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Re: Next manager

Post by Sozturf7 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:07 pm

What would we do, where would we be without this board.

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Re: Next manager

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:10 pm

If it's Bellamy, then we're seriously skint. No other reason. Nothing on his CV to recommend him - would we look at Luton Town's or Sheff Utd's assistant manager for the job?

We wouldn't have to pay him off and he's bankrupt so will be cheap. Beyond that, there's no reason he'd even get an interview.
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Re: Next manager

Post by mdd2 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:10 pm

Many would be bored

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Re: Next manager

Post by Wokingclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:10 pm

clarets1978 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:17 pm
Mullens assistant was Clive Middlemass. Heath was brought back to the club
Brian's second spell, Casper was still assistant to Dobbo at Bury, Arthur Bellamy was his assistant

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Re: Next manager

Post by It Is What It Is » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:12 pm

Bo Henriksen as manager and our new assistant Henrik Jansen is the only combination that appears to make sense as they have both worked together before....another stab in the dark really ...

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Re: Next manager

Post by KernowHouseClaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:38 pm

From everything I've read and seen on here and social media, I'm assuming we are going for a more American coaching structure.
Perhaps Bellamy as first team coach with Jackson and Jensen as assistants, they will be in place whoever comes in. The new 'manager' may well be seen more as a Director of Football/Head Coach role as opposed to Manager.
Probably backed up by a recruitment team similar to Brentford.
The club obviously want to be in a position where when a manager leaves he doesn't take the entire backroom staff with him.
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Re: Next manager

Post by JTClaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:43 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 1:54 pm
Is it more believable then RVN being brought over in JJs jet and already met some of the players?
Not that this sheds any more light, though I did spot a comment on a social media post saying RVN was going to be manager (nothing to be taken seriously) tagging a friend saying 'this will be why he was on our flight'.
So I imagine he has been interiewed, and can't look any further than that.
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:48 pm

beddie wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:03 pm
The worry is what football knowledge do the “others members” actually have? It would not be the right appointment imo. We need a Manager with experience at this level otherwise, well I dread to think.
I wouldn’t exactly trust Pace football knowledge either tbf

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:49 pm

JTClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:43 pm
Not that this sheds any more light, though I did spot a comment on a social media post saying RVN was going to be manager (nothing to be taken seriously) tagging a friend saying 'this will be why he was on our flight'.
So I imagine he has been interiewed, and can't look any further than that.
Where they on JJs private jet to
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Re: Next manager

Post by bartons baggage » Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:50 pm

Re-name this thread as the Thirsty Thread.

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:09 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:10 pm
If it's Bellamy, then we're seriously skint. No other reason. Nothing on his CV to recommend him - would we look at Luton Town's or Sheff Utd's assistant manager for the job?

We wouldn't have to pay him off and he's bankrupt so will be cheap. Beyond that, there's no reason he'd even get an interview.
All managers have to start somewhere, not saying I'd pick him personally over other names that have been linked but maybe he has impressed the board behind the scenes

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Re: Next manager

Post by groove » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:28 pm

It appears that Henrik Jensen was given the job weeks ago, on VK's watch, as a replacement for Bellamy. If he signed at that time, it's possible we are contractually obliged to employ him. If so, this is ridiculous. Up there with the Tresor signing for stupidity.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Holtyclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:44 pm

NottsClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:10 pm
If it's Bellamy, then we're seriously skint. No other reason. Nothing on his CV to recommend him - would we look at Luton Town's or Sheff Utd's assistant manager for the job?

We wouldn't have to pay him off and he's bankrupt so will be cheap. Beyond that, there's no reason he'd even get an interview.
He’s an employee and can either resign or we’d pay him off.

Bankruptcy doesn’t make him cheap, it’s whatever is in his contract.

He’s not my choice but he has in effect had a working interview for two years and forged relationships within the club and has (apparently) been interviewed along with many others.

We’re not skint and what the club has said is it’s not about the cost it’s about the person and they want the right one, hence the formal interview process, appointing interim management and not rushing.
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Re: Next manager

Post by willsclarets » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:45 pm

groove wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:28 pm
It appears that Henrik Jensen was given the job weeks ago, on VK's watch, as a replacement for Bellamy. If he signed at that time, it's possible we are contractually obliged to employ him. If so, this is ridiculous. Up there with the Tresor signing for stupidity.
It's such a mess. Is Bellamy not currently employed then? That said, he seems like a nice fella and wish him all the best

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Re: Next manager

Post by Clovius Boofus » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:48 pm

To be fair, I don't think anyone expected VK to disappear, and certainly not to a top club.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rowls » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:51 pm

If I'd been forced to guess VK's next club at the conclusion of the season, I'd have punted for the Job Club at his local employment exchange centre.

To see him end up at Bayern was a shock to say the least.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Holtyclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:52 pm

groove wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:28 pm
It appears that Henrik Jensen was given the job weeks ago, on VK's watch, as a replacement for Bellamy. If he signed at that time, it's possible we are contractually obliged to employ him. If so, this is ridiculous. Up there with the Tresor signing for stupidity.
We’re at least two coaches light since vk departed, this chap isn’t necessarily the new number two, just a first team quality coach (who obviously knows who the new man is likely to be and has probably been run by the new head coach before his announcement was made).

Slightly odd situation that vk has left staff behind but I’m sure it’ll fall into place.

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Re: Next manager

Post by claret10 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:53 pm

Like everybody- can never be 100% certain that what you are told is true - but I believe Bellamy has been told today that he won't be the next manager of Burnley- if true could see him ending up as Wales manager

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnmark » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:17 pm

Pace has flown out to speak to Bellamy who is on holiday in Majorca - Nixon

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Re: Next manager

Post by Firthy » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:23 pm

The contradictions on this thread make fun reading if nothing else :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by timshorts » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:24 pm

KernowHouseClaret wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:38 pm
From everything I've read and seen on here and social media, I'm assuming we are going for a more American coaching structure.
Well if we need an Offensive Co-ordinator then John Terry should be a shoe in.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Culmclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:24 pm

Hopefully it will be ‘Sorry Craig, I wanted to tell you in person……

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Re: Next manager

Post by claret10 » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:25 pm

Firthy wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:23 pm
The contradictions on this thread make fun reading if nothing else :lol:
What I have been told today involved private jets etc - but must admit if I'd have read Nixon's headline before my conversation I'd have taken that as a positive for Bellamys chances

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Re: Next manager

Post by Targetman » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:26 pm

claret10 wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 5:53 pm
Like everybody- can never be 100% certain that what you are told is true - but I believe Bellamy has been told today that he won't be the next manager of Burnley- if true could see him ending up as Wales manager
Where have you got this information from?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Boss Hogg » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:33 pm

‘What I have been told today ….’ :roll:
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:37 pm

burnmark wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:17 pm
Pace has flown out to speak to Bellamy who is on holiday in Majorca - Nixon
Why waste time to fly out to speak to him, just speak to him at training ground on Monday

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Re: Next manager

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:39 pm

Hopefully this news from Nixon, assuming it's true, means that Pace has decided on a sensible candidate but feels that Bellamy deserves to be told in person that it's not him.

The alternative really doesn't bear thinking about.
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Re: Next manager

Post by HahaYeah » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:40 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:37 pm
Why waste time to fly out to speak to him, just speak to him at training ground on Monday
So he can let him enjoy his holiday.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:41 pm

If it’s Bellamy, I might try and cancel my season ticket ;-)

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Re: Next manager

Post by willsclarets » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:41 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:39 pm
Hopefully this news from Nixon, assuming it's true, means that Pace has decided on a sensible candidate but feels that Bellamy deserves to be told in person that it's not him.

The alternative really doesn't bear thinking about.
Except that information is already on a football messageboard, rendering the gesture empty.

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:43 pm

The article does say he flew out earlier this week while Nixon replied to someone suggesting if it was going to be him, surely it would be done by now, which is a fair comment.
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Re: Next manager

Post by ksrclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:43 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:41 pm
Except that information is already on a football messageboard, rendering the gesture empty.
Fine by me, just as long as he's not getting the gig.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:46 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:43 pm
The article does say he flew out earlier this week while Nixon replied to someone suggesting if it was going to be him, surely it would be done by now, which is a fair comment.
Not if they’ve got contracts etc to sort out.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:47 pm

Did Pace fly out in JJ Watts’ private jet or was JJ using it to transport someone else around?

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Re: Next manager

Post by RicardoMontalban » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:48 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:41 pm
Except that information is already on a football messageboard, rendering the gesture empty.
Just about every conceivable scenario has been posted on here in the last few weeks. In the unlikely event Bellamy is sat next to the pool furiously refreshing UTC to see if he’s got a job, maybe hearing which box Pace has gone for directly from the chairman is the preferred course of events….. before CT posts his article.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:49 pm

Murger wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:46 pm
Not if they’ve got contracts etc to sort out.
Why would they sort the contracts in Mallorca, when pre season training starts on Monday, surely if Bellamy is coming in then Bellamy would be flying in to agree it all
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:50 pm

HahaYeah wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:40 pm
So he can let him enjoy his holiday.
Let him enjoy his holiday and speak to him Monday

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Re: Next manager

Post by willsclarets » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:55 pm

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:48 pm
Just about every conceivable scenario has been posted on here in the last few weeks. In the unlikely event Bellamy is sat next to the pool furiously refreshing UTC to see if he’s got a job, maybe hearing which box Pace has gone for directly from the chairman is the preferred course of events….. before CT posts his article.
It was a throwaway comment, I doubt he's refreshing UTC no but you do often see media releases reporting something that is contradictory to the point of the thing being reported! ie an article about x person telling y person something in a face to face meeting.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:59 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:49 pm
Why would they sort the contracts in Mallorca, when pre season training starts on Monday, surely if Bellamy is coming in then Bellamy would be flying in to agree it all
I didn’t say they’d be sorting them out in Mallorca. He could’ve flown out, told him he had the job and the contract would be sorted on his return.

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Re: Next manager

Post by RicardoMontalban » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:01 pm

willsclarets wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:55 pm
It was a throwaway comment, I doubt he's refreshing UTC no but you do often see media releases reporting something that is contradictory to the point of the thing being reported! ie an article about x person telling y person something in a face to face meeting.
It’s a minefield these days. Well, actually it was a minefield then it turned into whatever is worse than a minefield.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:03 pm

Murger wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:59 pm
I didn’t say they’d be sorting them out in Mallorca. He could’ve flown out, told him he had the job and the contract would be sorted on his return.
Would that really warrant a flight out? Just seems abit much, it’s all extremely weird.

Appoint him interim to start with and then fly out to speak to him again

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rowls » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:05 pm

The Mail are now reporting that RVN is expected to be named sometime soon.

They've been very on the nail with a lot of recent news about the club and I haven't seen them reporting much on other bits of speculation about our search.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Murger » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:05 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:03 pm
Would that really warrant a flight out? Just seems abit much, it’s all extremely weird.

Appoint him interim to start with and then fly out to speak to him again
Agreed. Would be a weird way of doing it. We’ve had every other scenario doing the rounds, 1 more won’t hurt :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:05 pm

Suntan wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 2:48 pm
Only (4) is total nonsense
You are going to have to delete your account or rename your account on here if Bellamy gets appointed

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Re: Next manager

Post by RVclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:07 pm

Rowls wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:05 pm
The Mail are now reporting that RVN is expected to be named sometime soon.

They've been very on the nail with a lot of recent news about the club and I haven't seen them reporting much on other bits of speculation about our search.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -side.html

This article? All it’s doing is quoting others. Nothing of their own in there.

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Re: Next manager

Post by eastcoastclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:17 pm

burnmark wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 6:17 pm
Pace has flown out to speak to Bellamy who is on holiday in Majorca - Nixon
Pace flying to Majorca to tell Bellamy he had the job, then saying I'll see you Monday morning for training.
Nobody really believes that do they.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Bosscat » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:27 pm

RicardoMontalban wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:01 pm
It’s a minefield these days. Well, actually it was a minefield then it turned into whatever is worse than a minefield.
Would that be a minefield in a minefield then in case the 1st minefield didn't work 🤔
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Re: Next manager

Post by helmclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:53 pm

Rowls wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:05 pm
The Mail are now reporting that RVN is expected to be named sometime soon.

They've been very on the nail with a lot of recent news about the club and I haven't seen them reporting much on other bits of speculation about our search.
‘The Mail…’

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:06 pm

Rowls wrote:
Fri Jun 21, 2024 7:05 pm
The Mail are now reporting that RVN is expected to be named sometime soon.

They've been very on the nail with a lot of recent news about the club and I haven't seen them reporting much on other bits of speculation about our search.
It doesn’t appear that those working on the sports desk at The Mail have the confidence to profit from their scoop by placing bets on RVN since his price today has been on the drift (now 4/1 with Bet Victor).

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Re: Next manager

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jun 21, 2024 8:28 pm

I won't believe any rumours about the new manager unless and until a prospective Conservative party candidate slams a few quid on a name.
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