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Yeah I’d be shocked if we don’t see some incomings where you think yes Parker has had a say in that move
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Can anyone see us making anymore signings other than a keeper without a significant amount of departures? I would suggest we need between 5-10 to leave either permanently or on loan before we bring anyone else in, other than a keeper as said.
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We will move a lot on loan I reckon. Can’t see many clubs buying the lot we sent out on loan last seasonJarrowClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:20 amCan anyone see us making anymore signings other than a keeper without a significant amount of departures? I would suggest we need between 5-10 to leave either permanently or on loan before we bring anyone else in, other than a keeper as said.
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Back of the fag packet maths:JarrowClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:20 amCan anyone see us making anymore signings other than a keeper without a significant amount of departures? I would suggest we need between 5-10 to leave either permanently or on loan before we bring anyone else in, other than a keeper as said.
Certain to be in 25 man squad (unless sold):
Trafford, O'Shea, Beyer, Gudmundsson, Brownhill, Rodriguez, Benson, Redmond, Berge, Foster, Ekdal, Zaroury, Ramsey, Vitinho, Cullen, Amdouni, Al-Dakhil, Vigoroux, Koleosho (19 so won't count?), Esteve, Massengo, Odobert, Pires, Sambo, Houtondji - 24 Players (we may elect not to select Ramsey if he's out till Christmas. He's also 21 so I am unsure if he counts or not?).
(Plus: Costelloe, Dodgson, Agyei as 21 or under? I think...)
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Egan-Riley, Twine, Weghorst, Roberts, Bastien, Churlinov, Tresor, Delcroix, Obafemi, McNally - 10 Players
Would agree - we need to sell or loan out a ridiculous amount of players before we can realistically sign anyone else. I am unsure how the '21 and under' rule works though, could we theoretically sign players in that category with no impact upon squad?
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I think that’s probably about it tbh.JarrowClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:20 amCan anyone see us making anymore signings other than a keeper without a significant amount of departures? I would suggest we need between 5-10 to leave either permanently or on loan before we bring anyone else in, other than a keeper as said.
Unless we sell Berge and Brownhill then I think we will go big for a CM
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Odobert wouldn’t count either, don’t think Trafford would have to be registered eitherjedi_master wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:32 amBack of the fag packet maths:
Certain to be in 25 man squad (unless sold):
Trafford, O'Shea, Beyer, Gudmundsson, Brownhill, Rodriguez, Benson, Redmond, Berge, Foster, Ekdal, Zaroury, Ramsey, Vitinho, Cullen, Amdouni, Al-Dakhil, Vigoroux, Koleosho (19 so won't count?), Esteve, Massengo, Odobert, Pires, Sambo, Houtondji - 24 Players (we may elect not to select Ramsey if he's out till Christmas. He's also 21 so I am unsure if he counts or not?).
(Plus: Costelloe, Dodgson, Agyei as 21 or under? I think...)
Not in squad
Egan-Riley, Twine, Weghorst, Roberts, Bastien, Churlinov, Tresor, Delcroix, Obafemi, McNally - 10 Players
Would agree - we need to sell or loan out a ridiculous amount of players before we can realistically sign anyone else. I am unsure how the '21 and under' rule works though, could we theoretically sign players in that category with no impact upon squad?
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I still can’t believe just how many players VK was allowed to bring in. I’ve never known BFC to have such a bloated and unbalanced squad of misfits like this.
Some serious work is needed to shift a lot of these lads out because I’m still hoping that Scott Parker will be allowed to bring in a few players from the English game to help us out.
Some serious work is needed to shift a lot of these lads out because I’m still hoping that Scott Parker will be allowed to bring in a few players from the English game to help us out.
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New goalkeeper arriving in next few days will be Parkers first.ksrclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:04 pmI still can’t believe just how many players VK was allowed to bring in. I’ve never known BFC to have such a bloated and unbalanced squad of misfits like this.
Some serious work is needed to shift a lot of these lads out because I’m still hoping that Scott Parker will be allowed to bring in a few players from the English game to help us out.
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Are you specifically wanting English/British players to be brought in? Like Cullen, Twine, McNally, CJER, Trafford, Ramsey, Redmond, etc?ksrclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:04 pmI still can’t believe just how many players VK was allowed to bring in. I’ve never known BFC to have such a bloated and unbalanced squad of misfits like this.
Some serious work is needed to shift a lot of these lads out because I’m still hoping that Scott Parker will be allowed to bring in a few players from the English game to help us out.
Or players with experience of the English game/played for an English club previously? Like Muric, Berge, Massengo, O’Shea, Obafemi, etc?
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It’s exactly as I said in my previous post. I want Scott Parker to have the luxury of being able to choose a few players with experience of the British game.NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:15 pmAre you specifically wanting English/British players to be brought in? Like Cullen, Twine, McNally, CJER, Trafford, Ramsey, Redmond, etc?
Or players with experience of the English game/played for an English club previously? Like Muric, Berge, Massengo, O’Shea, Obafemi, etc?
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It’s insane just how much dross we have in that squad as well.ksrclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:04 pmI still can’t believe just how many players VK was allowed to bring in. I’ve never known BFC to have such a bloated and unbalanced squad of misfits like this.
Some serious work is needed to shift a lot of these lads out because I’m still hoping that Scott Parker will be allowed to bring in a few players from the English game to help us out.
Have we ever carried 10-15 first team players that just have no hope of game time?
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I don’t actually think we have a lot of ‘dross’ in the squad at all. Looking across it there’s probably no players you would consider aren’t able to play at Championship standard or equivalent foreign leagues, which does not make them ‘dross’. Also more internationals than I think we’ve ever had.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:28 pmIt’s insane just how much dross we have in that squad as well.
Have we ever carried 10-15 first team players that just have no hope of game time?
What I would say is we no longer have a lot of premier league quality players. But then we didn’t have a lot before, either. I’d say only Pope, Tarks, Mee, McNeil, Cornet, arguably Wout, and Wood before that were Premier League quality. So 5-6 which we’re trying to keep us up and couldn’t any longer.
I’d have said Muric was in that camp with last seasons stats which is why it’s frustrating to lose him. If we lose the few others we have who could consider themselves in that camp we’ll both find it a lot harder to go up and then even harder to stay up again.
Pace is at a crossroads with this club as to whether he can do it. Very important summer coming up.
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I rekon we will sign another 5 players with 3 of them being goalkeepers. Rekon loads will leave.
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Dross, deadwood, whatever you want to call them.NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:35 pmI don’t actually think we have a lot of ‘dross’ in the squad at all. Looking across it there’s probably no players you would consider aren’t able to play at Championship standard or equivalent foreign leagues, which does not make them ‘dross’. Also more internationals than I think we’ve ever had.
What I would say is we no longer have a lot of premier league quality players. But then we didn’t have a lot before, either. I’d say only Pope, Tarks, Mee, McNeil, Cornet, arguably Wout, and Wood before that were Premier League quality. So 5-6 which we’re trying to keep us up and couldn’t any longer.
I’d have said Muric was in that camp with last seasons stats which is why it’s frustrating to lose him. If we lose the few others we have who could consider themselves in that camp we’ll both find it a lot harder to go up and then even harder to stay up again.
Pace is at a crossroads with this club as to whether he can do it. Very important summer coming up.
Half of our squad will never ever play for Burnley again. In my opinion mid to low end championship quality is dross for a team like ours.
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Well it’s an odd one because on here we are linking so many of our players with moves to other bigger clubs, so there’s obviously some quality there.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:43 pmDross, deadwood, whatever you want to call them.
Half of our squad will never ever play for Burnley again. In my opinion mid to low end championship quality is dross for a team like ours.
And if they all go, as suspected, I’m imagining this deadwood/dross will play a lot more games than you think.
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I think it's really harsh to label lots of chaps in that (admittedly bloated!) squad as dross. Mainly because we're now down a level (and we know from recent experience it's a pretty serious drop in level) and plus many of them have had little or no opportunity to show whether they're dross or otherwise. It's a real conundrum for Parker tbf as he tries to sort out who stays and possibly features in matches once the season gets underway and who he ships out this summer, before he's had the opportunity to see how those players shape up in properly competitive matches.
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Yes an evidently the players that are getting big moves are in the other half of the squad.NewClaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:47 pmWell it’s an odd one because on here we are linking so many of our players with moves to other bigger clubs, so there’s obviously some quality there.
And if they all go, as suspected, I’m imagining this deadwood/dross will play a lot more games than you think.
Not seeing the likes of Twine, Bastien, McNally get massive moves are we. I think it’s fair to say nearly half of this squad will never play for Burnley again
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Now someone like you has said that I'll look forward to them playing for Burnley again 
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Twine has his suitors . Whether any of them are willing to pay what we want is another story. Could end up seeing him back in league 1 if Birmingham cough up.
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There'll almost certainly be more outgoings because of the sheer size of the squad. But players people are classing as 'dross' and 'deadwood' might be seen very differently by Scott Parker. Different coaching team, different system, different circumstances.
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The squad is bloated but far from full of dross.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 12:28 pmIt’s insane just how much dross we have in that squad as well.
Have we ever carried 10-15 first team players that just have no hope of game time?
Stop sensationalising everything so you get noticed. There's other social media outlets where you will get more bites and likes if that is what you crave.
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Does it not cross your mind that if ‘the other half of the squad’ as you describe it, get moved, the ‘dross and deadwood’ suddenly become important squad players.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:20 pmYes an evidently the players that are getting big moves are in the other half of the squad.
Not seeing the likes of Twine, Bastien, McNally get massive moves are we. I think it’s fair to say nearly half of this squad will never play for Burnley again
I’m not sure how you can make assumptions on playing time before Parker has even had a month training and a single pre-season game.
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I've got him on "ignore posts"Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:38 pmThe squad is bloated but far from full of dross.
Stop sensationalising everything so you get noticed. There's other social media outlets where you will get more bites and likes if that is what you crave.
Every now and then when somebody quotes him I remember why.
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Very tiresome indeed. And here I am replying to his dross.Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:38 pmThe squad is bloated but far from full of dross.
Stop sensationalising everything so you get noticed. There's other social media outlets where you will get more bites and likes if that is what you crave.
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He makes Chris Sutton sound relevant.Silkyskills1 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:54 pmVery tiresome indeed. And here I am replying to his dross.
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There's only 2 keepers in that squad so room would be needed for another unless an under-21 is trusted/risked to the third choice.jedi_master wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 11:32 amBack of the fag packet maths:
Certain to be in 25 man squad (unless sold):
Trafford, O'Shea, Beyer, Gudmundsson, Brownhill, Rodriguez, Benson, Redmond, Berge, Foster, Ekdal, Zaroury, Ramsey, Vitinho, Cullen, Amdouni, Al-Dakhil, Vigoroux, Koleosho (19 so won't count?), Esteve, Massengo, Odobert, Pires, Sambo, Houtondji - 24 Players (we may elect not to select Ramsey if he's out till Christmas. He's also 21 so I am unsure if he counts or not?).
(Plus: Costelloe, Dodgson, Agyei as 21 or under? I think...)
Not in squad
Egan-Riley, Twine, Weghorst, Roberts, Bastien, Churlinov, Tresor, Delcroix, Obafemi, McNally - 10 Players
Would agree - we need to sell or loan out a ridiculous amount of players before we can realistically sign anyone else. I am unsure how the '21 and under' rule works though, could we theoretically sign players in that category with no impact upon squad?
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What exactly is sensational about what I said?Quickenthetempo wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:38 pmThe squad is bloated but far from full of dross.
Stop sensationalising everything so you get noticed. There's other social media outlets where you will get more bites and likes if that is what you crave.
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It is probably down to the words you use, Koleosho todays has been described as "incredibly" raw and end product is "incredibly" poor
You could have said he is very young and will improve but it always needs a bit more in the description and pretty much always to describe anything negative. Then we have the dross comments about a load of others.
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And yet super excited about the new striker, without ever having seen him play and a YouTube ‘highlights’ reel that hardly sets the pulse racing.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:27 pmIt is probably down to the words you use, Koleosho todays has been described as "incredibly" raw and end product is "incredibly" poor
You could have said he is very young and will improve but it always needs a bit more in the description and pretty much always to describe anything negative. Then we have the dross comments about a load of others.
Consistently inconsistent.
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I also said he’s had a really promising season.claretonthecoast1882 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:27 pmIt is probably down to the words you use, Koleosho todays has been described as "incredibly" raw and end product is "incredibly" poor
You could have said he is very young and will improve but it always needs a bit more in the description and pretty much always to describe anything negative. Then we have the dross comments about a load of others.
Stating opinions that are slightly different to the norm doesn’t make them sensational.
You speak to anyone outside of this forum and nearly everyone agrees that we have a massively over bloated squad filled with half of them likely never going to feature again. In my opinion if they are not going to play again they are dross/deadwood that needs to be moved on
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Hopefully Charlie CasperTheFamilyCat wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:08 pmThere's only 2 keepers in that squad so room would be needed for another unless an under-21 is trusted/risked to the third choice.
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Calling the players dross.
Every single one of the squad that us fans have seen enough of to judge, are good enough for championship football.
The majority will be very good in there.
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We could say that about some posters who do nothing but cause disruption.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:35 pmIn my opinion if they are not going to play again they are dross/deadwood that needs to be moved on
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It is rather dismissive and mean to call people dross/deadwood whoever they are. Most people have potential to become more than they are at any one time.What makes a difference is willingness,an opportunity to learn and and a setting in which to do this. The opportunity for our squad players will be different under Scott Parker and his team than it was under Vincent Kompany. Lets look for improvement ; we might be very surprised by what we see this coming season. I'm really looking forward to a new begining and count it a privilege to have yet another year to watch the Clarets.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 2:35 pmI also said he’s had a really promising season.
Stating opinions that are slightly different to the norm doesn’t make them sensational.
You speak to anyone outside of this forum and nearly everyone agrees that we have a massively over bloated squad filled with half of them likely never going to feature again. In my opinion if they are not going to play again they are dross/deadwood that needs to be moved on
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surely it must be tiring being negative 24/7 365 days a year ?
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I could understand it if we were going through what we did in the mid 80's, late ish 90's and post ITV digital days but this has been and is now nothing like that, not even close to it.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:09 pmsurely it must be tiring being negative 24/7 365 days a year ?
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I don't actually think he knows the meaning of the words he used.Burtonwoodclaret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 3:50 pmIt is rather dismissive and mean to call people dross/deadwood whoever they are. Most people have potential to become more than they are at any one time.What makes a difference is willingness,an opportunity to learn and and a setting in which to do this. The opportunity for our squad players will be different under Scott Parker and his team than it was under Vincent Kompany. Lets look for improvement ; we might be very surprised by what we see this coming season. I'm really looking forward to a new begining and count it a privilege to have yet another year to watch the Clarets.
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Tommy Conroy is being sidelined for not signing a new contract at Bristol perhaps a Scott Twine swop possible
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We don't need gaelic footballers
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Calling McNally and Twine dross is just stupidity, McNally had a great season on loan at Coventry and a tougher time at Stoke last year. He’s a young lad who was signed for £1m with the hope he progresses to become good enough or to sell for a profit. Twine was unfortunate with injuries here but did contribute something.
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We don't have any players that are "dross"KRBFC wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 6:22 pmCalling McNally and Twine dross is just stupidity, McNally had a great season on loan at Coventry and a tougher time at Stoke last year. He’s a young lad who was signed for £1m with the hope he progresses to become good enough or to sell for a profit. Twine was unfortunate with injuries here but did contribute something.
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It’s quite possibly my only slightly negative post in the last two months.Vegas Claret wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 4:09 pmsurely it must be tiring being negative 24/7 365 days a year ?
I can almost guarantee that if any other poster said that there wouldn’t be twenty replies
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If I say something negative I might get 2 or 3 comments, if you get twenty surely you'd ask yourself why ? You aren't being targeted that's for sure, I'm not sure I've ever seen that happen to anyone as for the most part we are a decent and fair bunch (imho). It seems you calling loads of our players crap has annoyed people because it's simply not the case, if you don't particularly like the response to your words then chose them more carefully. I often reword things because I don't want them to be misconstrued..............although that bloody 5 min edit has got me a few timesNewcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:15 pmIt’s quite possibly my only slightly negative post in the last two months.
I can almost guarantee that if any other poster said that there wouldn’t be twenty replies

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“Twenty” - there’s yet another exaggeration.Newcastleclaret93 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 9:15 pmIt’s quite possibly my only slightly negative post in the last two months.
I can almost guarantee that if any other poster said that there wouldn’t be twenty replies
It’s almost like you have a reputation, isn’t it….?!
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New Burnley head coach Scott Parker is taking a close look at Scott Twine, with the 25-year-old having scored a 45 minute hat-trick in a behind-closed-doors friendly for the Clarets vs Barnsley.ArmchairDetective wrote: ↑Thu Jul 18, 2024 1:35 pmThere'll almost certainly be more outgoings because of the sheer size of the squad. But players people are classing as 'dross' and 'deadwood' might be seen very differently by Scott Parker. Different coaching team, different system, different circumstances.
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Hardly ground breaking news, new manager talks a longer look at his current squadArmchairDetective wrote: ↑Fri Jul 19, 2024 12:26 amNew Burnley head coach Scott Parker is taking a close look at Scott Twine, with the 25-year-old having scored a 45 minute hat-trick in a behind-closed-doors friendly for the Clarets vs Barnsley.
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