Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

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Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:30 pm

This has cropped up on both the Mark Cavendish and Andy Murray threads.

Probably deserves a thread of its own (and keeps it off threads recognising that pair's achievements.

Murray and Cag both mentioned.

Multiple Olympic gold medalists, Ainslie, Hoy, Kenny(s), Wiggins to name but a few.

Ronnie or Phil Taylor (do they play sports or pub games is a separate argument!).

Faldo, Hamilton, Froome. Our very own Jimmy.

Loads more that I've forgotten to mention.

Or do we all just agree that it's Glen Little and have done with it?

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Tribesmen » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:34 pm

Roger Banister
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Post by South West Claret. » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:35 pm

Stanley Mathews.

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Post by claret2018 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:36 pm

Ryan Giggs

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by BurnleyFC » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:45 pm

I loved Daley Thompson when I was growing up.
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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Anonymous Claret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:55 pm

I think Daley Thompson is a very good shout as a double gold medal winning Olympian. To be very good over 10 disciplines is outstanding.

I think it also fair to mention that almost anybody could become an athlete if they were talented enough and willing to put in the hours of training to succeed.

Hamilton and Ainslie have absolutely no right to be included in this category. Although they were very skillful at what they did the opportunity for an average person to become a F 1 driver or a yachtsman are many thousands to one. Hamilton and Ainslie could have chosen to be an athlete when growing up. I very much doubt Thompson could have been an Olympic Sailor or F1 Driver. Those 2 sports are mainly reserved for the privileged class.
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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by JohnMac » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:02 pm

Anonymous Claret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:55 pm

Hamilton and Ainslie have absolutely no right to be included in this category. Those 2 sports are mainly reserved for the privileged class.
Nah mate, Hamilton had a tough upbringing and broke away from his gang on the estates so he could better himself. Well, that's how he likes to portray himself anyway :D

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Vincent'sCap » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:03 pm

Chris Hoy/Steve Redgrave

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by CoolClaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:14 pm

... was born in Burnley and his name is James 'Jimmy' Anderson.
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Post by Rowls » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:17 pm

C B Fry
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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Joe14 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:18 pm

Glen Little for me

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Post by aclaretinstevenage » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:18 pm

Vincent'sCap wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:03 pm
Chris Hoy/Steve Redgrave
Add Jason and Laura Kenny and you have it I reckon.

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by CaptainKirk » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:21 pm

Anonymous Claret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:55 pm
I think Daley Thompson is a very good shout as a double gold medal winning Olympian. To be very good over 10 disciplines is outstanding.

I think it also fair to mention that almost anybody could become an athlete if they were talented enough and willing to put in the hours of training to succeed.

Hamilton and Ainslie have absolutely no right to be included in this category. Although they were very skillful at what they did the opportunity for an average person to become a F 1 driver or a yachtsman are many thousands to one. Hamilton and Ainslie could have chosen to be an athlete when growing up. I very much doubt Thompson could have been an Olympic Sailor or F1 Driver. Those 2 sports are mainly reserved for the privileged class.
Don't know whether this is a wind up or not???

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Burnley1989 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:27 pm

Tribesmen wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 1:34 pm
Roger Banister
Its not quite the same feat anymore although for the non existent sports science at the time it was unbelievable.

A lad from Burnley I know has run a sub 4 minute - https://worldathletics.org/athletes/gre ... n-14714944

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:31 pm

Either Jimmy Anderson (cricketer not the dodgy plumber) or John Francis
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Post by Devils_Advocate » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:32 pm

Jon Walters, but for his bad luck with injury's I think he would be unanimously regarded as the worlds greatest sportsperson never mind Britain
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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by bfcjg » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:34 pm

Steve Redgave, Chris Hoy, Torville and Dean perhaps?
For sheer effort and spirit Eddie the Eagle.

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Anonymous Claret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:44 pm

CaptainKirk wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:21 pm
Don't know whether this is a wind up or not???
The way I understand it is that to be Britain's greatest ever sportsman, the vast majority of the population should have the opportunity to compete and become the best in that sport.

The vast majority of the population does not have the opportunity to become a F1 driver or an Olympic Yachtsman.

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Coeus » Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:52 pm

Eddie the eagle.

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by NottsClaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:05 pm

Not going to Google people from before my era, so I'd probably think about Jimmy Anderson. Ronne O'Sullivan is probably the most ludicrously talented, but is it a game or sport? (isn't the general rule that if you need to change your shoes, it's a sport).

Jessica Ennis was the best in the world for a good while, doing loads of events.

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Post by dandeclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:11 pm

Tony McCoy
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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Pearcey » Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:14 pm

Phil Taylor all day long!

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Cardclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:17 pm

CB Fry played for England at cricket and football and held the world long jump record. Some going.
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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Lambo » Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:43 pm

A lot of folk naming people from sports they themselves participate in so I’ll go along with the same mantra and name Joss Naylor and Jasmin Paris….of the more famous/popular sportsmen/sports I’d say Jimmy Anderson, Mark Cavendish, Jason Kenny/Chris Hoy, Seb Coe/Steve Ovett, Steve Redgrave….i’m sure there’s plenty more worthy nominees as it’s all subjective

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Aclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:01 pm

Scott Parker must be in with a shout.

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Tricky Trevor » Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:47 pm

Fred Perry. Wimbledon Champ and world Table Tennis champ.

Lambos’ Seb Coe shout is a good one. Double Olympic 1500m champ denied his chance of the triple at Seoul by selectors. The Olympics then gave defending champs automatic entry to the next games.

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by TheFamilyCat » Fri Jul 05, 2024 5:05 pm

Tricky Trevor wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 4:47 pm
Fred Perry. Wimbledon Champ and world Table Tennis champ.
Makes a nice polo too.

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Post by RHansburyEsq » Fri Jul 05, 2024 5:43 pm

Joss Naylor

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Post by holdyourfire » Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:23 pm

Ian botham

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Post by bobinho » Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:49 pm

Dame Sarah storey.

Good shouts for Murray, Hoy, Redgrave, Cav and of course Jimmy.

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Post by jos » Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:50 pm

John Surtees
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Post by BigJay » Fri Jul 05, 2024 6:55 pm

In no particular, my top 3 Andy Murray, Lewis Hamilton, Lennox Lewis

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Post by pushpinpussy » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:04 pm

George Best, might as well close thread now. Absolute brilliance.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:11 pm

Max Woosnam all day

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Post by dsr » Fri Jul 05, 2024 7:15 pm

If this isn't restricted to the age of colour TV, W.G. Grace was "The Great Cricketer".

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Post by timshorts » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:14 pm

Cardclaret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 3:17 pm
CB Fry played for England at cricket and football and held the world long jump record. Some going.
Yep.

Of those around in my lifetime I'd pick Barry john. The rugby equivalent of George best but without being an alcoholic knob. And he didn't play for man United.

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Post by getbennyon » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:18 pm

The list would be dominated by footballers.

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by boatshed bill » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:27 pm

Roger Bannister

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Post by yTib » Fri Jul 05, 2024 8:30 pm

either w.g. grace or ronnie o'sullivan.

and george best wasn't from britain.

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Post by maccclaret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:07 pm

Geoff Capes

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by jdrobbo » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:18 pm

Cavendish, Hoy, Kenny, Trott, Taylor, Ronnie.

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Anonymous Claret » Fri Jul 05, 2024 9:44 pm

Cyclists are also a good shout although there will always be the suspicion that at least 1 of our medal winners were actually using banned substances.

I suppose we will never know unless Richard Freeman decides to expose the guilty rider. It wouldn't surprise me if quite a few of them were at it.

But as it stands at the moment they are all heroes :D

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by burnley007 » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:18 pm

Wiggins for me.

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Post by Claret Toni » Fri Jul 05, 2024 10:28 pm

Francis Drake.

Decent Bowls player, gave the Spanish a lesson in gunnery and sailed round the world.
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Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:53 pm

Stirling Moss

Because when I was young anyone who was quick at anything was asked, "Who do you think you are - Stirling Moss?"

Can't think of that being said about many - Stanley Mathew's perhaps, who played until he was 50 years old.

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:54 pm

There are a lot of names cropping up that never won anything. Surely to be Britains GOAT you have to have been a world or Olympic Champion, with a sustained career?

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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by RammyClaret61 » Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:51 am

Anonymous Claret wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:44 pm
The way I understand it is that to be Britain's greatest ever sportsman, the vast majority of the population should have the opportunity to compete and become the best in that sport.

The vast majority of the population does not have the opportunity to become a F1 driver or an Olympic Yachtsman.
And every single person does have that opportunity. They just have to go for it and take it, work hard at it, push yourself. It’s not a class thing.
But of course there are naturally talented people at their sports, and they excel.
Just has there are many many more who are handed the opportunity, and pushed by rich parents into something they are absolutely useless at.

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Post by It Is What It Is » Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:34 am

Sir Stephen Redgrave.
FIVE GOLD MEDALS IN FIVE CONSECUTIVE OLYMPICS!
Absolutely incredible achievement!!

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Post by Burnley1989 » Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:06 am

RammyClaret61 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 12:51 am
And every single person does have that opportunity. They just have to go for it and take it, work hard at it, push yourself. It’s not a class thing.
Couldn't be more wrong mate

Theres a reason children from poor backgrounds fall into football and boxing and not F1 and sailing
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Re: Britain's Greatest Ever Sportsperson

Post by Vincent'sCap » Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:23 am

aclaretinstevenage wrote:
Fri Jul 05, 2024 2:18 pm
Add Jason and Laura Kenny and you have it I reckon.
Your probably right.
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