Absolutely.
Should hurry things along, if there's owt in it.
loan, latest rumour was he's off to Fulham and turned us down
You should just paste that
Must admit I think they have a decent starting eleven. Not sure there squads particularly great.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:17 pmTo win this tournament whoever it is will need to beet Germany. Very strong squad
Bound to be very strong contenders.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:24 pmMust admit I think they have a decent starting eleven. Not sure there squads particularly great.
They a very strange side, I think they look great in flashes but I think they were very fortunate today.
Not really against popular opinion, they’re one of the favourites, but thought they rode their luck tonight before the VAR madness and Denmark will feel a bit hard done to.boatshed bill wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:26 pmBound to be very strong contenders.
Against popular opinion, but I think we will be in the mix.![]()
I think she’s brilliant, her explanation of how these things are determined was something we don’t often hear. The fact she knows the current interpretation of the rules and can explain it so well really contributes to the coverage. In summary you can’t blame the ref or the VAR officials for any of the decisions as they’ve applied the current interpretation of the rules perfectly. Whether you agree with those interpretations is another matter!
Ex FIFA ref - knows the rules and tries to justify themVegas Claret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:30 pmwho is this American lady on ITV talking about the rules ?
Did my head in. Probably the most irritating commentator I have ever heard.Winstonswhite wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:37 pmThe woman rules expert on itv explains everything brilliantly. A load of b@llocks, but she explains it brilliantly.
She’s explaining the rule and why the decision was made. Whether you agree with the rule or how IFAB want to interpret it, is a completely different discussion.
ok cheers, not someone I've come across before, I thought she did explain things well and concur with your last point ! It sounds like she does tooLincsWoldsClaret wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:40 pmEx FIFA ref - knows the rules and tries to justify them
Not her fault the rules have totally spoilt the game.
They didn't. They have the decisions as told to them by the VAR people. BUt and it's a big but the two contentious decisions and very contentious they were, were not given by the onfield official in real time. VAR has ruined the game. An offside toe? Come in? Did you ever play football?
Yes I’ve played football all my life and I still do, but that’s irrelevant. You mocked my post where I said that 2 minute period was very well officiated, particularly when you consider the pressure the officials would have been under, the number of factors they had to consider and the speed they came to the correct decisions. I wouldn’t have expected either decision to have been given by the onfield assistants as the first was literally an inch offside, and the second was a very slight hand ball with the AR on the opposite side of the pitch.Stayingup wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:49 pmThey didn't. They have the decisions as told to them by the VAR people. BUt and it's a big but the two contentious decisions and very contentious they were, were not given by the onfield official in real time. VAR has ruined the game. An offside toe? Come in? Did you ever play football?
If you genuinely believe that - their are only 3 possibilities’
You’re forgetting possibility 4 which is that I’m right.Goalposts wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:57 pmIf you genuinely believe that - their are only 3 possibilities’
1 you have no understanding or appreciation of the game whether having played or not
2 you have no understanding of the spirit of the game are how it should be played
3 you blindly support the decision making or action regardless of points 1 or 2
Same and same.Nonayforever wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:42 pmStopped watching the match after those 2 VAR decisions.
I very rarely watch any match now other than Burnley purely because of those types of incidents.
The ref, linesman and players didn't see anything wrong with the first goal but VAR tried to find 3 faults in order to rule the goal out.
Nonsense.
If you need enlightening nothing and i mean nothing will change your mind . I’m a big fan of mark twain in these regards
What's so ridiculous is that someone in VAR Towers has looked at incidents like the disallowed goal and decided that allowing goals like that is spoiling the game. Quite genuinely, they must believe that 6 years ago (when that would have been given as a goal as "level", there would be a majority of football fans going home disappointed because they suspected that the man might have been a half inch offside.
I’m not really interested in Mark Twain, or Shania for that matter. I just want someone to explain how the officials got the decisions wrong, bearing in mind that is what I’m being condescended for. You can keep evading the question but it’s not really strengthening your argument.
My understanding is that officials in this tournament were told to deem the arm to be in an unnatural position if it is above the horizontal. I may well be wrong and would be happy to hold my hand up (below the horizontal just to be safe) if so. I turned off after the game so haven’t seen the coverage but what did ITV’s ‘laws of the game expert’ think?
Same old, same old. EUFA & FIFA will always get the result they want. From the CL & EL to the International tournaments year after year teams will get stuffed by officialdom to get the chosen side through. Look at the outrageous decision to disallow BMs equaliser at RM(the most chosen side).Nonayforever wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:42 pmStopped watching the match after those 2 VAR decisions.
I very rarely watch any match now other than Burnley purely because of those types of incidents.
The ref, linesman and players didn't see anything wrong with the first goal but VAR tried to find 3 faults in order to rule the goal out.
Nonsense.