Next manager

[123EasyasBFC]

Paperwork. Was done last week. Be announced this week. Good appointment imo

Here you are joining on on the in the know news, was only 2 weeks ago you said we were getting robins

[123EasyasBFC]

Kompany come in with no experience in England being a manager, he had no experience of championship football at all, he also took over a team that had been relegated and lost 16 plus player's, he became manager with all that and only 38 day's until the start of the season.

This new manager will have a better and bigger squad and around a similar time scale until the season starts if he's named before the 3rd of July.

Kompany with no squad no championship experience and only 38 days to prepare for the start of the season didn't to to bad did he, like I said people need to chill out whats the rush

Kompany was appointed 14th June, just because kompany came in and rebuilt a squad and walked the league doesn’t mean we can do similar again.

It’s only normal for fans to think it’s vitally important to have a full time manager/head coach starting pre season

[AGENT_CLARET]

Kompany was appointed 14th June, just because kompany came in and rebuilt a squad and walked the league doesn’t mean we can do similar again.

It’s only normal for fans to think it’s vitally important to have a full time manager/head coach starting pre season

Yes he was appointed on the 14th of June but the season started on the 29th of July, 38 days later

So similar time scale if we name the new manager on or before the 3rd of July 38 days before this season starts, we still got 9 day's to reach that 38 days so why the panic I don't remember all this before Kompany was named and we had a massive rebuild unlike now.

"kompany came in and rebuilt a squad and walked the league doesn’t mean we can do similar again"

It also doesn't mean we can't.

We have an assistant manager in we also have Bellamy and Jackson ect to take Pre season

[RVclaret]

Kompany come in with no experience in England being a manager, he had no experience of championship football at all, he also took over a team that had been relegated and lost 16 plus player's, he became manager with all that and only 38 day's until the start of the season.

This new manager will have a better and bigger squad and around a similar time scale until the season starts if he's named before the 3rd of July.

Kompany with no squad no championship experience and only 38 days to prepare for the start of the season didn't to to bad did he, like I said people need to chill out whats the rush

As has just been pointed out, he was appointed on 14th June, we are now on the 24th with players due back today, with a caretaker and his replacement leading. The idea of pre-season is for a manager (particularly new) to set new standards, sort out the squad and start implementing his ideas. I’d hope by week 2 of pre season at the very latest there is someone confirmed.

[123EasyasBFC]

Yes he was appointed on the 14th of June but the season started on the 29th of July, 38 days later

So similar time scale if we name the new manager on or before the 3rd of July 38 days before this season starts, we still got 9 day's to reach that 38 days so why the panic I don't remember all this before Kompany was named and we had a massive rebuild unlike now.

"kompany came in and rebuilt a squad and walked the league doesn’t mean we can do similar again"

It also doesn't mean we can't.

We have an assistant manager in we also have Bellamy and Jackson ect to take Pre season

Which is all well and good, we could again.

What I’m saying is its is a really valid reason to want a manager in before pre season starts.

You can make player sales but you can’t really bring players in until you have a manager

[AGENT_CLARET]

As has just been pointed out, he was appointed on 14th June, we are now on the 24th with players due back today, with a caretaker and his replacement leading. The idea of pre-season is for a manager (particularly new) to set new standards, sort out the squad and start implementing his ideas. I’d hope by week 2 of pre season at the very latest there is someone confirmed.

From the 3rd of July he'd have the same time scale Kompany had to get the players ready for the start of the season, this season starts around 11 days later than the one Kompany took over, if we don't appoint a new manager until mid to late July I'd be a little concerned but no now

[Pearcey]

Here you are joining on on the in the know news, was only 2 weeks ago you said we were getting robins

At least one is actually an agent.

[willsclarets]

It's reassuring to know the board have recruited several members of UTC to assist in appointing our new manager.

[BurnleyFC]

It’s set up beautifully for Alan and Dave to take over.

[123EasyasBFC]

Paperwork. Was done last week. Be announced this week. Good appointment imo

When it doesn’t happen, and after all the ‘I’ve heard’ or ‘I’ve been told comments’ will you delete your account?

[dougcollins]

Although a short article, I found the statement that RVN has ‘compiled a database of young players who he feels will be good enough for Burnley at bargain basement prices'

And what happens to all those we're currently lumbered with?

[Pearcey]

Today’s day I reckon. They’ll be videos of RVN smashing in goals during training later!

[Tackler49]

Never noticed the RVN thread i would never have posted the above thread if i had, I know should have gone to Specsavers What a waste of time at 01.05 am 🥸

[clarets1978]

Yes he was appointed on the 14th of June but the season started on the 29th of July, 38 days later

So similar time scale if we name the new manager on or before the 3rd of July 38 days before this season starts, we still got 9 day's to reach that 38 days so why the panic I don't remember all this before Kompany was named and we had a massive rebuild unlike now.

"kompany came in and rebuilt a squad and walked the league doesn’t mean we can do similar again"

It also doesn't mean we can't.

We have an assistant manager in we also have Bellamy and Jackson ect to take Pre season

Would it not be better to appoint a new manager as soon as possible, giving that person as much time as possible, rather than saying 38 days is fine. We shouldn't be starting preseason with caretakers when there's been so much time in between with little distraction other than this important matter. Should also be pointed out that the rebuild wasnt in place for the 29th July and was continuing all the way until the deadline (look how late we signed Beyer & Zaroury)

[clarets1978]

Curious question on the visa thing and its a long shot. He'd been at United for 5 years previously which would have made him eligible for a uk passport. Assuming he applied for one, would he need a visa now and would it still apply post brexit?

[123EasyasBFC]

Curious question on the visa thing and its a long shot. He'd been at United for 5 years previously which would have made him eligible for a uk passport. Assuming he applied for one, would he need a visa now and would it still apply post brexit?

Kompany had been at city for nearly 10 years and needed one

[dsr]

Would it not be better to appoint a new manager as soon as possible, giving that person as much time as possible, rather than saying 38 days is fine. We shouldn't be starting preseason with caretakers when there's been so much time in between with little distraction other than this important matter. Should also be pointed out that the rebuild wasnt in place for the 29th July and was continuing all the way until the deadline (look how late we signed Beyer & Zaroury)

They could appoint a manager in the next 10 minutes if they wanted to. It's a trade-off between getting a manager quickly, and getting the right man for the job which takes time. Only results will show whether they got the right balance.

[Goody1975]

Would it not be better to appoint a new manager as soon as possible, giving that person as much time as possible, rather than saying 38 days is fine. We shouldn't be starting preseason with caretakers when there's been so much time in between with little distraction other than this important matter. Should also be pointed out that the rebuild wasnt in place for the 29th July and was continuing all the way until the deadline (look how late we signed Beyer & Zaroury)

Yes we should but better to appoint the right person rather than rush it to a deadline.

As for signings, that would be the case for any manager. The majority of deals are completed in the week leading up to the deadline, with many in the final few hours.

We have a very good squad for Championship level, there will still be a reasonable turnaround of players but we already have the basis of a promotion winning squad.

If we are asking the same questions next Monday then I'm sure more people will start to have doubts.

[dsr]

Curious question on the visa thing and its a long shot. He'd been at United for 5 years previously which would have made him eligible for a uk passport. Assuming he applied for one, would he need a visa now and would it still apply post brexit?

If he has a UK passport then he won't have a visa. But why would he have a UK passport?

[Suntan]

I've said this before; what if circumstances dictate that we can't make an announcement just yet?

But this doesn't mean that said manager can't be working away in the background; analysing current squad, putting prospective names forward, giving the coaches ideas on training and discussing tactics.

And if the model is changing slightly from what we had under Kompany in appointing a Head Coach rather than Manager then this puts us in an even stronger position as we have the coaching team already in place.

[AlargeClaret]

He didn’t say they were totally unfit, he said they weren’t fit enough. That was clear to everyone.

For the record Tony , he said “ nowhere near fit enough “ which is a somewhat different emphasis .

[Goliath]

For the record Tony , he said “ nowhere near fit enough “ which is a somewhat different emphasis .

They weren't. That doesn't mean they had bad cardiovascular fitness. They just didn't have the fitness to play the style of play being asked of them at the top level, it was quite obvious from watching it. The evidence was there for all to see so I'm not sure why you're taking such issue with the comment.

[AGENT_CLARET]

Would it not be better to appoint a new manager as soon as possible, giving that person as much time as possible, rather than saying 38 days is fine. We shouldn't be starting preseason with caretakers when there's been so much time in between with little distraction other than this important matter. Should also be pointed out that the rebuild wasnt in place for the 29th July and was continuing all the way until the deadline (look how late we signed Beyer & Zaroury)

Yes In an ideal world we'd appoint a new manager the day Kompany left but it's never an ideal world, my point is Kompany took over with 38 days until the season started and he had a total team rebuild to do and it took around 10 weeks into the season to be fully up and running, we're around 47 days away from the start of this season with a squad of players with over 1100 games experience in the championship and some on here are running around like headless chickens because we've not named a manager yet. This is a better situation than the start of 2022 and that turned out fine, some fans need to chill we can't do anything about it, let the club get on with it and enjoy the sunshine

[Stockbrokerbelt]

It looks like AP has been reading the usual experts on this thread & is wondering why appoint a professional coach when there’s plenty of know it alls on here.

[Murger]

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[RVclaret]

I've said this before; what if circumstances dictate that we can't make an announcement just yet?

But this doesn't mean that said manager can't be working away in the background; analysing current squad, putting prospective names forward, giving the coaches ideas on training and discussing tactics.

And if the model is changing slightly from what we had under Kompany in appointing a Head Coach rather than Manager then this puts us in an even stronger position as we have the coaching team already in place.

What circumstances could dictate this? Please elaborate.

[123EasyasBFC]

What circumstances could dictate this? Please elaborate.

Suntan at it again with his rubbish but hasn’t got the confidence to just say

[AGENT_CLARET]

What circumstances could dictate this? Please elaborate.

Waiting for his work visa to clear, it takes 21 days after after job offer/interview

[ClaretTony]

For the record Tony , he said “ nowhere near fit enough “ which is a somewhat different emphasis .

and they weren't

[mdd2]

If he has a UK passport then he won't have a visa. But why would he have a UK passport?

Why not? My son has UK USA and Swedish passports. Avoids potential problems when you know you may need to work in UK or other country where you are eligible for citizenship. Doesn't cost much.Not all countries allow you to have dual nationality eg India.

[123EasyasBFC]

Waiting for his work visa to clear, it takes 21 days after after job offer/interview

Suntan isn’t referring to RVN they have been referring to a manager currently employed

[123EasyasBFC]

Why not? My son has UK USA and Swedish passports. Avoids potential problems when you know you may need to work in UK or other country where you are eligible for citizenship. Doesn't cost much.Not all countries allow you to have dual nationality eg India.

RVN hasn’t lived in the for 18 years, highly doubt he has a UK passport

[dsr]

Waiting for his work visa to clear, it takes 21 days after after job offer/interview

I doubt that would stop them announcing it. We've announced signings before (eg. Luton Shelton) that ultimately got turned down for visa reasons.

[gandhisflipflop]

Waiting for his work visa to clear, it takes 21 days after after job offer/interview

So if that’s the case, no announcement this week then (assuming that they had the interviews the week before)

[burnley007]

I doubt that would stop them announcing it. We've announced signings before (eg. Luton Shelton) that ultimately got turned down for visa reasons.

I think they've learned from that though. It would be unprofessional to announce him before all paperwork is sorted.

[Wokingclaret]

Or his head has been turned by United

[ClaretTony]

If we appoint a new manager/head coach and his employment is subject to us receiving a work permit, there is nothing to stop us announcing it as they did at other clubs.

Brighton
We are pleased to confirm that Fabian Hürzeler will become our new men’s first-team head coach. Fabian has agreed a contract until June 2027. Once his work permit is processed, he will begin work straight away, ahead of the squad returning for pre-season preparations in July.

Hull
Hull City are delighted to confirm the appointment of Tim Walter as the club’s new head coach. The 48-year-old German has signed a three-year deal and will officially take over at the MKM Stadium on 1 July, subject to obtaining a visa.

[HahaYeah]

Or his head has been turned by United

I'm feeling a bit tense now.

We could have let the other applicants know - thanks but no thanks, then Man U stick their oar in.

Though I would like to think Ruud would want to be a number one here than just a staff member there.

All this if he is the front runner of course.

[123EasyasBFC]

I'm feeling a bit tense now.

We could have let the other applicants know - thanks but no thanks, then Man U stick their oar in.

Though I would like to think Ruud would want to be a number one here than just a staff member there.

All this if he is the front runner of course.

He’s not front runner, suntan said it himself that pace wouldn’t want the ‘sulky Dutchman’ and they said the new manager is currently employed. You have to understand suntan is extremely in the know

[Tresor'sTracksuit]

RVN didn't fail at PSV so I'm pretty sure he'd rather be the main guy rather then a coach at Utd no matter how big they are. If Ruud is ambitious he'll choose to be a manager. If he had failed at PSV it may be different. The only part that concerns me is he fell out with the owners there. But he might have had good reason to.

[Wokingclaret]

RVN didn't fail at PSV so I'm pretty sure he'd rather be the main guy rather then a coach at Utd no matter how big they are. If Ruud is ambitious he'll choose to be a manager. If he had failed at PSV it may be different. The only part that concerns me is he fell out with the owners there. But he might have had good reason to.

I do like your user name

[Suntan]

He’s not front runner, suntan said it himself that pace wouldn’t want the ‘sulky Dutchman’ and they said the new manager is currently employed. You have to understand suntan is extremely in the know

If you're going to quote someone at least quote them correctly please!

[123EasyasBFC]

If you're going to quote someone at least quote them correctly please!

Did you not write ‘sulky Dutchman’ last night?

[ecc]

This thread is even more irritating the the twice-yearly transfer threads.

Must admit you've got that right and my God the bar was set high.

[AGENT_CLARET]

If we appoint a new manager/head coach and his employment is subject to us receiving a work permit, there is nothing to stop us announcing it as they did at other clubs.

Brighton
We are pleased to confirm that Fabian Hürzeler will become our new men’s first-team head coach. Fabian has agreed a contract until June 2027. Once his work permit is processed, he will begin work straight away, ahead of the squad returning for pre-season preparations in July.



Hull
Hull City are delighted to confirm the appointment of Tim Walter as the club’s new head coach. The 48-year-old German has signed a three-year deal and will officially take over at the MKM Stadium on 1 July, subject to obtaining a visa.

Different clubs do different thing's, They all don't work the same way do they Just because that's how Hull and Brighton announce it we don't need to do the same

[ClaretTony]

Different clubs do different thing's, They all don't work the same way do they Just because that's how Hull and Brighton announce it we don't need to do the same

I didn’t suggest we did need to

[Steddyman]

This would be such a shame:

https://x.com/m_wijffelsAD/status/1805210411723018310

[mdd2]

Ruud van Nistelrooij is about to return to his old club Manchester United. The former striker is in talks with the English top club to work as assistant manager under head coach Erik ten Hag.

[123EasyasBFC]

Bad day for all these wannabe in the know people

[mdd2]

If this is true then maybe Alan needs to start again?