£55 for a home ticket

[distortiondave]

I think the drive is more towards having maximum season ticket holders and extensive waiting list.
If a season ticket is £500, and 5 home games are £50 each, 12 are £40 and 6 are £30 (for ease of maths), and you can only attend half the games, then you will be paying £450 for those tickets on average, making a Season Ticket much more attractive, attractiveness which only increases the more £50 games there are and the fewer £30 games there are.

Obviously they have to keep 3000 tickets or so available for walk ons, so they are in effect subsidising everyone elses season ticket.

[Barry_Chuckle]

There are a grand total of five tickets available at £55 for Portsmouth at home. PRICING ALL FANS OUT.

Basic marketing strategy, release so many tickets to make it look like a near sell out, people panic and buy what's available, then said business release more tickets. BFC did this on numerous occasions last season.

I have a ST, but for what it's worth, I'd not be paying anything over £20 to potentially get wet through in the lower tiers, and at those prices my 50 years of adding to the coffers of BFC will be over if my circumstances change and I have to give my ST up, and that includes increasing ST prices to a level I think is too high at that time.

[ŽižkovClaret]

I don’t think you have a grasp of reality then. Because there’s not just 5 seats that are now valued at £55 per game. There may be 5 available seats valued at £55 per game but there are lots of season ticket holders who next season will no doubt be on the end of a significant price rise justified by the fact that they sit in a seat that is ‘worth’ £55 per game. I don’t think you’re naive enough to not realise this.

I'm just not going to worry myself about something that might happen, some time in the future, that i have no agency over.

What would be the point?

https://positivepsychology.com/circles-of-influence/

[RVclaret]

Basic marketing strategy, release so many tickets to make it look like a near sell out, people panic and buy what's available, then said business release more tickets. BFC did this on numerous occasions last season.

I have a ST, but for what it's worth, I'd not be paying anything over £20 to potentially get wet through in the lower tiers, and at those prices my 50 years of adding to the coffers of BFC will be over if my circumstances change and I have to give my ST up, and that includes increasing ST prices to a level I think is too high at that time.

Wasn’t the ‘releasing of tickets’ nearer the kick off due to season ticket holders allowing their seat to be purchased using the new scheme they set up?

[Rileybobs]

I'm just not going to worry myself about something that might happen, some time in the future, that i have no agency over.

What would be the point?

https://positivepsychology.com/circles-of-influence/

I think you’re confusing worry with discussion.

[ŽižkovClaret]

I don’t think you have a grasp of reality then. Because there’s not just 5 seats that are now valued at £55 per game. There may be 5 available seats valued at £55 per game but there are lots of season ticket holders who next season will no doubt be on the end of a significant price rise justified by the fact that they sit in a seat that is ‘worth’ £55 per game. I don’t think you’re naive enough to not realise this.

A discussion based on hypothetical assumptions of some heinous price rise that i've no control over, and therefore choose not to wind myself up about, no?

[Rileybobs]

A discussion based on hypothetical assumptions of some heinous price rise that i've no control over, and therefore choose not to wind myself up about, no?

Nobody is winding themselves up as far as I can see. And I think you’ll find that none of us have any real control over anything that happens re BFC, so this place would be rather dull if we only discussed things we did have control over.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Nobody is winding themselves up as far as I can see. And I think you’ll find that none of us have any real control over anything that happens re BFC, so this place would be rather dull if we only discussed things we did have control over.

Yet by not ranting about prices, i apparently don't have a grasp of reality?

I would argue, that acknowledging that some tickets will be 55 quid, and as an entertainment business, that is far from above the market pricing, is having a perfectly fine grip on the reality of modern football. That some people don't like it, doesn't make it any less true

[burnmark]

It’s funny that Portsmouth is considered a Category A game too. Some of you can’t see the wood for the trees.

I think they are banking on a bumper away following (well supported newly promoted club, not played at Turf Moor in ages) and wanting to grab a few extra quid as it looks like away tickets for category A games will be above £30 judging by comparative seats in the home end.

[alf_resco]

BFC is a business run by businessmen. The general aim is to make as much money as possible so prices are continually pushed up to what people are prepared to pay. If folk pay up, prices will keep rising - the simple law of supply and demand.
Shirt prices are a classic example: a piece of polyester that costs about 20p in the far-east is sold at the best part of £70. People are daft enough to pay it because apparently they and/or their kid(s) "must have" one. Well they can refuse and show their allegiance by wearing a claret & blue scarf for a couple of quid. Their choice.
Don't moan - don't buy. The "businessmen" will soon get the message.

[Rileybobs]

Yet by not ranting about prices, i apparently don't have a grasp of reality?

I would argue, that acknowledging that some tickets will be 55 quid, and as an entertainment business, that is far from above the market pricing, is having a perfectly fine grip on the reality of modern football. That some people don't like it, doesn't make it any less true

The comment about having a grasp of reality was in response to your claim that only a grand total of 5 seats will be sold at £55. Which completely misses the point that this is currently the available number of seats in that price bracket and therefore it inflates the value and almost certainly future price of all season tickets within that area.

Again, nobody is denying the reality of football finance, or the business rationale behind this pricing. Some people are disagreeing with it and are well within their rights to do so without being called out for ‘ranting’ etc.

Anyway, you’ve made your stance clear that you’re in agreement with this price and believe this is below market value so I guess there’s little point going round in circles.

[Rileybobs]

BFC is a business run by businessmen. The general aim is to make as much money as possible so prices are continually pushed up to what people are prepared to pay. If folk pay up, prices will keep rising - the simple law of supply and demand.
Shirt prices are a classic example: a piece of polyester that costs about 20p in the far-east is sold at the best part of £70. People are daft enough to pay it because apparently they and/or their kid(s) "must have" one. Well they can refuse and show their allegiance by wearing a claret & blue scarf for a couple of quid. Their choice.
Don't moan - don't buy. The "businessmen" will soon get the message.

This is true, however nobody is moaning and I don’t believe anybody is buying. These price rises are indicative of future trends, I think that’s clear to see. And I’m sure most of us see BFC as more than just a product, for many it’s a way of life, and this loyalty is being exploited by, as you say - businessmen. It’s fine to acknowledge this is the reality whilst also not liking it. BFC can still exist and compete without wringing every available penny out of supporters.

[GetIntoEm]

I think the point is that someone will likely buy them. Is the difference between £43 and £55 enough to put someone off buying in that specific area? Probably not.

If the tickets sell, their pricing is justified.

It's a business, it's their job to maximise revenue.

Do I think £55 for a football match is too much, yes. Do I think over a £100 for any major concert these days is too much, yes.

I also think 90p is too much for a pint of milk.

There's very little me or you can do about it, it's an entertainment activity, you either pay it or you don't. It's optional.

However it does make our season tickets look like even more exceptional value now.

[Den_Perry]

Not sure why they have made Portsmouth a top category game.

Just looking at other matchday pricing…..I sorted some friends/work colleagues out for Blackburn Rovers tickets in the Jimmy Mc box the last time we were in the Championship. It included a once course meal and a half time cake and it was £150 a ticket (other games were around the £80-90 mark I seem to recall).

They are now charging £160 (including booking fee) just for the ticket. It’s an extra £80 on top of this if you want some street food giving a total of £240 (so a 60% increase in 2 years) for the same thing!

[Row x]

Not sure why they have made Portsmouth a top category game.

Just looking at other matchday pricing…..I sorted some friends/work colleagues out for Blackburn Rovers tickets in the Jimmy Mc box the last time we were in the Championship. It included a once course meal and a half time cake and it was £150 a ticket (other games were around the £80-90 mark I seem to recall).

They are now charging £160 (including booking fee) just for the ticket. It’s an extra £80 on top of this if you want some street food giving a total of £240 (so a 60% increase in 2 years) for the same thing!

Will Portsmouth not be a cat A because they expect a large following from them?

[burnmark]

West Ham home prices v City - horrifying!

🫣🫣🫣

[NewClaret]

However it does make our season tickets look like even more exceptional value now.

This is the point that everyone seems to be missing.

Mr Pace cares not a jot about selling the 10 tickets left for £55 for each game. He cares about season ticket holders feeling all warm and fuzzy inside about the great value season ticket they have bought - saving ~£30 a game. And therefore renewing next year.

[BleedingClaret]

I think the point is that someone will likely buy them. Is the difference between £43 and £55 enough to put someone off buying in that specific area? Probably not.

If the tickets sell, their pricing is justified.

It's a business, it's their job to maximise revenue.

Do I think £55 for a football match is too much, yes. Do I think over a £100 for any major concert these days is too much, yes.

I also think 90p is too much for a pint of milk.

There's very little me or you can do about it, it's an entertainment activity, you either pay it or you don't. It's optional.

However it does make our season tickets look like even more exceptional value now.

Agree in principal with all your points

I do think the rule like not being able to sell all the season tickets don’t help
Some will say that those moaning about the walk on prices should have bought a season ticket, many though would have faced with the walk on prices but they can’t.

So the remaking tickets at inflated prices, prices out some genuine fans and leads to the availability for them possibly going to away fans and or tourists instead to

[RammyClaret61]

These are only for Cat A games, though.

What were comparative ticket prices in the last promotion season, out of interest?

Ok… I hold my hand up, I actually didn’t know we had A, B & C categories. I just looked at the Cardiff game, begging the question why is Cardiff cat A? I still think £26 for the JML, for what even the club feel is poor opposition is to much.

[pureclaret]

Whilst I understand that people all have different incomes to outgoings and that we all prioritise different things , the cost for a season ticket seat in the Bob lord quotes at £55 per game (a) is in fact only £24 for season ticket holders (£15 for senior people) . But I am finding costs for everything has /is going up We don't go out that often for meals, but places we used to go in or around Manchester (2 of our children live there) have gone from £6.99 for a burger with chips and a pint of beer at £2:50 (2022) to £12;99 for the burgers and £3;99 to £4:50 a pint of beer (2024)

Don't go to many concerts (apart from school for the grandchildrens shows) but had considered going to see the eagles but at £120 to £499 a ticket plus £2;50 booking fee we decided not to on that basis if you were to go to 1 concert a month that's £120 where 3 games per month is £75 in BL
I don't think overall the cost for football for me is too bad especially as a senior suporter this year my season ticket has gone down £200.
I agree £55 is a lot but if you only attend 2 or 3 times a year its not that bad , if you attend more than 10 games it would be better to get a season ticket.

[NewClaret]

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I think the drive is more towards having maximum season ticket holders and extensive waiting list.
If a season ticket is £500, and 5 home games are £50 each, 12 are £40 and 6 are £30 (for ease of maths), and you can only attend half the games, then you will be paying £450 for those tickets on average, making a Season Ticket much more attractive, attractiveness which only increases the more £50 games there are and the fewer £30 games there are.

Obviously they have to keep 3000 tickets or so available for walk ons, so they are in effect subsidising everyone elses season ticket.

I agree with all of your post.

I’m not sure we have to/are retaining as many as 3k for walk ons though. Looks no more than 1.5k looking at available seats and far fewer for some games.

[claretonthecoast1882]

Ok… I hold my hand up, I actually didn’t know we had A, B & C categories. I just looked at the Cardiff game, begging the question why is Cardiff cat A? I still think £26 for the JML, for what even the club feel is poor opposition is to much.

That is the way football has gone over the years. It isn't that long since we often had fans mocking the previous board for announcing a price freeze on tickets. You often read that when you compare Burnley to any other area that the other area is bigger, has more fans, is a more affluent area. There is always an excuse for the prices being high everywhere else.

Fleetwood adult tickets are £24 to stand up and £26 to sit for Cat A games. It gets reduced by £1 if it is a Cat B game.

People shrug there shoulders when travel companies exploit people going away in the school holidays, when rail companies put trains up when there is an event on, when flight companies put flights to Germany up for the Euro's, when hotels put prices up when something is on in that area and class it as supply and demand when they pay it.

If people disagree with the pricing there will be loads of empty seats.

[jrgbfc]

No season ticket for me this year. Don't think i'll bother at those prices, apart from a few cheaper games, they've pushed it past the limit of what i'm willing to pay without feeling like a complete mug.
I'll do most of the aways and go watch Colne or Padiham.

[BleedingClaret]

Agree in principal with all your points

I do think the rule like not being able to sell all the season tickets don’t help
Some will say that those moaning about the walk on prices should have bought a season ticket, many though would have faced with the walk on prices but they can’t.

So the remaking tickets at inflated prices, prices out some genuine fans and leads to the availability for them possibly going to away fans and or tourists instead to

I’d just like to confirm that my first language is English, for those in doubt.
I need to proof read my entries.

[1989_claret]

Where's the FAB with their opinion on this or do they only comment on what the kits are going to look like?

[GetIntoEm]

And also the fact that a monthly interest free direct debit would work out less, you'd get to go to all the games and sell any back you can't. Getting a season ticket makes more sense than ever

[bart_claret]

And also the fact that a monthly interest free direct debit would work out less, you'd get to go to all the games and sell any back you can't. Getting a season ticket makes more sense than ever

Yes but you then wouldn't be able to moan about the extortionate ticket prices. Where's the fun in that?

[ClaretTony]

This is the point that everyone seems to be missing.

Mr Pace cares not a jot about selling the 10 tickets left for £55 for each game. He cares about season ticket holders feeling all warm and fuzzy inside about the great value season ticket they have bought - saving ~£30 a game. And therefore renewing next year.

He cares about season ticket holders feeling all warm and fuzzy inside about the great value season they they have just bought?

Is that because seniors got a 25% increase with young adults much more, as much as a 142% increase in one area?

[Leisure]

Agree in principal with all your points

I do think the rule like not being able to sell all the season tickets don’t help
Some will say that those moaning about the walk on prices should have bought a season ticket, many though would have faced with the walk on prices but they can’t.

So the remaking tickets at inflated prices, prices out some genuine fans and leads to the availability for them possibly going to away fans and or tourists instead to

Dave - Whilst the restriction on not being able to sell all seats as ST's applies in the PL, I'm not sure that that's the case in the Championship. But even if it's not a requirement to retain some for walk-ins, by selling them all this season would presumably cause an issue next season if (when) we get promoted.

[BleedingClaret]

Hi Pete
They could have maybe sold them with the caveat that they won’t automatically renew if we get promoted?

[blatherwickstattoos]

Getting rinsed off a few pages on Facebook. Football away days etc. not a good look for the club, if their marketing PR is taking note or not is another story

[ŽižkovClaret]

Getting rinsed off a few pages on Facebook. Football away days etc. not a good look for the club, if their marketing PR is taking note or not is another story

Oh no, whatever will we do. Bet Reddit is in meltdown too eh?

[Leisure]

Rovers game now showing no seats available, so the £55 doesn't seem to have detered people.

[jrgbfc]

For a one off game against that lot people will suck it up and pay it. Bet we won't sell many more out.

[ClaretTony]

It isn't that long since we often had fans mocking the previous board for announcing a price freeze on tickets.

Who on earth was mocking them for freezing prices. A lot of clubs have frozen prices for a lot longer than us, Stoke for example have not increased prices since 2007.

[ISpeds00]

Another day - another winge fest
IF you've no intentions of purchasing a ticket at the given prices - then dont
They wont change and if anything will be more expensive again next year

[KRBFC]

Shocking lack of understanding from Pace and co, they should maybe spend more time in the town. This isn’t London. £55 for a Championship game

[blatherwickstattoos]

Oh no, whatever will we do. Bet Reddit is in meltdown too eh?

Not sure what you mean. Only saying what I’ve seen first hand today. Should I not mention other clubs mocking us? Is that just what we do on here?

[ŽižkovClaret]

Not sure what you mean. Only saying what I’ve seen first hand today. Should I not mention other clubs mocking us? Is that just what we do on here?

There's just not many matters that merit giving a shiny s***e what fans of other clubs think about. We are Burnley FC, don't like us? We don't give a s**t. Suck it up.

[ClaretInLeeds]

Who on earth was mocking them for freezing prices. A lot of clubs have frozen prices for a lot longer than us, Stoke for example have not increased prices since 2007.

Yeah, but Stoke is stuck in 2007.

[blatherwickstattoos]

There's just not many matters that merit giving a shiny s***e what fans of other clubs think about. We are Burnley FC, don't like us? We don't give a s**t. Suck it up.

I actually agree. Just thought I’d share what I’ve seen. Not my personal view. The headline is misleading but one thing I do think that club have ballsed up on is making pompy a cat A game

[Leisure]

Hi Pete
They could have maybe sold them with the caveat that they won’t automatically renew if we get promoted?

Could have done but they'd then have some very unhappy people!

[ŽižkovClaret]

I actually agree. Just thought I’d share what I’ve seen. Not my personal view. The headline is misleading but one thing I do think that club have ballsed up on is making pompy a cat A game

It does kind of hint at deciding x amount of games should be Cat A then having to pick a last one to reach said number.

[Leisure]

Shocking lack of understanding from Pace and co, they should maybe spend more time in the town. This isn’t London. £55 for a Championship game

They appear to have sold out for the Rovers game.

[ŽižkovClaret]

Could have done but they'd then have some very unhappy people!

Aye, think this thread demonstrates how little encouragement some fans need to complain about the club

[Leisure]

For a one off game against that lot people will suck it up and pay it. Bet we won't sell many more out.

We probably wouldn't sell many more out even if the top price was far less than £55.

[blatherwickstattoos]

We will sell out most games. Generate and demand is what business is I guess. Long gone are the days the working class family can have a day out now.

[ClaretTony]

Aye, think this thread demonstrates how little encouragement some fans need to complain about the club

Doesn't need much encouragement with some of those prices - the increases are outrageous.

[boyyanno]

What's weird is that some of our fan base don't yet seem to recognise the owners for what they are.

For all the crap about how they would significantly raise income streams from various sources it's quite clear the real plan is to "squeeze every penny" and rip off supporters for as much as they can.

From what I can see prices are up across the board from the previous Championship season and it looks to be a significant percentage increase. That's to add on to the other increases too.

Anyone defending these jokers is just okaying a regime that is clearly going to hike prices with no care for the fans.

[ŽižkovClaret]

What's weird is that some of our fan base don't yet seem to recognise the owners for what they are.

For all the crap about how they would significantly raise income streams from various sources it's quite clear the real plan is to "squeeze every penny" and rip off supporters for as much as they can.

From what I can see prices are up across the board from the previous Championship season and it looks to be a significant percentage increase. That's to add on to the other increases too.

Anyone defending these jokers is just okaying a regime that is clearly going to hike prices with no care for the fans.

What would you suggest? Picket lines outside the Bob Lord entrance?