertion that the majority of fans do not want Lampard to manage Burnley, according to said survey.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:43 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:24 pm
How much did you lump on him, gone to 5/1 from 25/1
Interesting….

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Re: Next manager

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:45 pm

If HahaYeah's list of 5 is correct, my choice in order of preference would be, 3rd Lampard, 2nd or 1st Ruud VN or Corberan. Happy with either.
I am not considering any other names only those from that particular list.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:45 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:33 pm
So 90% wanted someone else.....
That’s spot on - it was not a vote to say no to anyone but a vote for who in the list you preferred

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:45 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:40 pm
Northeastclaret, could I ask you which, if any, possible future manager appointments, is wanted by 50% or more of Burnley fans. If you can't then the majority of Burnley fans, do not want a new manager, according to your assertion that the majority of fans do not want Lampard to manage Burnley, according to said survey.
Over 50% of Burnley fans want Dyche back, the around 49% want Stan back. 1% want someone else - but 6 of us know it will be Cifuentes
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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:48 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:24 pm
Bellamy is one of the five
Are you enthusiastic about any of the other 4 CT?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Silkyskills1 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:56 pm

Roosterbooster wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:33 pm
So 90% wanted someone else.....
That's democracy. Everybody gets what no one wants.
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Re: Next manager

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:57 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:48 pm
Are you enthusiastic about any of the other 4 CT?
I wouldn’t assume CT knows the five; Bellamy in the mix makes sense or he would not be in situ.

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Re: Next manager

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:04 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 1:49 pm
The only reaction to a Kompany last season came at Palace. I was amazed how tolerant the fans were towards him in general and was amazed at the show of support at Spurs with relegation confirmed.

Whether supporters want or don’t want the new manager, I’m certain he will be supported. He will as far as I’m concerned. I’d had enough of Kompany and looking forward to the change even if it’s someone I wouldn’t have chosen.

100 percent agree with all of this

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Re: Next manager

Post by Holtyclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:08 pm

elwaclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:57 pm
I wouldn’t assume CT knows the five; Bellamy in the mix makes sense or he would not be in situ.
He would be in situ. Him and mj are employees on contracts and were ‘left behind’ by VK. What else would they do? Walk for nothing or stick around and get paid and then become part of new managers staff or have contracts paid up?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Bowclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:10 pm

I’m surprised that Mark Robins names not come up more.

Done a very good job at Cov with nothing to spend and could also bring O’Hare with him who is a super player.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Squazo » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:19 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:29 pm
:lol: :lol: :lol: Best excuse yet.
he did well at derby and chelsea

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Re: Next manager

Post by elwaclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:20 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:08 pm
He would be in situ. Him and mj are employees on contracts and were ‘left behind’ by VK. What else would they do? Walk for nothing or stick around and get paid and then become part of new managers staff or have contracts paid up?
Sorry not disagreeing with a single word you said there Holty. Not sure if I was meant to?
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Re: Next manager

Post by It Is What It Is » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:28 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:25 pm
Have been ignoring the odds and claiming they’re all irrelevant but since I wouldn’t mind RVN I’ve decided there must be something in this :lol:
RVN imo would be a bloody good appointment.
The modern football club now requires a Big name manager and RVN is known and respected throughout Europe.
In his couple of years at PSV he took them to runners up in the Erediverse and won the Dutch cup.

The Dutchman, lifted the Premier League Title, a League Cup and an FA Cup.

Van Nistelrooy went on to sign for Real Madrid in 2006 and lifted two La Liga titles before he left the Spanish club and went on to play for Hamburg and Malaga.

Now if RVN as I understand has thrown his hat into the ring...AP should really really seriously consider him.

I really cannot see many Claret fans being unhappy if he was our manager.

RVN for me all the way, he's only mid forties as well.

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Re: Next manager

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:28 pm

Squazo wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:19 pm
he did well at derby and chelsea
He did anything but well at Chelsea.
Sacked in his first spell there, returned as interim manager after Potter was potted, achieved 1 win in 11 and a bottom half finish.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Vim Fuego » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:41 pm

Squazo wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:19 pm
he did well at derby and chelsea
Only got both jobs only because he is a name
Average at Derby with good loan players
His last session at Chelsea he became a laughing stock

Given the standards we have set over the past 10 years. He should not even be on the list

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Re: Next manager

Post by randomclaret2 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:51 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:28 pm
RVN imo would be a bloody good appointment.
The modern football club now requires a Big name manager and RVN is known and respected throughout Europe.
In his couple of years at PSV he took them to runners up in the Erediverse and won the Dutch cup.

The Dutchman, lifted the Premier League Title, a League Cup and an FA Cup.

Van Nistelrooy went on to sign for Real Madrid in 2006 and lifted two La Liga titles before he left the Spanish club and went on to play for Hamburg and Malaga.

Now if RVN as I understand has thrown his hat into the ring...AP should really really seriously consider him.

I really cannot see many Claret fans being unhappy if he was our manager.

RVN for me all the way, he's only mid forties as well.
He is 48 next month and has 1 season's experience as a manager.

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:51 pm

Rutgerus Johannes Martinus van Nistelrooy

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/26745701 ... e-manager/

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:22 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:28 pm
He did anything but well at Chelsea.
Sacked in his first spell there, returned as interim manager after Potter was potted, achieved 1 win in 11 and a bottom half finish.
4th in Premier lesgue

FA cup final

Top of champions league group

Not sure any of the others have a better record at that level
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Re: Next manager

Post by summitclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:38 pm

golden days wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:22 pm
4th in Premier lesgue

FA cup final

Top of champions league group

Not sure any of the others have a better record at that level
He's a retired star player. They almost all make crap managers. He's a very average one. He's not what we need.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:49 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 5:39 pm
Did you not see the vote for the next manager on this website.

Lampard only received 6% , somewhere in single figures , I am not brilliant at maths but I think over 90% not wanting him looks like a majority to me 🤷‍♂️
As Brunlea posted, the votes / player ratings are those of a very small percentage of Burnley fans, what’s posted online isn’t generally a true reflection of the entire fan base.

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Re: Next manager

Post by northeastclaret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:00 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 6:05 pm
I have a feeling that northeasrclaret would be able to convince himself that the majority of Burnley fans would not want anyone to become the next Burnley manager.
Not sure how you work that one out because I would be delighted if either Cooper, Robins, Corberan or Moyes etc became manager like many other Burnley fans that are not gullible and attracted by the brand of an ex star player.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Penwortham_Claret » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:21 pm

northeastclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:00 pm
Not sure how you work that one out because I would be delighted if either Cooper, Robins, Corberan or Moyes etc became manager like many other Burnley fans that are not gullible and attracted by the brand of an ex star player.
What’s the attraction to Robins? His stats as a manager aren’t spectacular. I don’t see how you could rate him higher than Parker for example. Genuinely interested, not a dig at all.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Carlos the Great » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:45 pm

Marti Cifuentas name is still there .::don’t dismiss him .. I hope he gets an interview

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Re: Next manager

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:46 pm

Come on down Frank. If he can get England to beat Rest of the World, he can beat anyone.

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Re: Next manager

Post by beddie » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:48 pm

Right Mr Pace, the games over, reveal all please, is it Frank?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:54 pm

Corberans names moved up in the odds.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Guller Bull » Sun Jun 09, 2024 9:55 pm

Frankie contender for manager of the year even before his unveiling.

It’s all downhill from here on in.

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Re: Next manager

Post by golden days » Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:30 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 8:38 pm
He's a retired star player. They almost all make crap managers. He's a very average one. He's not what we need.
So what I've posted just makes him an average manager, not sure how many average managers finish 4th in the premier league, that would actually come to burnley. Which ones of those mentioned has done better?

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretinJapan » Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:37 pm

Ruudi can't fail, la la la la la Ruudi can't fail!

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jun 09, 2024 11:38 pm

ClaretinJapan wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:37 pm
Ruudi can't fail, la la la la la Ruudi can't fail!
That's a pretty disappointing response from someone who lives in the birthplace of Zen Bhuddism

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Re: Next manager

Post by mkmel » Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:56 am

Latest odds please guys?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Andingle » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:55 am


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Re: Next manager

Post by Clive 1960 » Mon Jun 10, 2024 3:55 am

mkmel wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 2:56 am
Latest odds please guys?
Not sure about the odds but top of the list is Lampard who the board are keen on and have spoken to ..

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Re: Next manager

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