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[Goody1975]

Comparing the squad from 2022 to the one we have now is like comparing apples with oranges.

The gulf between the Championship and Premier League is vast, in fact it's a chasm.

Nobody can know how the squad from the promotion season would have done in the Premier League and the same can be said (at this stage) for how last seasons team would have fared if it was playing Championship opposition.

The amount of money spent was by our standards substantial and the net gains weren't what we were hoping for but to suggest the squad is weaker after the transfer business last summer is nonsense.

If we signed Tella, THB and Maatsen on top of the fee we paid for Beyer then there'd be very little left from the £100 million anyway.

[morninbob]

4/6 now...

[roperclaret]

Tarks Cork Pope Mc Neill … they all suited the style Dyche wanted to play. None of them would have got into our championship winning team under Kompany.

Tarks and McNeil would

[Goody1975]

just been asking a Danish guy about Kasper Hjumland - he said "He is very much looking for a payday, good coach for the most part however the Danes fell flat on their face at the World Cup and when the press asked him why things went so poorly he refused to come out with a straightforward answer". I then asked if he thought he would leave the national team after this Euros and he said "It's very possible he will leave. If we beat Germany then the Danish FA might want to try and keep him for the next World Cup but there is no way they can complete with Burnley on salary"

If the Germans win tonight then I'm sure he will be questioned on his future, whether or not he is asked about his next move and specifically about us is another matter.

The Danish press may not even be aware of a discussion on a message board, for fans of a club in a small town in East Lancs.

[Blyclaret]

No they wouldent. That’s why Mee wasent offered a contract. Kompany dident want him.

[NewClaret]

Maybe but I don’t think so

Just my view but when you look at the clubs our players left for - Newcastle, Wolves, WHU and Everton - I think there’s a good chance many in our current squad will play at the same level or higher in future. In Trafford’s case, that seems imminent actually. In others, whether it’ll be direct from us like Kompany, or via other clubs, will depend on how bad our finances really are and Pace’s desire to hold out for the big sales, in my view. Time’ll tell, either way.

[123EasyasBFC]

If the Germans win tonight then I'm sure he will be questioned on his future, whether or not he is asked about his next move and specifically about us is another matter.

The Danish press may not even be aware of a discussion on a message board, for fans of a club in a small town in East Lancs.

I agree regardless of the odds and result I think question marks over his future at Denmark would be there anyway, 3 tournaments, they would probably discuss plans for World Cup qualification, transition of players and so on

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Just bumped into Richard Keys and Andy Gray who are out drinking in Rawtenstall and both said watch this space about the Danish manager with a mischievous glint in their eyes. Make of that what you will.

[Selby Claret]

Tarks Cork Pope Mc Neill … they all suited the style Dyche wanted to play. None of them would have got into our championship winning team under Kompany.

I’m assuming you missed the 39 appearances Cork made in the championship winning team under Kompany

[Vegas Claret]

If the Germans win tonight then I'm sure he will be questioned on his future, whether or not he is asked about his next move and specifically about us is another matter.

The Danish press may not even be aware of a discussion on a message board, for fans of a club in a small town in East Lancs.

aye, but interesting that the Denmark fan reckons he will go after this tournament

[Steddyman]

How about this guy? I bet he could do a job

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2024/06/29 ... over-news/

If we want Hjulmand we better get a move on. The last team linked with signing him was Everton, right before they brought in Dyche.

[Goody1975]

aye, but interesting that the Denmark fan reckons he will go after this tournament

A lot depends on results.

They win tonight and that could change.

[Roosterbooster]

Kasper being the Burnley manager, they compared with it Southgate being the manager of Bromley.

Sounds about his level

Great news

[DCWat]

But on the flip side of that Tony we've got better players currently in the squad compared to say 15/20 years ago. But that agenda doesn't suit the old guard that want to return to " high hoof , low talent" football ...........some very bitter posters that are quickly forgetting our last foray in the championship and only concentrating on the car crash of last season.

Point me in the direction of one poster who wants to return to “high hoof, low talent football”.

A concern around what we spent last year (including the club finances) and the players that we take with us into a tough championship season, is hardly a surprise, given how poor last season was.

Whether the players that we have now are better than 15/20 years ago is irrelevant to this coming season, in the championship. The league has moved on a long, long way since then.

[Rileybobs]

He is either a brilliant interviewer or has a great agent.

Promotion from League One with Swansea, gets Premier League Wigan job.

Relegates Wigan, gets Everton job at a time when Everton had a decent team and spending money.

Fails at Everton and gets Belgium job with their golden generation of players.

Fails at Belgium and gets the Portugal squad with the unbelievable squad that they have.

I wouldn’t go so far as to say he failed at Belgium. He achieved their best ever World Cup finish in 2018 when they finished third.

[Hibsclaret]

There are players in the squad now that would never have been anywhere near the squad if it wasn’t for the last manager. Koleosho and Odebert for example are exciting talents that have helped us reduce the age of a squad whilst giving it growth potential beyond anything we have seen in previous years.

It is pretty much impossible to reduce squad age so quickly without the odd bump in the road and so to compare this to the likes of Tarks and McNeil or the trio that were on loan and not even our players in the last Championship season is not good.

[NewClaret]

I’d still really like Kjetil Knutsen.

It’s a big surprise to me that he’s never been linked at all with our focus on data and his win record at Bodo Glimt.

[NewClaret]

There are players in the squad now that would never have been anywhere near the squad if it wasn’t for the last manager. Koleosho and Odebert for example are exciting talents that have helped us reduce the age of a squad whilst giving it growth potential beyond anything we have seen in previous years.

It is pretty much impossible to reduce squad age so quickly without the odd bump in the road and so to compare this to the likes of Tarks and McNeil or the trio that were on loan and not even our players in the last Championship season is not good.

Agree with all. If we could get Odobert or Koleosho crossing anywhere near as well as McNeil though, we’d have two unbelievable talents. That’s what they both need to work on now if they want to be wide players. I don’t really feel Kompany developed the wide players crossing ability as much as I’d have liked.

[Vegas Claret]

A lot depends on results.

They win tonight and that could change.

not if it's about money, he earns less than 1 million and we would more than likely double that

[louieollie]

What’s 15/20 years got to do with it?

About as much as comparing a championship team to a premiership team imo!

[ClaretTony]

About as much as comparing a championship team to a premiership team imo!

We’ve been discussing the last two years with us debating whether we are stronger or weaker now than then. We all have different views. If you’d looked at the debate and discussion you might not have posted about 15-20 years ago which is totally irrelevant

[Tricky Trevor]

I don’t really feel Kompany developed the wide players crossing ability as much as I’d have liked.

Not sure if it was him or them but modern wingers always feel they have to take a man on. Many’s the time they are in space can look up, see 1 or 2 in the box but refuse to take the easy ball and wait for the FB to close them down. By which time everybody is touch tight in the box and the FB is cutting out crossing angles.
Early balls every time puts defenders out of the game.

[louieollie]

Our last foray into the Championship and the car crash of last season featured two very different sets of players.

This coming season will feature even fewer of the players that were with us in the 22/23 season.

If posters are concentrating on the car crash of last season, it's not because of bitterness, it's because that's all we have to judge most of our players on.

But with that then you are judging players that were asked to do almost everything that felt wrong to do by a man (with hindsight) on his own path to success!. Until we get who ever we are after through the door I think it's misguided and somewhat unfair on the players to be judge as failures.

[ClaretTony]

Some good news in the betting - Southgate has dropped to 66/1.

[dougcollins]

Not very impressed with how Denmark have played in the tournament, but they're still there.

Its not what you'd call an appointment to get you excited.

Not me, anyway. The ones who miss Dyche may be more excited.

[ClaretTony]

Not very impressed with how Denmark have played in the tournament, but they're still there.

Its not what you'd call an appointment to get you excited.

Not me, anyway. The ones who miss Dyche may be more excited.

If he is to be the manager then I’ve previously said I don’t really know anything about him. But if whoever comes in is as successful as Dyche then I’m sure we will all be delighted.

[Carlos the Great]

Not very impressed with how Denmark have played in the tournament, but they're still there.

Its not what you'd call an appointment to get you excited.

Not me, anyway. The ones who miss Dyche may be more excited.

I would suggest for you to be happy .. lower your expectations a touch

[Carlos the Great]

Not very impressed with how Denmark have played in the tournament, but they're still there.

Its not what you'd call an appointment to get you excited.

Not me, anyway. The ones who miss Dyche may be more excited.

I would suggest for you to be happy .. lower your expectations a touch

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Past appointments who weren’t particularly exciting on paper such as Mullen, Coyle and Dyche ended up doing well so fingers crossed.

Waddle was exciting and was a complete disaster.

[ksrclaret]

But with that then you are judging players that were asked to do almost everything that felt wrong to do by a man (with hindsight) on his own path to success!. Until we get who ever we are after through the door I think it's misguided and somewhat unfair on the players to be judge as failures.

I don't judge the players as complete failures, but I do think that we now need an experienced manager to come in and begin to unpick their losing habits and mentality. Those suggesting that promotion next season is a mere formality are struggling to differentiate between real life and football manager again.

To be successful, it will involve slimming the squad down to reasonable number which might enable a proper team spirit to be found, it will involve setting high standards of discipline and attitude, and it will involve brining in some experienced players to lead the dressing room. None of that was done by the manager last season and the result was the car crash season that you've described very well.

[dougcollins]

I would suggest for you to be happy .. lower your expectations a touch

Believe me, my expectations are pretty low.

[BurnleyFC]

Not very impressed with how Denmark have played in the tournament, but they're still there.

Its not what you'd call an appointment to get you excited.

Not me, anyway. The ones who miss Dyche may be more excited.

I know it’s not necessarily the best benchmark, but they’ve played better football than England for starters.

[123EasyasBFC]

Not very impressed with how Denmark have played in the tournament, but they're still there.

Its not what you'd call an appointment to get you excited.

Not me, anyway. The ones who miss Dyche may be more excited.

If hjulmand is indeed the manager, I can’t imagine the set up for Germany in the euros is the same as how he would set up for Oxford at home.

The 23 unbeaten Burnley dyche team certainly weren’t boring to watch

[boatshed bill]

Not very impressed with how Denmark have played in the tournament, but they're still there.

Its not what you'd call an appointment to get you excited.

I'm not sure we should base our expectations of a potential Championship manager on the performance of his national team

[louieollie]

I don't judge the players as complete failures, but I do think that we now need an experienced manager to come in and begin to unpick their losing habits and mentality. Those suggesting that promotion next season is a mere formality are struggling to differentiate between real life and football manager again.

To be successful, it will involve slimming the squad down to reasonable number which might enable a proper team spirit to be found, it will involve setting high standards of discipline and attitude, and it will involve brining in some experienced players to lead the dressing room. None of that was done by the manager last season and the result was the car crash season that you've described very well.

I couldn't agree more

[dougcollins]

I'm not sure we should base our expectations of a potential Championship manager on the performance of his national team

I have to when it's my only experience of judging his work first hand.

I'm watching it right now.

[dougcollins]

I was until the game was stopped for electrical storms.

[KRBFC]

If he is to be the manager then I’ve previously said I don’t really know anything about him. But if whoever comes in is as successful as Dyche then I’m sure we will all be delighted.

Dyche will get sacked at Everton soon, the fans don’t like him and the new owners won’t want him.

[boatshed bill]

I have to when it's my only experience of judging his work first hand.

I'm watching it right now.

It's not a great point of comparison, but if you must.....

[NewClaret]

Some good news in the betting - Southgate has dropped to 66/1.

Today has been a quiet day on the manager front but some good news has emerged at least

[South West Claret.]

Dyche will get sacked at Everton soon, the fans don’t like him and the new owners won’t want him.

Really who told you that?

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Dyche will get sacked at Everton soon, the fans don’t like him and the new owners won’t want him.

What has that got to do with his success at Burnley?

[100percentclaret]

If hjulmand is indeed the manager, I can’t imagine the set up for Germany in the euros is the same as how he would set up for Oxford at home.

The 23 unbeaten Burnley dyche team certainly weren’t boring to watch

They were

[Venkys4eva]

Really who told you that?

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2024/06/29 ... over-news/

[Carlos the Great]

Dyche will get sacked at Everton soon, the fans don’t like him and the new owners won’t want him.

Everton fans genuinely think they should be in the top 4 so are disappointed every season .: Dyche has done a good there I think with points deductions and off the pitch distractions of ownership ::Dyche Will always get a job if he is to be replaced by new owners

[exilecanada]

I was until the game was stopped for electrical storms.

I do believe that's the first time I've seen a game stopped because of an electrical storm.

[South West Claret.]

https://www.goodisonnews.com/2024/06/29 ... over-news/

Thanks for the link V.

“He has also created a fantastic relationship with the fans during his time at the club and if he were to be sacked for no reason other than the owner wanting a shiny new toy in charge it would be a bad decision.”

No evidence of supporters being unhappy with Dyche in that article.

[Joe14]

Will he miss next match??

[Pearcey]

Dyche will get sacked at Everton soon, the fans don’t like him and the new owners won’t want him.

Only the fans that put pretty and spineless premier league football over success.

[ClaretTony]

No evidence of supporters being unhappy with Dyche in that article.

The only evidence is coming from our own Everton anti-Dyche correspondent KRBFC whose opinion seems to be at odds with the general view of Evertonians.