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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:59 am

VK chased him and said he was a star
Perhaps we have a case under the trade description act.A loan to buy to Bayern Munich?

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Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:38 am

Would be interesting to see him given a run of games this season. See him in action.

Hopefully Parker has been in contact with him.
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Post by kaptin1 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:31 pm

With Tresor, I guess you have to consider mental health issues etc as to why he hasn’t returned to training (if true) as last year must have been pretty horrible for him. That said, he’s doing himself no good. This will sour his reputation as a person and not just a player. It also means he won’t be remotely match fit if anyone does decide to take him off our hands, which means he’s going to miss games getting back up to speed. All of that said, it’s put the club in a very difficult situation with an expensive signing effectively downing tools.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:44 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:38 am
Would be interesting to see him given a run of games this season. See him in action.

Hopefully Parker has been in contact with him.
Hope so.

I always think with players not returning to their club that it’s been mutually agreed. It’s not in anyone’s interests to have unhappy players back at pre season training but in Tresor’s case - where he was pretty poor when given a chance and with a new manager coming in I’d expect he’d be the first one there.

A shame overall because there is clearly a good player in there. Like Muric, situation mismanaged.

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Post by Juan Tanamera » Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:55 pm

kaptin1 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:31 pm
With Tresor, I guess you have to consider mental health issues etc as to why he hasn’t returned to training (if true) as last year must have been pretty horrible for him. That said, he’s doing himself no good. This will sour his reputation as a person and not just a player. It also means he won’t be remotely match fit if anyone does decide to take him off our hands, which means he’s going to miss games getting back up to speed. All of that said, it’s put the club in a very difficult situation with an expensive signing effectively downing tools.
Does anyone know for sure if Tresor has actually downed tools?
Has someone been down to Gawthorpe and done a head count or is it just hearsay?

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Post by Goliath » Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:03 pm

Maybe this is why there has been such a lack of footage from pre season. They clearly have it available as there were a few clips in something posted the other day so they've clearly got the media cameras there.
Possibly under instruction not to post so we can't see who hasn't turned up

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:18 pm

I never understood why Benny was blanked by VK yet Magic Mike got a start. He never appeared remotely interested when on.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:20 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:12 am
If we are signing a new keeper to replace Trafford it surely makes sense to target a homegrown one. Travers would meet that requirement but swapping Muric & Trafford for Travers & Hladky would clearly be a downgrade. Rather spend then 3-5m on Cooper from Plymouth.
Slight risk with him, very young but already had 2 big injuries. Missed a full year at Plymouth from memory and has apparently turned down their new contract offer so is in his last year.

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Post by Boss Hogg » Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:58 pm

Woodleyclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:18 pm
I never understood why Benny was blanked by VK yet Magic Mike got a start. He never appeared remotely interested when on.
Maybe down to the manager’s ego, stubbornness, having to be proved right when everyone knew it wasn’t and having favourites and personal vendettas.

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Post by billyhamilton82 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:29 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:12 am
If we are signing a new keeper to replace Trafford it surely makes sense to target a homegrown one. Travers would meet that requirement but swapping Muric & Trafford for Travers & Hladky would clearly be a downgrade. Rather spend then 3-5m on Cooper from Plymouth.
I totally disagree.

Is Trafford and Muric for Travers & Hladky a downgrade?

Both Travers & Hladky have both played full seasons for their respective clubs achieving automatic promotion from the Championship.

Travers as a runners up and Hladky as Champions.

The only thing we are missing is their potential for which we be compensated in the region of £35 million possibly rising to £45 million.

That said, Travers is still only 25 and the same age as Muric.

I just think that its brilliant business.

Is Cooper that much better than Travers?

Now that's a separate discussion.

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:41 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:55 pm
Does anyone know for sure if Tresor has actually downed tools?
Has someone been down to Gawthorpe and done a head count or is it just hearsay?
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Post by Row x » Sun Jul 21, 2024 5:56 pm

Juan Tanamera wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 1:55 pm
Does anyone know for sure if Tresor has actually downed tools?
Has someone been down to Gawthorpe and done a head count or is it just hearsay?
I've mentioned before that if its true, I find it astonishing that none of the Belgian journalists have picked up on it.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:01 pm

You’d imagine if he’s not at training then he’s not getting paid

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:03 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:01 pm
You’d imagine if he’s not at training then he’s not getting paid
Probably getting find but it will be peanuts in relation to his salary

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Post by Burnley Ace » Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:11 pm

Boss Hogg wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 2:58 pm
Maybe down to the manager’s ego, stubbornness, having to be proved right when everyone knew it wasn’t and having favourites and personal vendettas.
Maybe he was just too lightweight for the Premiership, whenever he did come on his contribution was zero.

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Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:11 pm

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:03 pm
Probably getting find but it will be peanuts in relation to his salary
Find first, fined second
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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:12 pm

warksclaret wrote:
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Find first, fined second
Damn auto correct
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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:44 pm

Burnley Ace wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 6:11 pm
Maybe he was just too lightweight for the Premiership, whenever he did come on his contribution was zero.
I believe he picked up some sort of illness last season. VK mentioned it in an interview.

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Post by NewClaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:53 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:44 pm
I believe he picked up some sort of illness last season. VK mentioned it in an interview.
That’s a good point, I’d forgotten about that.

Could be an ongoing issue for all we know.

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Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:19 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:44 pm
I believe he picked up some sort of illness last season. VK mentioned it in an interview.
It would be good to be informed, even slightly, to avoid conspiracy theories.

It would make sense though, especially considering the Belgian press aren't saying anything about him, no agent talk about moving anywhere.

Strange one this.
I hope he's ok.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:29 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:20 pm
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8t517y

illness.
5 months ago, he’s played since then and posted on social media travelling around the world

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:31 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:29 pm
5 months ago, he’s played since then and posted on social media travelling around the world
So what is the problem? Are people who have been ill barred from international travel?
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:40 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:31 pm
So what is the problem? Are people who have been ill barred from international travel?
I’m saying if it was a illness that stopped him from reporting to training, he wouldn’t be posting all over his social media travelling and wouldn’t of been in the match day squads at the end of the season

It seems more plausible that his transfer is more complicated then we know and he is angling for a move away just like muric was

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Post by burnley007 » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:44 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:40 pm
I’m saying if it was a illness that stopped him from reporting to training, he wouldn’t be posting all over his social media travelling and wouldn’t of been in the match day squads at the end of the season

It seems more plausible that his transfer is more complicated then we know and he is angling for a move away just like muric was
Are you a doctor?

Who says you can't travel when 'ill'? Illness isn't always physical.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:47 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:44 pm
Are you a doctor?

Who says you can't travel when 'ill'? Illness isn't always physical.
So you think that after the foster situation the club would allow fans to speculate about his whereabouts if he had an none physical illness, come on your splitting hairs

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:47 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:40 pm
I’m saying if it was a illness that stopped him from reporting to training, he wouldn’t be posting all over his social media travelling and wouldn’t of been in the match day squads at the end of the season

It seems more plausible that his transfer is more complicated then we know and he is angling for a move away just like muric was
Or perhaps he can't sustain match fitness since his illness? We don't know anything, but I'm surprised that people are so inclined towards some kind of misbehaviour from the player.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:49 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:47 pm
Or perhaps he can't sustain match fitness since his illness? We don't know anything, but I'm surprised that people are so inclined towards some kind of misbehaviour from the player.
He’s played since kompany talked about his illness 5 months ago

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:57 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:49 pm
He’s played since kompany talked about his illness 5 months ago
Yes, I know that. But not very well.
For all we know he's had an awful time at Burnley which could have affected his wellbeing.
Has he been treated well?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:01 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:57 pm
Yes, I know that. But not very well.
For all we know he's had an awful time at Burnley which could have affected his wellbeing.
Has he been treated well?
Right and as I’ve said with the whole foster situation do you really think the club would leave it for people to speculate about his whereabouts

Nobody knows if he’s been treated well or if he’s treated being a Burnley player well either

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:06 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:01 pm
Right and as I’ve said with the whole foster situation do you really think the club would leave it for people to speculate about his whereabouts

Well, I seem to be reading plenty of speculation on here.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:12 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:06 pm
Well, I seem to be reading plenty of speculation on here.
Exactly, if there was a non physical illness that’s stopping him from training then the club would make the fans aware like they did with foster

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Post by wilks_bfc » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:22 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:12 pm
Exactly, if there was a non physical illness that’s stopping him from training then the club would make the fans aware like they did with foster
They only made us aware because Foster wanted us to be aware.

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:22 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:12 pm
Exactly, if there was a non physical illness that’s stopping him from training then the club would make the fans aware like they did with foster
TBF, the club can't stop speculation from the fans.
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Post by taio » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:26 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:12 pm
Exactly, if there was a non physical illness that’s stopping him from training then the club would make the fans aware like they did with foster
Individual decision

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Post by NL Claret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:37 pm

It has been mentioned that the club wanted to back out of the obligation to turn Tresor’s loan into a permanent deal. If he’s not welcome at the club permanently then why should he bother returning.

Raises more questions about the transfer window last summer than the player.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:39 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:37 pm
It has been mentioned that the club wanted to back out of the obligation to turn Tresor’s loan into a permanent deal. If he’s not welcome at the club permanently then why should he bother returning.

Raises more questions about the transfer window last summer than the player.
You think trying to back out of the deal will just be a club decision? For all we know the player could of asked his agent to try and get out of the deal

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:48 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:39 pm
You think trying to back out of the deal will just be a club decision? For all we know the player could of asked his agent to try and get out of the deal

So we are keeping him against his will? Doubtful, this.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:59 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:48 pm
So we are keeping him against his will? Doubtful, this.
No that’s not what I’m saying, stop miss reading and creating things in your mind. The post was saying why would he want to come back to the club if we tried to pull out of the deal. All I said was what if he wanted to pull out of the deal himself asked his agent to speak to the club and then the club have tried to get out of the deal

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:04 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:59 pm
No that’s not what I’m saying, stop miss reading and creating things in your mind. The post was saying why would he want to come back to the club if we tried to pull out of the deal. All I said was what if he wanted to pull out of the deal himself asked his agent to speak to the club and then the club have tried to get out of the deal

Yes, I'm sure he could have done that through his agent, and it looks as if the club would be more than happy to do this.
So explain we your scenario hasn't materialised as fact. perhaps it will soon.

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Post by NL Claret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:11 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:59 pm
No that’s not what I’m saying, stop miss reading and creating things in your mind. The post was saying why would he want to come back to the club if we tried to pull out of the deal. All I said was what if he wanted to pull out of the deal himself asked his agent to speak to the club and then the club have tried to get out of the deal
Why would he and his agent want to pull out of a guaranteed/ deal contract ?

Tresor is Another turd that VK left behind

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Post by claretskeith » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:14 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:11 pm
Tresor is Another turd that VK left behind
This 'turd' of a squad that Kompany 'left behind' is better than what was here 2 years ago.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:15 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:04 pm
Yes, I'm sure he could have done that through his agent, and it looks as if the club would be more than happy to do this.
So explain we your scenario hasn't materialised as fact. perhaps it will soon.
Explain why my scenario hasn’t materialised? Quite simple there isn’t a club interested in him and if it’s a case of the player wants to leave then the club will have a fee they want.

Don’t understand what your problem is and what situation you are trying to create

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:16 pm

NL Claret wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:11 pm
Why would he and his agent want to pull out of a guaranteed/ deal contract ?

Tresor is Another turd that VK left behind
Because he had a guaranteed deal still at genk, instead of a 40% relegation clause in his contract

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:19 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:15 pm
Explain why my scenario hasn’t materialised? Quite simple there isn’t a club interested in him and if it’s a case of the player wants to leave then the club will have a fee they want.

Don’t understand what your problem is and what situation you are trying to create
I'm not trying to create any situations.
All I am seeing is poxy theories based on scenario rather than fact, and quite frankly I've had about enough of it.

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Post by Stonehouse » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:21 pm

Have we ever signed so many players who have either physical or psychological problems that have resulted in them being unable to play in such a short time ? First Churlinov then Foster and now it appears there’s problems with Tresor.Are we just unlucky or are the pre signing checks not fit for purpose?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:21 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:19 pm
I'm not trying to create any situations.
All I am seeing is poxy theories based on scenario rather than fact, and quite frankly I've had about enough of it.
You aren’t talking in facts either, nobody is forcing you to respond to any fans theories on his whereabouts or if he wants to be at the club or not. Don’t respond if it bothers you so much.

It’s really not that big of a deal

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Post by boatshed bill » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:23 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:21 pm
You aren’t talking in facts either, nobody is forcing you to respond to any fans theories on his whereabouts or if he wants to be at the club or not. Don’t respond if it bothers you so much.

It’s really not that big of a deal
Why not lay off the player until the facts are available? Seems a good idea, doesn't it?

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:25 pm

boatshed bill wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:23 pm
Why not lay off the player until the facts are available? Seems a good idea, doesn't it?
Bore off, it’s a discussion forum, where people are going to speculate about players. Your whole issue comes from another poster speculating that he might have an illness, to another poster speculating that he just doesn’t want to be at the club at all. If you’ve had enough of it don’t read the discussion forum

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by warksclaret » Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:28 pm

Stonehouse wrote:
Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:21 pm
Have we ever signed so many players who have either physical or psychological problems that have resulted in them being unable to play in such a short time ? First Churlinov then Foster and now it appears there’s problems with Tresor.Are we just unlucky or are the pre signing checks not fit for purpose?
It seems that way Stonehouse, and reading your post brought back memories of when Connor Roberts was quite seriously ill, and that not after recovering from an injury he was carrying when he first signed for us
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