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Re: Euro 2024

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:41 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:39 pm
Kane frustrates the hell out of me for England.

All time record goalscorer my arse. He’s not fit to lace Charlton’s, Lineker’s or Rooney’s boots.
Rooney’s tournament record was pretty awful. Certainly worse than Kane’s.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:43 pm

Dyched wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:37 pm
I’m not sure a lot of this is even GS doing. He’s can’t be telling HK, drop deep, far post crosses to BS. :lol:

Foden, Saka and Kane off.
Palmer, Gordon and Watkins on.
You must be kidding. This is all down to aSouthgate’s team selection and system
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by ElectroClaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:43 pm

Ht and hope.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:44 pm

we are playing this like a pre-season kick about, the urgency has to come from the players

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by expoultryboy » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:44 pm

So Why's that not a second booking ?

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BurnleyFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:45 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:41 pm
Rooney’s tournament record was pretty awful. Certainly worse than Kane’s.
Yes, it was fairly poor, although he was electric in his first tournament until he got injured (Euro 2004?)

He was still a miles better player than Kane ever will be, though.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:45 pm

No need to panic don’t you realise we’re in the easy half of the draw? :roll:

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Dyched » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:46 pm

GS needs to really think here at HT.

45 mins and basically you’re sacked if it remains like this. You’re never gonna get another job at this level.

Roll the nice and gamble, we’re heading out anyway.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BobSykes » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:46 pm

100% this is down to Southgate just like every other England disappointment in the last several years. All his doing. Thank goodness he'll be gone after this but what another wasted tournament.

Embarrassing.
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:46 pm

I’d be pulling Walker and putting Trippier on that side, and hope that Luke Shaw is fit enough to last a half. That along with Palmer and Gordon on for Foden and Saka. We’re looking really impotent
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by hoskinsgoalatswansea » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:47 pm

I wonder what the tactical genius Southgate will do at half time. Will he ditch this ridiculous 2 holding midfielders and go for it, or just make a like for like sub?

Hmm… I wonder

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BobSykes » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:49 pm

Southgate will think we've been well on top , should lbe 3-1 up and the goals will come. So may not change anything.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:50 pm

Dyched wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:46 pm
GS needs to really think

45 mins and basically you’re sacked if it remains like this. You’re never gonna get another job at this level.

Perhaps he’ll fancy dropping down to the Championship :oops:

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by HahaYeah » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:50 pm

Turgid tactics and poor quality from the players.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:50 pm

BobSykes wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:49 pm
Southgate will think we've been well on top , should lbe 3-1 up and the goals will come. So may not change anything.
This is, unfortunately, likely to be extremely accurate

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Tricky Trevor » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:51 pm

If we were to manage to get through the ridiculous booking of Bellingham, he played the ball, could cost dear if he were to get another.
At major tournaments all bookings should be reviewable post-match.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:52 pm

Well nobody can be surprised at the outcome so far

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by LincsWoldsClaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:52 pm

C’mon Gareth we need more defenders.

After 99 games we’re still lacking basic organisation

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:52 pm

Well nobody can be surprised at the outcome so far

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:53 pm

BobSykes wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:49 pm
Southgate will think we've been well on top , should lbe 3-1 up and the goals will come. So may not change anything.
He seemed to think we played well in the last game when no one else did.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:53 pm

We'd be quite good if we could find replacements for Kane and Trippier.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Caballo » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:53 pm

Awful from Walker, got to hook him, Saka totally ineffective, Foden largely ineffective, and as for Kane, jesus!!

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Caballo » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:53 pm

Awful from Walker, got to hook him, Saka totally ineffective, Foden largely ineffective, and as for Kane, jesus!!

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:53 pm

We'd be quite good if we could find replacements for Kane and Trippier.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:53 pm

BobSykes wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:49 pm
Southgate will think we've been well on top , should lbe 3-1 up and the goals will come. So may not change anything.
He seemed to think we played well in the last game when no one else did.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:53 pm

Well nobody can be surprised at the outcome so far

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:53 pm

We'd be quite good if we could find replacements for Kane and Trippier.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Murger » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:55 pm

BurnleyFC wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:39 pm
Kane frustrates the hell out of me for England.

All time record goalscorer my arse. He’s not fit to lace Charlton’s, Lineker’s or Rooney’s boots.
I’d take a prime Shearer over Kane, anyday.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:55 pm

Excelling himself, is Gareth.
Few managers on his pay grade could be given the talent he has to pick from and produce this garbage.
Hapless, hopeless, & totally out of his depth.
Something he's consistently shown throughout his managers life.
I blame Fat Sam for this.
He scared the crap out of the Suits and they've just went for someone who wouldnt spoil the conversation on their dinner circuits.
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:56 pm

That's the most disorganised sack of sh!t I've ever seen from an England team. Like someone said earlier, like watching Burnley last year you know it's going to be crap but nothing seems to change.
Time for Gareth to use all the experience he used in relegating Middlesborough now to change everything round.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vino blanco » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:56 pm

That's the most disorganised sack of sh!t I've ever seen from an England team. Like someone said earlier, like watching Burnley last year you know it's going to be crap but nothing seems to change.
Time for Gareth to use all the experience he used in relegating Middlesborough now to change everything round.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by dougcollins » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:58 pm

We've been sh!te for three games.

I don't know why anyone thought it would be any different when virtually the same team is sent out.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by AmbleClaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:58 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:45 pm
No need to panic don’t you realise we’re in the easy half of the draw? :roll:
Plenty on here yesterday saying we'll walk over Switzerland. We won't get the opportunity at this rate,thankfully.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:59 pm

Countries like Austria, Switzerland play like teams that are working together and organised.

England are a collection of individuals with no real structure.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by South West Claret. » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:00 pm

Appallingly predictable football 1st half they must get forward much much quicker.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:00 pm

Roy Keane, speaking about that and our supposed quality has just said: “Quality is no good unless you have a fight and desire to win a game of football.”

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by dougcollins » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:01 pm

Walking football.

It's all Pep's fault.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Goalposts » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:02 pm

4 subs. - Watkin’s palmer gordon and Trent on for me

Off kane - rice - trippier. - saka

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by expoultryboy » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:02 pm

Unfortunately you maybe right Amble . This is embarrassing . It does make you wonder what the hell has been going on in training ??

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by fatboy47 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:02 pm

Goalposts wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:27 pm
First time in this comp that our defence has been truly tested
It really isnt you know.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:02 pm

AmbleClaret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:58 pm
Plenty on here yesterday saying we'll walk over Switzerland. We won't get the opportunity at this rate,thankfully.
Well, I certainly wasn’t one of them and I rate Austria in the same category as Switzerland.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:02 pm

Is anyone really surprised. The England team dont care and its showing, Not once has Southgate barked at them. None of the Slovakia team get into the England team, and we were still favorites to win the tournament, but they are outplaying us.
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by aclaretinstevenage » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:02 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:00 pm
Roy Keane, speaking about that and our supposed quality has just said: “Quality is no good unless you have a fight and desire to win a game of football.”
And he is exactly right Tony!

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by RVclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:02 pm

As I’ve been saying since before the tournament, and during it, the issues lie in England's build up. Rice isn’t good enough to progress the ball quickly through the lines, Walker is absolutely terrible at it and Trippier, well I don’t need to say much. You’ve got Kane; Foden and Bellingham who all want the ball between the lines but no one to get it to them quickly. Mainoo in the team doesn’t change this as he can’t do it either. Wharton and Trent are right there, as is Gomez who played half the season at left back for Liverpool.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Billyblah » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:03 pm

dougcollins wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:58 pm
We've been sh!te for three games.

I don't know why anyone thought it would be any different when virtually the same team is sent out.
THREE games? I seem to recall that Iceland..... ICELAND for goodness sake....beat us at Wembley sometime back!
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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Elizabeth » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:03 pm

The thing is we are not shocked at that first half performance. It’s what everybody believed would happen if Southgate did not make proper changes.

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Juan Tanamera » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:03 pm

Gareth Suffogate. 🤬

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:04 pm

I'd take Rice off for Wharton, Foden off for Gordon, Palmer on for Saka. Give it 10 mins then take Kane off for Watkins because at least he will make runs

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by Greekclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:04 pm

Zero subs!!! WOW

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Re: Euro 2024

Post by BobSykes » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:04 pm

No subs as i predicted

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