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Re: Next manager

Post by DanH90 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:29 pm

CrosspoolClarets wrote:
Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:11 pm
No idea if this rumour about the Danish manager is kosher but regardless this is a deep article from him. It gives a clue what makes him tick and what may make him attractive to some owners - identity, sustainability, diversity etc.

Also drops in that lightening incident that probably made many Danish players twitchy earlier.

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/posts ... cup-soccer
This is a good read and actually makes me more excited about Hjulmand as a potential option. Really like what he said about developing a vision before a playing style. What makes Burnley Burnley. It strikes me that this was lost last season under Kompany, and the style over substance that many of our players showed created a disconnect with the supporters. Hjulmand May return us to the fundamentals of hard work, grittiness and passion that Burnley fans need to see over any patterns of play, tactical set up etc.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hapag Lloyd » Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:30 pm

Guller Bull wrote:
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Water bed is the way to go. Always blame the leakage on a leakage.
Start another thread on waterbeds 😉
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Re: Next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:09 pm

People were linking the hiring of Jensen with Hjulmand already being our man. But has anyone considered that with Jensen already in post before VK left he may have had some input into managerial suggestions and could have put Hjulmand‘s name forward.

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:14 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:09 pm
People were linking the hiring of Jensen with Hjulmand already being our man. But has anyone considered that with Jensen already in post before VK left he may have had some input into managerial suggestions and could have put Hjulmand‘s name forward.
I also thought that too, then Jensen could long term become head coach, wasn’t Thomas frank a coach at Brentford before becoming head coach

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rileybobs » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:17 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:14 pm
I also thought that too, then Jensen could long term become head coach, wasn’t Thomas frank a coach at Brentford before becoming head coach
There may be absolutely nothing in the links with Hjulmand, but if he is appointed I don’t think it would be a pure coincidence that our head coach and assistant are both Danish.

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Re: Next manager

Post by brexit » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:18 pm

mkmel wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:25 am
Sean Dyche was one of our top 2 managers of all time.

Did a brilliant job while he was our manager while having financial restrictions.

We have a lot to thank him for.
I agree, just making the point that Southgate and Dyches styles seem to be similar. And to be fair, both manage to get results. So from our next manager, do we want pragmatic, dull but ultimately successful football or entertaining football that may get us relegated?

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:25 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:17 pm
There may be absolutely nothing in the links with Hjulmand, but if he is appointed I don’t think it would be a pure coincidence that our head coach and assistant are both Danish.
I agree, someone like Nixon covering his back saying Jensen was already coming in after saying he didn’t think there was anything to the links to start with

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:45 pm

Parker is obviously being backed this afternoon gone from 7/1 to 2/1 and hjulmand is drifting to almost evens from 4/7

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rowls » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:10 pm

This odds malarkey is great fun.

It's like those "Grand National" horse racing machines you used to get in the arcades. It gives the illusion that the "leader" is constantly changing when the truth is it's pre-determined from the start.
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Re: Next manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:15 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:45 pm
Parker is obviously being backed this afternoon gone from 7/1 to 2/1 and hjulmand is drifting to almost evens from 4/7
Perhaps the bookies have changed the odds to try and lure some mug punters in to a market that very few will have an interest in?

Not obvious to me that Parker is being backed and if he has , the money will be minimal.

Poor indicator these markets, not sure if it has been mentioned before.

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Re: Next manager

Post by South West Claret. » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:32 pm

At least Parker has won the championship twice but there again Kompany has won it as well… tricky.

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Re: Next manager

Post by kentonclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:47 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:10 pm
This odds malarkey is great fun.

It's like those "Grand National" horse racing machines you used to get in the arcades. It gives the illusion that the "leader" is constantly changing when the truth is it's pre-determined from the start.
As is the illusion that some punters are having “big bets” when the truth is that Sky Bet and others have a £20 or £30 staking limit on these novelty markets.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Blyclaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:52 pm

Lots money going on Parker today 6/4 now with the Dane

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:53 pm

kentonclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:47 pm
As is the illusion that some punters are having “big bets” when the truth is that Sky Bet and others have a £20 or £30 staking limit on these novelty markets.
The maximum stake with Sky Bet is £167. Small stakes move these markets anyway, hence the movement has been all over the show and best not to have taken too much notice especially in the early stages.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:56 pm

Can’t get enthusiastic whatsoever about the thought of Parker being our boss.

Don’t want him.

Any actual updates today?

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Re: Next manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:59 pm

Blyclaret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:52 pm
Lots money going on Parker today 6/4 now with the Dane
How much is lots?

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:04 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:59 pm
How much is lots?
Too much

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:05 pm

So when Parker goes to same odds as hjulmand it’s just bookies and them trying to lure punters but when hjulmand went to odds on everyone said ‘there’s defo something in this’
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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:06 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:53 pm
The maximum stake with Sky Bet is £167. Small stakes move these markets anyway, hence the movement has been all over the show and best not to have taken too much notice especially in the early stages.
They don’t move them that much, I put. Tenner on corberan when he was 12/1 last week and it didn’t move at all

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Re: Next manager

Post by ClaretTony » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:08 pm

Rileybobs wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:09 pm
People were linking the hiring of Jensen with Hjulmand already being our man. But has anyone considered that with Jensen already in post before VK left he may have had some input into managerial suggestions and could have put Hjulmand‘s name forward.
I would think extremely unlikely

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Re: Next manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:09 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:05 pm
So when Parker goes to same odds as hjulmand it’s just bookies and them trying to lure punters but when hjulmand went to odds on everyone said ‘there’s defo something in this’
Everyone?

That sounds like the "we all know it's Lampard" line :lol:

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:13 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:09 pm
Everyone?

That sounds like the "we all know it's Lampard" line :lol:
Everyone a loose term.

Yeah for a good week everything pointed to Lampard, he’s had longest stint as bookie’s favourite out of the 6 names that have been there

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Re: Next manager

Post by NewClaret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:50 pm

My god I hope we’re not waiting for Southgate.

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Re: Next manager

Post by burnley007 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:52 pm

NewClaret wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:50 pm
My god I hope we’re not waiting for Southgate.
Don't even f##king think of it.

Terrifying prospect.

The guy is a buffoon
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Re: Next manager

Post by Steddyman » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:04 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 5:05 pm
So when Parker goes to same odds as hjulmand it’s just bookies and them trying to lure punters but when hjulmand went to odds on everyone said ‘there’s defo something in this’
We have discussed this loads, bookies don't set the odds to lure bets. Bookies odds are purely baseds on how much money is wagered on a manager. The more money goes on one, the lower the odds go so they don't end up paying out a fortune. It is just a mathamatical model to guarantee they win when all the bets together are taken into account.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Rick_Muller » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pm

Francesco Calzona Anyone?

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Re: Next manager

Post by bumba » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:05 pm

It Is What It Is wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:13 pm
Yes but we didn't have a billion pound squad and 115 financial charges against the club
Money can't buy experience

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Re: Next manager

Post by Conroysleftfoot » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:08 pm

Looks like it could be Southgate folks.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Bangers&Mash » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:44 pm

Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink is about to be out of a job…
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Re: Next manager

Post by Rowls » Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:54 pm

brexit wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 2:18 pm
I agree, just making the point that Southgate and Dyches styles seem to be similar. And to be fair, both manage to get results.
I had to make myself a cuppa tea just to spit it out after reading this.
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Re: Next manager

Post by Mattster » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:09 pm

Rowls wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:54 pm
I had to make myself a cuppa tea just to spit it out after reading this.
Indeed, horrible take. In most ways they are polar opposites. Only similarities are reluctance to make substitutes and tendency to sit on a narrow lead.
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Re: Next manager

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:42 pm

Hedontplayforyou wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:56 pm
Can’t get enthusiastic whatsoever about the thought of Parker being our boss.

Don’t want him.

Any actual updates today?
Seriously underwhelmed with either Parker or Southgate.

Surely such a long drawn-out process doesn't spit out these two as our main candidates?

I would take Bellamy or Rosenior ahead of those two.

I know Parker has won the Championship but he doesn't inspire me with confidence, he doesn't come over well in TV interviews, so goodness knows how he has got so far in this marathon process.

I would prefer to leave it as is with Bellamy, Jackson and the Danish fella to work it out between themselves.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:44 pm

Why do people still think Bellamy is an option, beggars belief

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Re: Next manager

Post by TsarBomba » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:47 pm

I can’t see it being Bellamy or Parker, purely because we would’ve given them the job by now, surely?

Unless we’re revisiting the shortlist because our 1st/2nd choices etc have fallen through…

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:47 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:44 pm
Why do people still think Bellamy is an option, beggars belief
Because he's one of the favourites with the bookies and multiple articles in the media say he's an option being considered by the Board.

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:50 pm

taio wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:47 pm
Because he's one of the favourites with the bookies and multiple articles in the media say he's an option being considered by the Board.
No experience at all , how do you know he’s being considered?

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Re: Next manager

Post by taio » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:53 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:50 pm
No experience at all , how do you know he’s being considered?
I wasn't commenting on his experience or ability for the job. I was simply answering your question on why people think he is an option. I don't know for certain but I think it's fairly obvious as per my previous post.

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Re: Next manager

Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:56 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:44 pm
Why do people still think Bellamy is an option, beggars belief
"Beggars belief"

I've not been on here for a while and the last time I heard that phrase was on here in about 2018 ;)

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:58 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:56 pm
"Beggars belief"

I've not been on here for a while and the last time I heard that phrase was on here in about 2018 ;)
Heard , where’s that option on here ?
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Re: Next manager

Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:00 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:56 pm
"Beggars belief"

I've not been on here for a while and the last time I heard that phrase was on here in about 2018 ;)
There's loads of vernacular rarely used elsewhere, Billy. :D
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Re: Next manager

Post by NL Claret » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:12 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 6:04 pm
We have discussed this loads, bookies don't set the odds to lure bets. Bookies odds are purely baseds on how much money is wagered on a manager. The more money goes on one, the lower the odds go so they don't end up paying out a fortune. It is just a mathamatical model to guarantee they win when all the bets together are taken into account.
This maybe correct for a market on a horse race or another live event, the next Burnley manager betting is what they call a novelty market. Guaranteed win for the bookies, for example, Paddy Power’s max win on such a market is £500 per punter which is calcualted on the odds when the bet is placed. This next Burnley manager sky bet market is such a poor indicator.

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Re: Next manager

Post by louieollie » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:19 pm

Sod that lets get the Georgian manager in 😁

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Re: Next manager

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 8:30 pm

After that England comeback I’m feeling all patriotic, get Scott Parker in tomorrow

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Re: Next manager

Post by jos » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:43 pm

T minus 10

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Re: Next manager

Post by Hedontplayforyou » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:58 pm

jos wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:43 pm
T minus 10
Mental this thread

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Re: Next manager

Post by Longsider » Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:59 pm

TsarBomba wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:47 pm
I can’t see it being Bellamy or Parker, purely because we would’ve given them the job by now, surely?

Unless we’re revisiting the shortlist because our 1st/2nd choices etc have fallen through…
I agree. Unless Bellamy needs to get visa clearance for being Welsh. Swansea passport office is notoriously slow. 😉

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Re: Next manager

Post by KRBFC » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:10 pm

Casper2 wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 7:50 pm
No experience at all , how do you know he’s being considered?
The manager who lifted the Championship title last season had no prior experience

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Re: Next manager

Post by claretskeith » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:10 pm

Longsider wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 9:59 pm
I agree. Unless Bellamy needs to get visa clearance for being Welsh. Swansea passport office is notoriously slow. 😉
Aren't you someone who has contacts - can you give us a pool of 12 we can fight over?

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Re: Next manager

Post by Casper2 » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:11 pm

KRBFC wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:10 pm
The manager who lifted the Championship title last season had no prior experience
You really posted this , wow

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Re: Next manager

Post by Longsider » Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:21 pm

claretskeith wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:10 pm
Aren't you someone who has contacts - can you give us a pool of 12 we can fight over?
Think you might be confusing me with someone else Keith. I don't have contacts, other than my lenses from spec savers. However, I'll take the left lense out, go into a transcendental state and predict.......... the Danish lad.

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