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Re: JBG

Post by Taffy on the wing » Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:59 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:32 pm
This was my suspicion. If so it's incredibly unprofessional from Bellamy regardless of what we all think of Kompany.
Maybe, just maybe....... it was the 28th straight game with Trafford starting in goal that pushed him over the edge? It did me.

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Re: JBG

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:04 pm

People calling for a striker, I guarantee (if he stays) Lyle foster has potential to be the best striker in the league. When playing up top he's unbelievable.

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Re: JBG

Post by bartons baggage » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:14 pm

4 or 5 years ago I'd have been glad to see him go.
But now his experience is exactly what our young team needs.
Welcome back JBG.

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Re: JBG

Post by bumba » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:15 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:57 pm
You shouldn't he's the boss
The best bosses in world football will have coaches and assistants that tell them when they don't agree with something and they'll be the ones that aren't stubborn enough to ignore advice

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Re: JBG

Post by Steddyman » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:22 pm

GetIntoEm wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:04 pm
People calling for a striker, I guarantee (if he stays) Lyle foster has potential to be the best striker in the league. When playing up top he's unbelievable.
Why? He was one of the worst strikers in the league the last time he played here. What has changed?
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Re: JBG

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:23 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:16 pm
And that gives you blank caveat to do whatever the hell you like in the name of winning?

Absolutely not!
Still the Boss, my original point

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Re: JBG

Post by CoolClaret » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:26 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:14 pm
Maybe not, but this kind of thing follows him everywhere.
I've not heard about Jackson having any such issues with Kompany. Sometimes it's better to keep your mouth shut, especially when it relates to your boss.
If a 'boss' only likes sycophants then that's no good.

Oh and it's not a boss - that's a dictator.
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Re: JBG

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:29 pm

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:23 pm
Still the Boss, my original point
The ‘Boss’ is actually Alan Pace and the board of directors, they pay bellamys wage not kompany.

I’m sure kompany in his football career has done his fair share of not agreeing with people and voiced what he didn’t agree on

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Re: JBG

Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:33 pm

welcome back JBG ....
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Re: JBG

Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:36 pm

And just goes to show that it was bad down at the Turf near end of last season and maybe if Mr Pace had made a decision at Xmas time we might have just stayed up ...

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Re: JBG

Post by Goliath » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:38 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:29 pm
The ‘Boss’ is actually Alan Pace and the board of directors, they pay bellamys wage not kompany.

I’m sure kompany in his football career has done his fair share of not agreeing with people and voiced what he didn’t agree on
Right. That's not how it works in any other job. Your boss isn't one of the directors is it. It's your line manager, in this case Bellamy's was Kompany and if it's true that he started questioning Kompany infront of his players it is beyond unprofessional and I'm surprised he was allowed to stay through to the end of the season
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Re: JBG

Post by Cooclaret » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:42 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 3:44 pm
That’s not publicly then is it
It is if that’s your place of work…

That’s public…

Behind a closed door, in an office, away from people…

That’s no public…

Kompany was a prime twit, and we’re a better club for him leaving from bottom to top!

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Re: JBG

Post by RVclaret » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:45 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:22 pm
Why? He was one of the worst strikers in the league the last time he played here. What has changed?
:lol:

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Re: JBG

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:47 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:38 pm
Right. That's not how it works in any other job. Your boss isn't one of the directors is it. It's your line manager, in this case Bellamy's was Kompany and if it's true that he started questioning Kompany infront of his players it is beyond unprofessional and I'm surprised he was allowed to stay through to the end of the season
It’s not like any other job, you can’t criticise Bellamy for voicing an opinion if he didn’t think things were right. If he didn’t feel like he could voice an opinion then that’s not a healthy environment to be in
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Re: JBG

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:49 pm

Cooclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:42 pm
It is if that’s your place of work…

That’s public…

Behind a closed door, in an office, away from people…

That’s no public…

Kompany was a prime twit, and we’re a better club for him leaving from bottom to top!
It’s it’s not publicly, in the sense of what everyone else would class publicly as. Ten hag criticised sancho publicly by speaking in his press conference.

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Re: JBG

Post by Goliath » Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:01 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:47 pm
It’s not like any other job, you can’t criticise Bellamy for voicing an opinion if he didn’t think things were right. If he didn’t feel like he could voice an opinion then that’s not a healthy environment to be in
In front of the whole squad? What a great way to undermine your boss

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Re: JBG

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:20 pm

Goliath wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:01 pm
In front of the whole squad? What a great way to undermine your boss
Nobody knows if it was in front of the squad it’s all hearsay

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Re: JBG

Post by Darnhill Claret » Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:57 pm

Kompany knew Bellamy and brought him to the club. He knew his character and temperament. He would have expected Craig to speak up but maybe his ego didn't allow him to accept an alternative view to his own.

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Re: JBG

Post by bfcjg » Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:58 pm

Round of applause for JBG
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Re: JBG

Post by Cooclaret » Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:08 pm

On another point: I thought Labour were stopping all the ‘fire and rehire’ practices in the UK.

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Re: JBG

Post by Claret Toni » Sat Jul 06, 2024 6:18 pm

Too old at 34?

Just played centre midfield against England's finest.

And won.

And he's re-signed for us.

Happy days.

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Re: JBG

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:52 pm

BigGaz wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:02 pm
JBG, brought up in a country with a huge life expectancy, where they're taught to live well and not to take things too seriously. Barely drinks, doesn't smoke, has lived the life of a professional athlete for longer than he hasn't lived the life of a professional athlete Goes home to a goddess every night.

His 34 is your 25.
That is the post of the day, to accompany the wonderful news of Gudmundsson 's return. Thank you.

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Re: JBG

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:55 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:46 am
Excuse me for being a cynic, because I liked JBG and he has been a fabulous player for us, but this sounds to me that his agent has in 6 or 7 weeks been unable to find him a new club, and contact been made with ourselves by him or his agent-he may be even training with us in the absence of not having another club.We had posters on here saying he could easily find a PL club. With our squad size, for me I think this would be a backward step as you are denying progress in many of the wide players we have if he plays, and even the likes of Ramsey and Massengo could be denied opportunities
He was ours until the end of June. He probably had a long hols, after 2 internationals, captaining his country. Today is 6 July. No time lost.

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Re: JBG

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 06, 2024 7:57 pm

wilks_bfc wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:51 am
I’d be happy for him to resign
He's only just got here!😁
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Re: JBG

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:04 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:22 pm
I'd have Guddy back tomorrow!
He'd be a stand out player in the Championship,when needed & his experience invaluable.
Well you have him today! Even better!
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Re: JBG

Post by Tribesmen » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:10 pm

Happy out

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Re: JBG

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:12 pm

Clive 1960 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 12:02 pm
Why do you think Bellamy left ...
How is that relevant to your comment about JBG?

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Re: JBG

Post by boatshed bill » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:17 pm

Darnhill Claret wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 5:57 pm
Kompany knew Bellamy and brought him to the club. He knew his character and temperament. He would have expected Craig to speak up but maybe his ego didn't allow him to accept an alternative view to his own.
Or maybe this is all conjecture. i tend to doubt hearsay on here.

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Re: JBG

Post by Buxtonclaret » Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:20 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:04 pm
Well you have him today! Even better!
Grand stuff eh, Ian ? 8-)
Might just have to try a large, single malt to celebrate. ;)
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Re: JBG

Post by GetIntoEm » Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:13 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:22 pm
Why? He was one of the worst strikers in the league the last time he played here. What has changed?
Hopefully the fact you're thick af

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Re: JBG

Post by jdrobbo » Sat Jul 06, 2024 9:16 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:22 pm
I'd have Guddy back tomorrow!
He'd be a stand out player in the Championship,when needed & his experience invaluable.
You can have him back today! 🙂
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Re: JBG

Post by IanMcL » Sat Jul 06, 2024 10:07 pm

Buxtonclaret wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:20 pm
Grand stuff eh, Ian ? 8-)
Might just have to try a large, single malt to celebrate. ;)
I am so glad I just read this. I will be gone for a couple of mins, while I pour a Drambuie!

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Re: JBG

Post by Clive 1960 » Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:48 pm

TheFamilyCat wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 8:12 pm
How is that relevant to your comment about JBG?
They both left and came back, don't you think that's unusual..

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Re: JBG

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:08 am

Clive 1960 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:42 am
When Bellamy left at end of the season and then comes back when Kompany leaves and Jay signing a extension...
Bellamy left thinking he was joining kompany at BM & BM put the block on that leaving him with little choice other than coming back. I'm glad JBG is staying on but let's not pretend he wasn't waiting for other offers which didn't materialise hence the change of mind. Everybody's out for themselves.

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Re: JBG

Post by Clive 1960 » Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:13 am

i think you will find he left before Kompany ...

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Re: JBG

Post by Jakubclaret » Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:15 am

Clive 1960 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 4:13 am
i think you will find he left before Kompany ...
He did yes that doesnt mean anything the groundwork/interest was already established when kompany was in situ all this never happened overnight.

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Re: JBG

Post by roperclaret » Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:44 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 2:57 pm
You shouldn't he's the boss
That’s tosh. You should look up ‘the difference between a a manager and a leader’

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Re: JBG

Post by Bigvince » Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:51 am

Nothing much changes on here, another thread another petty argument!
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Re: JBG

Post by roperclaret » Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:54 am

Goliath wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 4:38 pm
Right. That's not how it works in any other job. Your boss isn't one of the directors is it. It's your line manager, in this case Bellamy's was Kompany and if it's true that he started questioning Kompany infront of his players it is beyond unprofessional and I'm surprised he was allowed to stay through to the end of the season
Don’t know what you do (or did) but I work in a sales environment. It’s a little like sports in that there is a team mentality. We are encouraged to challenge management decisions if we can put forward a better way of doing things. But of course, you need to be able to frame it right (positively) and not subsequently sulk if declined

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Re: JBG

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:47 am

roperclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:44 am
That’s tosh. You should look up ‘the difference between a a manager and a leader’
Kompany was the MANAGER of Burnley football club

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Re: JBG

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:49 am

Bigvince wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 5:51 am
Nothing much changes on here, another thread another petty argument!
It's what's a forum is all about

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Re: JBG

Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:52 am

Jakubclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 1:08 am
Bellamy left thinking he was joining kompany at BM & BM put the block on that leaving him with little choice other than coming back. I'm glad JBG is staying on but let's not pretend he wasn't waiting for other offers which didn't materialise hence the change of mind. Everybody's out for themselves.
Bellamy didn’t leave thinking he was joining VK at BM

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Re: JBG

Post by houseboy » Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:21 am

What brilliant news. Couldn't believe last night when I read it. Was sick when he wasn’t offered a new contract but that was probably down to Kompany. Love the guy.
As for the ongoing argument about Kompany and Bellamy, what has that got to do with is thread. Start another one for that and leave this for the good news.

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Re: JBG

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:48 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 8:49 am
It's what's a forum is all about
This explains a lot about the way you post on here.

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Re: JBG

Post by TheFamilyCat » Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:52 am

Clive 1960 wrote:
Sat Jul 06, 2024 11:48 pm
They both left and came back, don't you think that's unusual..
All I've asked of you is to explain how JBG resigning "shows how toxic things had become".

That was your claim in your OP. Surely you have something to back it up?

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Re: JBG

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:55 am

ksrclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:48 am
This explains a lot about the way you post on here.
Okay snowflake

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Re: JBG

Post by ksrclaret » Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:01 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 9:55 am
Okay snowflake
All I’d say is try to be considerate of others when you post on this public forum. You might believe that getting involved in “petty arguments” is what this forum is all about, as you’ve just demonstrated, but most would prefer that such things were left in the playground, I think.

Try to have a good day today, anyway, pal. Be kind to someone, and if that makes me a snowflake, so be it.

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Re: JBG

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:14 am

I must confess I am surprised we have re-signed JBG, because of the sheer size of the squad that needs culling down to the size a Championship club can support. We have a massive task on our hands, with so many fringe players not good enough to help support a promotion push. I cannot see JBG playing many games as we have currently at least 6 wide players, and JBG lacks the pace as an inverted winger. In central midfield we have Berge, Cullen, Brownhill, Messengo, Ramsey, before we even consider Egan Riley & Bastian. On a positive I sense from this post that him staying has been very positively received amongst our fans, and hopefully this has the same impact with the playing squad, and help ensure unity with the arrival of our new manager.We just need to ensure that sentiment does not have too much influence in retaining players who realistically are not likely to get playing time in the new season

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Re: JBG

Post by taio » Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:29 am

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:14 am
I must confess I am surprised we have re-signed JBG, because of the sheer size of the squad that needs culling down to the size a Championship club can support. We have a massive task on our hands, with so many fringe players not good enough to help support a promotion push. I cannot see JBG playing many games as we have currently at least 6 wide players, and JBG lacks the pace as an inverted winger. In central midfield we have Berge, Cullen, Brownhill, Messengo, Ramsey, before we even consider Egan Riley & Bastian. On a positive I sense from this post that him staying has been very positively received amongst our fans, and hopefully this has the same impact with the playing squad, and help ensure unity with the arrival of our new manager.We just need to ensure that sentiment does not have too much influence in retaining players who realistically are not likely to get playing time in the new season
I doubt we'll have six wide players at the end of the transfer window but, in any case, JBG could well play centrally, as you suggest. But surely he's ahead of some of the players you mention, some of them play a deeper role than JBG would, Egan Riley is a defender and Ramsey remains injured. Gudmundsson has plenty to offer next season, sentiment aside.

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Re: JBG

Post by ClaretPete001 » Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:51 am

warksclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2024 10:14 am
I must confess I am surprised we have re-signed JBG, because of the sheer size of the squad that needs culling down to the size a Championship club can support. We have a massive task on our hands, with so many fringe players not good enough to help support a promotion push. I cannot see JBG playing many games as we have currently at least 6 wide players, and JBG lacks the pace as an inverted winger. In central midfield we have Berge, Cullen, Brownhill, Messengo, Ramsey, before we even consider Egan Riley & Bastian. On a positive I sense from this post that him staying has been very positively received amongst our fans, and hopefully this has the same impact with the playing squad, and help ensure unity with the arrival of our new manager.We just need to ensure that sentiment does not have too much influence in retaining players who realistically are not likely to get playing time in the new season
Do you think football is the only factor here?

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