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BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:13 am

Muric leaving whilst failing to return to training got me thinking about other players who've left on bad terms.

Wout, of course has left distaste with a good slice of the fans thanks to 'the interview' but he at least had the temerity to turn up for training. Also he hasn't actually left yet but if , as expected, he does go he'll be going under a cloud.

Shackell is another but got some sweet karma in the Derby fixture at the turf.

My BFC Hero and clarets enigma Ted McMinn also vanished but gets a pass from me just because of the entertainment he gave. I remember Kurt Nogan also Any Gray but can't put my finger on why.

Who else is there?

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:18 am

Think Nogan sulked his way into a move.

Didn’t Blake leave on poor terms when he was transferred?

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:21 am

Managerial, but didnt Heath by all accounts not leave on the best terms when he went to be assistant at Everton.

Chaplow didn't hide his desire to go to West Brom.

Not bad terms, but the clear intent to run down deals may have grated in the case of Ings and Tarky

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:22 am

Muric hasn't left left on bad terms. What does it matter to us if he never trained before a move?

The club wanted to sell both goalkeepers and have done for some time, just like they will any other player we can get a profit on.

You can only be annoyed at them leaving if you really want them to stay.
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:28 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:22 am
Muric hasn't left left on bad terms. What does it matter to us if he never trained before a move?
Done to death but Wout tells BFC fans that Van Gaal told him he needs to move. He turns up to training and gets his move = vilified by some.
Muric just doesnt turn up = Still a hero to some because he nutmegged some no-mark in the Chumpionship.

Go figure.
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by ElectroClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:32 am

Paul Stewart.
Didn't he give the fans a Churchillian gesture as he left the field for the last time?

Wouldn't have thought there would be much worse
than that.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Commy » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:39 am

Didn't Gray take the advice of his father or cousin and force a move to Charlton, as they were trying to get back to the Premier. He thought his chances were better but they ended up getting relegated and then the year after we went up.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Luppy » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:39 am

The darling that is Robbie Blake left under a cloud TWICE! Downed tools pretty much both times

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Luppy » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:43 am

The darling that is Robbie Blake left under a cloud TWICE! Downed tools pretty much both times

Ben Gibson went training with Boro!

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Goliath » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:43 am

Bardsley, Mee and Pieters weren't too impressed with their treatment were they?

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Goliath » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:44 am

Luppy wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:43 am
The darling that is Robbie Blake left under a cloud TWICE! Downed tools pretty much both times

Ben Gibson went training with Boro!
I don't think I realised how nuts the Gibson scenario was at the time.
Our record signing swanning off and training with another club mid season

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Raconteur » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:44 am

Commy wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:39 am
Didn't Gray take the advice of his father or cousin and force a move to Charlton, as they were trying to get back to the Premier. He thought his chances were better but they ended up getting relegated and then the year after we went up.
I remember Gray saying joining Charlton would be his quickest way out of the league.

It turned out to be correct but not the way he thought.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Commy » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:47 am

I might be wrong but I have a feeling that it was the uncle Eddie Gray that instigated it all with Andy Gray.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Cornwallclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:49 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:21 am
Managerial, but didnt Heath by all accounts not leave on the best terms when he went to be assistant at Everton.

Chaplow didn't hide his desire to go to West Brom.

Not bad terms, but the clear intent to run down deals may have grated in the case of Ings and Tarky
To be fair on ings and tarks they owed us nothing after what they achieved with us
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by NL Claret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:52 am

Darthlaw wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:28 am

Muric just doesnt turn up = Still a hero to some because he nutmegged some no-mark in the Chumpionship.

Go figure.
That has to be one of the funniest things I’ve read on here. Good work.

Some get so touchy about Muric even though he has left the club.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by NL Claret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:54 am

Cornwallclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:49 am
To be fair on ings and tarks they owed us nothing after what they achieved with us
Ings downed tools. I reckon if you asked Dyche about Ings he wouldn’t speak too highly of him or his agent.
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Rowls » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:54 am

Commy wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:47 am
I might be wrong but I have a feeling that it was the uncle Eddie Gray that instigated it all with Andy Gray.
Wasn't he acting as his agent?

It all worked out brilliantly in the end though. Great bit of business!

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Im_not_Robbie_Blake » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:54 am

Is this all just made up?

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:57 am

Payton's exit felt long and drawn out in the end

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by blatherwickstattoos » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:17 am

Chris eagles , Tyrone mears . Both fecked off with horse face and blake to Bolton.

Did Kevin Russell force a move to stoke too back in the day? Only remember that as I was a big fan as a kid.

Chappy’s move to West Brom was because his wage was being doubled x10.

Peter swan was treat badly off waddle I recall too. They’ll be loads

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Plissken » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:19 am

There was no love lost on either side when Patrick Bamford finished his loan.
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:19 am

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:21 am
Managerial, but didnt Heath by all accounts not leave on the best terms when he went to be assistant at Everton
When he left he said he’d have considered staying had we tried to keep him. He said absolutely no one spoke to him.

Not too long ago he did an interview with the Burnley Express and said that Teasdale had done all he could to get him to stay.

Seems Heath doesn’t know but believe me he was right with his first thoughts.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:25 am

Darthlaw wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:28 am
Done to death but Wout tells BFC fans that Van Gaal told him he needs to move. He turns up to training and gets his move = vilified by some.
Muric just doesnt turn up = Still a hero to some because he nutmegged some no-mark in the Chumpionship.

Go figure.
Did you start hating Muric through all the defending of Trafford you had to do?
Or just in general?

The hate some Burnley fans show for Wout is brainless, just like the booing of Dwight McNeil.

But I suppose some football fans have to hate something?

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Spike » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:25 am

ElectroClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:32 am
Paul Stewart.
Didn't he give the fans a Churchillian gesture as he left the field for the last time?

Wouldn't have thought there would be much worse
than that.
Paul Stewart gets in my worst 11 everytime
He didn’t leave on bad terms he wanted to go but not as much as every Burnley fan

His loan was a total disaster

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:28 am

Spike wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:25 am
Paul Stewart gets in my worst 11 everytime
He didn’t leave on bad terms he wanted to go but not as much as every Burnley fan

His loan was a total disaster
He was injured and also suffering with the issues we are all now fully aware of. The only person to blame for this loan was Mullen who knew fully that he was injured.

And he wouldn’t get close to my worst 11.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by NottsClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:30 am

I think Paul Stewart gets a pass, knowing what we know now.
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Quickenthetempo » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:36 am

Knowing what we know now, I reckon any sane minded Burnley fan who gave Paul Stewart some stick, regrets it now.
I know I do.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:38 am

Quickenthetempo wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:25 am
Did you start hating Muric through all the defending of Trafford you had to do?
Or just in general?
Not sure what Trafford has to do with Muric going AWOL and forcing a move?

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by claret2018 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:43 am

Wout is number 1 for this. Why bother signing a multi year contract if he’s no intention of playing for us? Any player that prioritises their country over club is a selfish arsehole as far as I’m concerned.

Pound-for-pound our worst ever signing.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:46 am

Im_not_Robbie_Blake wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:54 am
Is this all just made up?
Seems like it.

I will take some convincing that Muric leaving a nice message for us on his Insta and the club thanking him for his efforts is "bad terms"

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by ClaretTony » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:48 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:46 am
Seems like it.

I will take some convincing that Muric leaving a nice message for us on his Insta and the club thanking him for his efforts is "bad terms"
Muric didn’t leave on good terms having failed to turn up for pre season to force his move.

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:49 am

Well that's me told :D

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:51 am

Is this leaving on good terms with the fans or good terms with the Club?

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Post by Commy » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:51 am

Muric knew he had the support of most of the supporters. It was just the manager that didn't, for some reason, trust him.
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:51 am

daveisaclaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:46 am
I will take some convincing that Muric leaving a nice message for us on his Insta and the club thanking him for his efforts is "bad terms"
Obviously this is speculation from me but having stayed away from training, forcing a move then removing all BFC traces on his socials (including his connections with other players) the message out to the fans was damage limitation?

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Post by daveisaclaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:53 am

Darthlaw wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:51 am
Obviously this is speculation from me but having stayed away from training, forcing a move then removing all BFC traces on his socials (including his connections with other players) the message out to the fans was damage limitation?
He's not somebody I associated with damage limitation!
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Notsosuperstevedavis » Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:57 am

Chris wood basically said he was bored and needed a challenge.
That didnt go down too well

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:01 pm

Am I misremembering or was Chris McCann's departure on bad terms?

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Post by Rowls » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:19 pm

Poulton-le-Claret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:01 pm
Am I misremembering or was Chris McCann's departure on bad terms?
I think he was one of the players offered new contracts by Dyche but decided to go elsewhere. The others who left were Martin Paterson and Lee Grant.

The one who stayed was Dean Marney.

I think the contracts were reduced because we'd spunked all the parachute money from our year in the sun so I don't think anybody really blamed the players who left, even though nobody was especially pleased.

Paterson's move was of note because Super Scotty Arfield went in the opposite direction having been released by Huddersfield. Ho ho ho.

What would Alan Partridge have to say about this story? Needless to say, Burnley had the last laugh.
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Post by NewClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:22 pm

What’s clear from this thread is it’s happened to every manager across every era.

What I would say is I don’t really think Muric left under a cloud. For all we know the club asked him not to return to training if they were looking to/it’d been agreed they’d sell.

Same with Wout, there was probably an agreement in place he could leave if relegated.

In those two circumstances I don’t really consider them ‘bad leavers’

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:22 pm

How could we forget Kyle Lafferty?

Didn't he talk to the press about how the BFC fans didnt like him, to engineer a move to Celtic? Then we used the from him money (and some money we didnt have) to get promoted to the PL.
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Post by Herts Clarets » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:32 pm

I seem to remember an incident with Lafferty involving the old message board where he was going to seek out people who had criticised him, or something on those lines.
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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:40 pm

Darthlaw wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:22 pm
How could we forget Kyle Lafferty?

Didn't he talk to the press about how the BFC fans didnt like him, to engineer a move to Celtic? Then we used the from him money (and some money we didnt have) to get promoted to the PL.
Just a small correction :lol: , but it was Rangers ;)

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Darthlaw » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:49 pm

ŽižkovClaret wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:40 pm
Just a small correction :lol: , but it was Rangers ;)
Same difference? :twisted:

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Ptangyangkipperbang » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:54 pm

Didn't Leighton James leave for Derby saying he wanted to go and win things.I certainly remember him getting booed when he played for them on his return to the Turf

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by jlup1980 » Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:59 pm

Wout hasn't left on bad terms because he's still a Burnley player. We all know the history. Had we stayed up, he would have stayed and played. As it was, we were relegated, and the Netherlands manager told him he needed to be playing top flight football somewhere in order to be considered for a World Cup. Our fans booing him during pre-season last summer is far more embarrassing than anything Wout has done. At least he turned up for training - many haven't bothered when moves have been touted. He'll be gone this summer though and that will be the end of that. If we get good money for him then I wouldn't say he leaves on bad terms.
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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Juan Tanamera » Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:11 pm

Does anyone actually know how long the process was in Muric's transfer to Ipswich?
Is it possible that had permission from Burnley to sort out his future?

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:07 pm

Goliath wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 10:43 am
Bardsley, Mee and Pieters weren't too impressed with their treatment were they?
Bardsley was talking absolute rubbish, he went on talksport 2 months after leaving saying he found out 2 weeks after final game on social media that he wasn’t re signing. Yet his wife but a post on instagram the day after final game thanking Burnley for the last 5 years.

All for clout because he wanted a new club

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Re: BFC Players leaving on bad terms

Post by Goliath » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:33 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:07 pm
Bardsley was talking absolute rubbish, he went on talksport 2 months after leaving saying he found out 2 weeks after final game on social media that he wasn’t re signing. Yet his wife but a post on instagram the day after final game thanking Burnley for the last 5 years.

All for clout because he wanted a new club
I think he had assumed he wasn't being offered a new deal but to not call him or give him any confirmation seemed pretty poor form if true.

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Post by Stonehouse » Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:51 pm

I don’t think a certain Mr Mcilroy who fell out with Bob Lord or Alex Elder who Harry Potts fell out with left on good terms.
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