FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by ChrisG » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:05 pm

morninbob wrote:
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The German purity law isn't a marketing tool, only 4 ingredients are allowed, water, barley, malt and hops.

Glucose is added to UK brewed lager to make it taste nice, that's what gives you a headache.
Not to Pisse auf Ihre Pommes, however the Reinheitsgebot was a purely Bavarian law, and it was repealed a good few decades ago.

Notwithstanding that, most German beer is absolutely superb, but so is a lot of British real ale. There are loads of small micro breweries in both countries, hell there's one 100m from my gaff, and I love it. But every time I'm back in the UK the first thing I want is a pint of ale
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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by Rowls » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:24 pm

morninbob wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:54 pm
The German purity law isn't a marketing tool, only 4 ingredients are allowed, water, barley, malt and hops.

Glucose is added to UK brewed lager to make it taste nice, that's what gives you a headache.
The purity laws act as marketing because they're famous and give people the mistaken belief that German beer is higher quality.

I seriously doubt German beer is produced under any different rules than any other EU country and we'll be operating under the same rules. Maybe they have additional laws but this would just mean they couldn't produce craft beer (or at least not label it as "beer")?

The original purity law is so old it only names THREE ingredients because they didn't even know what yeast is.

You claim people are putting glucose into beer?

I know this is done to create a secondary fermentation but that's a stylistic choice. Nobody, to my knowledge, is putting glucose into beer "because it's cheap". Besides which, you wouldn't need to as there is tonnes of sugars in malt.

If you want to make cheap beer, you typically use malt extract rather than pure malt because it's cheaper. However you can still do this and remain inside those esteemed purity laws because malt extract only contains malt. Take that, Kaiser Bill!

Ive never known glucose included as a base ingredient to reduce costs. I don't know of any beer popular commercial beers that have glucose as an ingredient. I also don't know what you would want to, unless you were making one of those daft ultra-strong beers. Glucose will not give you a headache but alcohol will, and I suppose if you add glucose, you'll end up with stronger beer but again, that's a stylistic choice. It's alcohol giving you that headache, not glucose.

We're getting into the intricacies of brewing here. I'm happy to talk beer and brewing till the cows come home but there are a few urban myths I think need their balloons bursting:

Commercial UK beer is as good as any other commercial beer produced anywhere in the world.

No, UK commercial beer is not adulterated.

There is no secret ingredient in commercial beer that sends you loopy. The ingredient that sends you loopy is alcohol.

There is no secret ingredient in UK beer that gives you a headache. The ingredient that gives you a headache is alcohol.

You prefer Czech beer / German beer / beer from xxx-land? Well that's fine but it's more likely just your personal preference.

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by Rowls » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:27 pm

ChrisG wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:05 pm
Not to Pisse auf Ihre Pommes, however the Reinheitsgebot was a purely Bavarian law, and it was repealed a good few decades ago.

Notwithstanding that, most German beer is absolutely superb, but so is a lot of British real ale. There are loads of small micro breweries in both countries, hell there's one 100m from my gaff, and I love it. But every time I'm back in the UK the first thing I want is a pint of ale
Good info there Chris :)

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by Rowls » Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:52 pm

morninbob wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:54 pm
The German purity law isn't a marketing tool, only 4 ingredients are allowed, water, barley, malt and hops.

Glucose is added to UK brewed lager to make it taste nice, that's what gives you a headache.
Well I never.

Owe you an apology morninbob. Turns out fosters lager has glucose syrup added.

I'm shocked!

But it won't give you a headache!

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by chipbutty » Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:49 pm

Devils_Advocate wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:43 am
In Leeds we get lost of new imported beer and one of the most recent ones is a decent Spanish one called Madri. It probably hasn't got to Burnley yet but when it does its worth giving it a try.
Madrid = Carling + Rats P1ss

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by Jamesy » Fri Jul 12, 2024 11:20 pm

Get yourselves to Morrisons. Pollys craft beer 4 cans for the price of three. Just over £11 outlay. No Brainer, unless you want to drink insipid lagers like Madri, Kronenbourg, Stella et.al. And when England get humped at least you will have had a good few beers!

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by morninbob » Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:18 am

ChrisG wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:05 pm
Not to Pisse auf Ihre Pommes, however the Reinheitsgebot was a purely Bavarian law, and it was repealed a good few decades ago.

Notwithstanding that, most German beer is absolutely superb, but so is a lot of British real ale. There are loads of small micro breweries in both countries, hell there's one 100m from my gaff, and I love it. But every time I'm back in the UK the first thing I want is a pint of ale
We are talking specifically about lager, no argument about real ale.

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by morninbob » Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:19 am

Rowls wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 9:04 pm
I don't care what some guy on the internet says. I know how beer is brewed in factories.

Minerals are taken out of the water, minerals are put back in.
You may not care, but he knows his stuff.

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by ChrisG » Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:30 am

morninbob wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 7:18 am
We are talking specifically about lager, no argument about real ale.
Aye, this is the Helles from the Brauhaus round the corner from me, it's incredible tackle.
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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by mick1882@ » Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:35 am

Currently having a nice cold warsteiner in Berlin
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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by mick1882@ » Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:36 am

Currently having a nice cold warsteiner in Berlin

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by ChrisG » Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:05 am

mick1882@ wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:35 am
Currently having a nice cold warsteiner in Berlin
Superb stuff. I'm there in Monday and Tuesday with work. Was hoping for a ticket for tomorrow, but nowt happening unfortunately.

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by mick1882@ » Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:10 am

We’re here till Tuesday currently searching for tickets

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by Jamesy » Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:05 am

ChrisG wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 8:30 am
Aye, this is the Helles from the Brauhaus round the corner from me, it's incredible tackle.

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That looks a decent drop!

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by ChrisG » Sat Jul 13, 2024 2:44 pm

Jamesy wrote:
Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:05 am
That looks a decent drop!
It's too nice 😂 5.4% and goes down like pop
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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by ChrisG » Sat Jul 13, 2024 5:56 pm

If we're talking bigger 'macro' German ales, then you can usually get a 20 x 0,5l case of some sort of Bavarian Helles for the 14€ mark in the supermarkets. This weekend I even saw the GOAT, Augustiner, on offer for 18,99 € for 20 bottles which is an excellent deal

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by The Shire Claret » Sun Jul 14, 2024 8:21 am

Swizzlestick wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:53 pm
Leffe Blonde not the same since they decided to weaken it and change the recipe a few months back, for reasons unknown.
I’ll have to see what it’s like tonight

I’m more partial to Duval so haven’t had a Leffe in a while - I’m sure it will still take better than most !

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by Claret » Sun Jul 14, 2024 10:03 am

Seen on twitter:

I've got San Miguel for when Spain play because it's Spanish, Beck's for when Germany play because it's German, Kronenberg when France play because it's French and Carling for when Scotland play because it's sh*t

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Re: FYI - Beer Fans stocking up for the WC Final

Post by Jamesy » Sun Jul 14, 2024 11:40 am

I fondly remember Herforder Pils which we used to drink when I was stationed in Germany. It probably doesn’t taste that good nowadays but back in the late 70’s and early 80’s it was a decent drop of beer compared to what was on offer back home in Burnley.
And they did take out packs also which we used to call “yellow handbags”. I thing there was 6 or 8 bottles in these handbags.
Happy days.

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