Next manager

[ksrclaret]

Rosenior maybe but what makes you want Lampard over Parker?

I don’t want Parker either but Parker is a much better option than Lampard

Just my personal opinion. Parker’s football is anodyne at best and he’s left his previous jobs with barely a good word from anyone, despite achieving promotions, which I do appreciate is pretty important.

Lampard gets a lot of stick but I’d find it easier to get behind him and his football.

[kentonclaret]

We walked the championship with Barnes 6 goals and Rodriguez 10 goal's you don't necessarily need a 20 a season striker

Weghorst CURRENTLY at the club that's why I put him

OK we definitely need a 17 goal striker like Tella then.
During that season Tella and Benson added a further 29 goals to those provided by Rodriguez and Barnes.

[123EasyasBFC]

Just my personal opinion. Parker’s football is anodyne at best and he’s left his previous jobs with barely a good word from anyone, despite achieving promotions, which I do appreciate is pretty important.

Lampard gets a lot of stick but I’d find it easier to get behind him and his football.

Appreciate your opinion, too me neither Parker or Lampard have an actual style they play, I’m not sure either of them are actually there yet tactically

[Grimsdale]

Rumours that Bellamy is meeting the FAW today about the Wales job so we might be left with Parker as Hobson's choice. Or, seeing as it's Burnley, maybe it should be called Dobson's choice.

[Venkys4eva]

Rumours that Bellamy is meeting the FAW today about the Wales job so we might be left with Parker as Hobson's choice. Or, seeing as it's Burnley, maybe it should be called Dobson's choice.

I would take parker who is a proven championship manager over Bellamy with his zero managerial experience. Lets hope he sods off to Wales .

[kentonclaret]

Rumours that Bellamy is meeting the FAW today about the Wales job so we might be left with Parker as Hobson's choice. Or, seeing as it's Burnley, maybe it should be called Dobson's choice.

A tug of war for Bellamy eh?

Who could ever have imagined it

[NewClaret]

Volume yes, but really?

Obafemi - Scored two in 14 on loan at Millwall
Rodriguez - 35 in a few days time and whilst still a decent sub option, unlikely to be more than that these days
Foster - Excellent up until about Christmas, absolutely terrible after that and always going to be a question mark over his reliability due to his documented mental health issues.
Amdouni - I still expect him to go, but if not, yes - he should be very good in this division. He will need to work harder though.
Koleosho - A winger, coming back from an ACL, we have no clue what goalscoring qualities he has really. He is an exciting player and you'd hope he will tear it up from that side.
Weghorst - Come on, really! He will be long gone by the season kicking off.

It really depends what system a new manager plays. I think assuming a single striker we’re fine. And as you say then whether we keep Amdouni. I’m hoping we knock the Swiss out without him featuring on Saturday and then he comes back.

It’s a make or break season for Foster, I agree. Needs an uninterrupted season and to push on now. I’m hopeful he will.

Amdouni would be very good at Championship level and a year there to recapture his confidence and form is just what he needs.

A fit JRod would still be a better than most Championship teams have.

Obafemi I watched twice play for Millwall. Didn’t score in either but looked very good in a poor team. A team that created a lot of chances & he’d do very well, I think.

I’d like to see Mellon and possibly Massara part of the mix as well. Would be great to have a home grown talent come through.

Will say though, and I’ll get some stick for this, but I’d go for Oli McBurnie on a free. I always think he’s a threat when we play them and think he scored as many as our top scorer in far less games in the premier league last year (not checked that), so would definitely be a threat in the Championship.

Will finish by saying it’s worth also assessing the competition and asking how many have striker depth as good as Foster, Amdouni, JRod, Obafemi. Favourites Leeds have Bamford, for example!

[jlup1980]

I wonder what the story is with Lampard and Rosenior. I’d take either of those two over Parker and Bellamy every day of the week.

Really? Lampard doesn't have an awful record, and I think many are clouded by his time at Everton, but I'll take the lad who's had two promotions from the Championship over the rest. Rosenior shouldn't be anywhere near the reckoning. Hull threw the kitchen sink at it last season and should have made the play offs at the very least. His record doesn't suggest he's ready to step up to a club with genuine ambition to win the league. Parker might be marmite but he's proven at this level.

[Spike]

It really depends what system a new manager plays. I think assuming a single striker we’re fine. And as you say then whether we keep Amdouni. I’m hoping we knock the Swiss out without him featuring on Saturday and then he comes back.

It’s a make or break season for Foster, I agree. Needs an uninterrupted season and to push on now. I’m hopeful he will.

Amdouni would be very good at Championship level and a year there to recapture his confidence and form is just what he needs.

A fit JRod would still be a better than most Championship teams have.

Obafemi I watched twice play for Millwall. Didn’t score in either but looked very good in a poor team. A team that created a lot of chances & he’d do very well, I think.

I’d like to see Mellon and possibly Massara part of the mix as well. Would be great to have a home grown talent come through.

Will say though, and I’ll get some stick for this, but I’d go for Oli McBurnie on a free. I always think he’s a threat when we play them and think he scored as many as our top scorer in far less games in the premier league last year (not checked that), so would definitely be a threat in the Championship.

Will finish by saying it’s worth also assessing the competition and asking how many have striker depth as good as Foster, Amdouni, JRod, Obafemi. Favourites Leeds have Bamford, for example!

Don’t want McBurnie he gets too many deserved red cards

[ksrclaret]

Really? Lampard doesn't have an awful record, and I think many are clouded by his time at Everton, but I'll take the lad who's had two promotions from the Championship over the rest. Rosenior shouldn't be anywhere near the reckoning. Hull threw the kitchen sink at it last season and should have made the play offs at the very least. His record doesn't suggest he's ready to step up to a club with genuine ambition to win the league. Parker might be marmite but he's proven at this level.

Parker’s record at this level is a very good one, no denying that, but despite that I just can’t get excited about his potential appointment whatsoever. I can’t quite put my finger on exactly what it is to be honest and what makes him the marmite character you’ve described.

The other two I’d find easier to get behind.

[ClaretTony]

Don’t want McBurnie he gets too many deserved red cards

Got his first ever red card last season

[kentonclaret]

A fit JRod would still be a better than most Championship teams have.


Will finish by saying it’s worth also assessing the competition and asking how many have striker depth as good as Foster, Amdouni, JRod, Obafemi. Favourites Leeds have Bamford, for example!

Difficult to know until all of the clubs have completed their transfer business and we see the make up of their squads.

As it stands the Luton pairing of Morris and Adebayo is superior to anything that Burnley can muster, they both hit double figures in the PL last campaign.

[123EasyasBFC]

Parker’s record at this level is a very good one, no denying that, but despite that I just can’t get excited about his potential appointment whatsoever. I can’t quite put my finger on exactly what it is to be honest and what makes him the marmite character you’ve described.

The other two I’d find easier to get behind.

Potentially one of the reasons we can’t get excited about Parker is the potential other names in the mix. Had the likes of RVN never been in the running and Parker was only the ex prem player linked with the job, he might of seemed more exciting

[NewClaret]

Don’t want McBurnie he gets too many deserved red cards

Are you sure about that? Don’t think he gets too many?

I agree he’s a ****house and a bit dirty which is exactly why I’d take him to toughen us up a bit and give us some physical presence up front.

[Goliath]

Are you sure about that? Don’t think he gets too many?

I agree he’s a ****house and a bit dirty which is exactly why I’d take him to toughen us up a bit and give us some physical presence up front.

Careful. I started a thread saying we should sign him this summer during the season and got peltered

[jedi_master]

I'd take McBurnie, or someone like him, certainly in the Championship. We have lacked that type of player since we released Barnes. He is more than just a shithouse, just like Barnes was. Holds the ball up, offers a platform to retain possession high up the pitch. Too often last season the ball didn't stick with Foster, Amdouni and Fofana. Wasteful in possession.

[agreenwood]

Parker’s got a good track record at Championship level and a huge amount of playing experience at the top two levels. He’s still very young for a manager too and has time to develop and improve.

On paper, he’s not the worst choice by any means.

[kentonclaret]

Potentially one of the reasons we can’t get excited about Parker is the potential other names in the mix. Had the likes of RVN never been in the running and Parker was only the ex prem player linked with the job, he might of seemed more exciting

When this thread started off the names on the menu read like a 3 Star Michelin restaurant now it’s starting to look a bit like Joe’s cafe.

[123EasyasBFC]

When this thread started off the names on the menu read like a 3 Star Michelin restaurant now it’s starting to look a bit like Joe’s cafe.

If the new guy is happy just running joes cafe rather than itching for a Michelin star then they might be better for us.

For me Parker wouldn’t be someone always looking for the next job

[NewClaret]

Careful. I started a thread saying we should sign him this summer during the season and got peltered

I am fully expecting the same.

Think I contributed to that and can’t remember what I said back then but I’ve definitely changed my view that we need to keep a core or experienced, English players so with Charlie gone and also Cork I think he’d be a good signing.

If Amdouni and/or Twine go I’d also go in for O’Hare. Definite routes to signing very good Championship pedigree relatively cheaply.

[Conroy92]

Strange RVN hasn't been confirmed at United yet...

Googled it, missed that one

[NewClaret]

If the new guy is happy just running joes cafe rather than itching for a Michelin star then they might be better for us.

For me Parker wouldn’t be someone always looking for the next job

It’s a fair point about Parker. Possibly Pace is now looking at who would hang around and has been put off by super ambitious managers.

I have to say though, although I’d prefer Bellamy of the two, if our final two really are Parker and Bellamy to succeed Kompany I think it’s about as big a shift in strategy as I could’ve expected.

[NewClaret]

Strange RVN hasn't been confirmed at United yet...

Think it might be linked to ETH new contract.

[martin_p]

Just my personal opinion. Parker’s football is anodyne at best and he’s left his previous jobs with barely a good word from anyone, despite achieving promotions, which I do appreciate is pretty important.

Lampard gets a lot of stick but I’d find it easier to get behind him and his football.

Give me the man that gets promotion over the one with the good media brand and pretty football every day!

[ksrclaret]

Give me the man that gets promotion over the one with the good media brand and pretty football every day!

I think the search for a new manager ought to be a little more nuanced than that, but you're entitled to your opinion.

[123EasyasBFC]

It’s a fair point about Parker. Possibly Pace is now looking at who would hang around and has been put off by super ambitious managers.

I have to say though, although I’d prefer Bellamy of the two, if our final two really are Parker and Bellamy to succeed Kompany I think it’s about as big a shift in strategy as I could’ve expected.

The departure of kompany has hit the clubs ownership hard hasn’t it

[martin_p]

I think the search for a new manager ought to be a little more nuanced than that, but you're entitled to your opinion.

Why?

[Fizzy]

When this thread started off the names on the menu read like a 3 Star Michelin restaurant now it’s starting to look a bit like Joe’s cafe.

[Big Vinny K]

Why?

Or else we’d just be looking at managers who have got promotion - Steve Bruce, Chris Wilder, Parker etc

It’s more nuanced than that as the decision will never be likely to be based on one attribute

[morninbob]

Is this the first media article linking us with Kaspar?
https://www.hitc.com/burnley-hope-euro- ... pany-exit/

[martin_p]

Or else we’d just be looking at managers who have got promotion - Steve Bruce, Chris Wilder, Parker etc

It’s more nuanced than that as the decision will never be likely to be based on one attribute

Don’t disagree that we should look wider than just managers who have won promotion, but my comment was in response to someone who would prefer Lampard to Parker based on Lampard having a better style of football. Essentially I want a manager that will get us promoted the style of football doesn’t matter.

I’m not sure when this became a ‘thing’ to be honest, style over results. The season we won the championship under Kompany was great but in terms of excitement (and by extension enjoyment) it was bottom of our four premier league promotion seasons.

[Hedontplayforyou]

I fear if it’s Parker that the fans will already be negative towards him before he even gets the claret and blue cardigan on

[AGENT_CLARET]

If the new guy is happy just running joes cafe rather than itching for a Michelin star then they might be better for us.

For me Parker wouldn’t be someone always looking for the next job

I don't think Kompany was really

[123EasyasBFC]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... placement/

[jos]

T minus 8

[123EasyasBFC]

I don't think Kompany was really

Do you not think? I don’t necessarily think there’s anything wrong with a manager looking for his next role but I do think kompany had his next role in his mind, as much as he said he didn’t.

[123EasyasBFC]

T minus 8

Hours or days

[Newcastleclaret93]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... placement/

Really not sure what I think of this bloke.

Seems to have a done a relatively decent job with Denmark. But his managerial career just looks fairly mediocre.

Feels a bit meh compared to some of the exciting managers we were linked with. But fingers cross he does a good job

[AGENT_CLARET]

Do you not think? I don’t necessarily think there’s anything wrong with a manager looking for his next role but I do think kompany had his next role in his mind, as much as he said he didn’t.

99% of manager's if offered the Bayern job would of taken it, I don't think he was looking at jumping at the first offer because He was offered job's at 7 different clubs after promotion and he turned them all down

[AGENT_CLARET]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/burnl ... placement/

This excites me more than the other's if true

[ClaretInLeeds]

You can safely assume that anything from HITC is a load of rubbish.

[123EasyasBFC]

Really not sure what I think of this bloke.

Seems to have a done a relatively decent job with Denmark. But his managerial career just looks fairly mediocre.

Feels a bit meh compared to some of the exciting managers we were linked with. But fingers cross he does a good job

One big thing for me is after managing at international level for the last 4 years, how out of touch with club football would he be. He also seems more of a manager rather than head coach

[123EasyasBFC]

99% of manager's if offered the Bayern job would of taken it, I don't think he was looking at jumping at the first offer because He was offered job's at 7 different clubs after promotion and he turned them all down

Oh god yeah not suggesting he should turn the Bayern job down. Are you sure he turned 7 jobs down last summer. I don’t believe that for a second

[123EasyasBFC]

You can safely assume that anything from HITC is a load of rubbish.

You say that but vaguely remember Graeme Bailey being one of the first to report on dyche was about to be sacked

[AGENT_CLARET]

Oh god yeah not suggesting he should turn the Bayern job down. Are you sure he turned 7 jobs down last summer. I don’t believe that for a second

Yes he turned down offers from seven clubs, I've no idea the quality of these clubs they could of been Accy Stanley, Wigan or Mansfield for all I know, I did the ground tour a few weeks back on Fathers day and after being asked what we thought of Kompany leaving by the lady and gentleman we were all told after promotion he turned down offers from 7 different clubs to manage them to stay at Burnley but this offer to Bayern this summer was to big to turn down.

[aggi]

Really? Lampard doesn't have an awful record, and I think many are clouded by his time at Everton, but I'll take the lad who's had two promotions from the Championship over the rest. Rosenior shouldn't be anywhere near the reckoning. Hull threw the kitchen sink at it last season and should have made the play offs at the very least. His record doesn't suggest he's ready to step up to a club with genuine ambition to win the league. Parker might be marmite but he's proven at this level.

A few people have said this but, realistically, Ipswich excepted, the teams they finished below were throwing the kitchen sink and the dishwasher at it. They might not have exceeded expecations but they probably didn't underperform either. Obviously people will have different views on whether that is good enough.

[warksclaret]

You say that but vaguely remember Graeme Bailey being one of the first to report on dyche was about to be sacked
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Hope it has legs this one-surprisingly Kasper still 5-1 at Sky Bet

[RVclaret]

You can safely assume that anything from HITC is a load of rubbish.

The worst of the worst, Graeme Bailey just makes stuff up. He had Lampard being given the job a few weeks ago.

[clitheroeclaret3]

This excites me more than the other's if true

Me too having watched Denmark play against Germany.
Their style of play looked ideal for the way we 've played under VK. It would suit the players 100%

[Guller Bull]

and another link to Kaspar( may have already been posted - delete if it has) https://the72.co.uk/2024/07/01/burnley- ... ach-offer/