Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[ecc]

HTIC is one of the most unreliable sites. Sure it's a 15-year-old sat in his bedroom in Dorking.

[KlyBfc]

Ben Mee back in return and 20-30 million. I'm sold.

20-30m and Ben Mee can stay where he is, his ship has sailed for me and we don’t need an injury prone veteran.

[boatshed bill]

20-30m and Ben Mee can stay where he is, his ship has sailed for me and we don’t need an injury prone veteran.

I'd take that in an instant, but surely it's rubbish?

[GetIntoEm]

We've better players than Mee now unfortunately

[dandeclaret]

If they were to lose O’Shea and Berge it would be far from ideal. 2 important parts of the spine of the team gone. Change of keeper makes it 3.

[Casper2]

Ben Mee back in return and 20-30 million. I'm sold.

So Ben Mee would take a massive reduction in salary then .

[Steddyman]

Second bid in for O'Shea according to Graham bailey.
https://www.hitc.com/brentford-make-new ... nce-grows/

Tell them only if they offer Ben Mee in a swap deal.

[Vegas Claret]

haha 7 million for O'Shea, ok then. I'm off to Curry's to offer them 80 quid for a 77inch Oled if that's the world we are living in

[morninbob]

haha 7 million for O'Shea, ok then. I'm off to Curry's to offer them 80 quid for a 77inch Oled if that's the world we are living in

That's not what it says. It says that's what we paid.

[FeedTheArf]

haha 7 million for O'Shea, ok then. I'm off to Curry's to offer them 80 quid for a 77inch Oled if that's the world we are living in

They’re not saying the offer is £7m, they’re saying he’s a £7m ace, referring to the fee we paid for him.

[Elizabeth]

Hi Elizabeth,

Fully agree with you. Huge task on SP's hands. I suspect that some of the reported candidates might well have been put off when they started to study the situation.

The length of negotiations with SP presumably involved thrashing out what could, what should and what might happen. Reading an old article about his departure from Bournemouth, it was essentially a fall-out with the Chairman about the rebuilding of the squad following promotion to the PL.

Here it's different in that we've gone in the opposite direction but I would imagine SP wanted assurances on who he might lose, who he could keep and who might arrive.

I just hope fans give the man time. My gutfeeling is he'll do a good job.

He'll need the backing of the fans.

Hi ecc

I think the fans just want to see a team they recognise and can identify with first and foremost. I think Parker is experienced and good enough to recognise that this will get fans onside from the beginning of the season .
I can't see a Parker side being anything but spirited with the discipline to be difficult to beat in this league.
I'm reading lots of genuine concerns about whether this player will stay or go but ultimately while several will leave over the coming weeks this is less important than the challenge he will have to install what was missing last season ; the ethos of teamwork with all eleven on the field at any one time prepared to give their all for each other in every game

[123EasyasBFC]

Didn’t Bailey say that Burnley were about to appoint Lampard, isn’t he one fk the football insiders guys

[Conroy92]

So Ben Mee would take a massive reduction in salary then .

Well if they sign O'Shea from us coupled with there other defenders I'd say he'd be unlikely to feature and surplus to requirements. Unless he went abroad, I'm not sure what bumper pay deals you think a 34 year old would demand.

[mybloodisclaret]

Well if they sign O'Shea from us coupled with there other defenders I'd say he'd be unlikely to feature and surplus to requirements. Unless he went abroad, I'm not sure what bumper pay deals you think a 34 year old would demand.

He is on 55k a week at Brentford with a year left on his current deal. I guess if he was to sign for us our very best offer would be 10k a week.

I think I know what I would do if I was him.

[Conroy92]

20-30m and Ben Mee can stay where he is, his ship has sailed for me and we don’t need an injury prone veteran.

Personally I think it's an area the side lacks. Experience, leadership, character.

He'd still comfortably be our best defender by a mile. Not for pace, not for passing, not for carrying the ball out from the back. But for defending. A defender that can properly defend. And we've missed that.

[mybloodisclaret]

Personally I think it's an area the side lacks. Experience, leadership, character.

He'd still comfortably be our best defender by a mile. Not for pace, not for passing, not for carrying the ball out from the back. But for defending. A defender that can properly defend. And we've missed that.

If we keep Esteve, I reckon he is better than Mee now.

[Kevwando]

LongsideClaret, have you any updates on Berge & O’Shea?

[Conroy92]

If we keep Esteve, I reckon he is better than Mee now.

I'm not sure. There's something about Esteve that maybe looks a bit more complete. But for out and out defending. Tackling, marking, heading, positioning, blocking.

I still think Mee takes the majority.

[exilecanada]

I think the fans just want to see a team they recognize and can identify with first and foremost. I think Parker is experienced and good enough to recognize that this will get fans onside from the beginning of the season .

Exactly this ^ We need more Bashley's, Tarky's and less of those who don't know or don't care what it means to wear a Burnley shirt. More of those who realize what a Blackburn derby means to the town.

[warksclaret]

Is anyone else getting a tad concerned. Six days to go before we commence our Championship challenge. Over recent days we hear there is interest in Berge and O Shea -incidentally I would seed these two as 1st & 2nd most important players respectively in our team. We hear there is interest in Esteve and Odobert too. In a bulging squad which is desperately short of home grown players, we have managed to sell three goal keepers for a grand total of circa £11m, and no one else. We are no nearer to selling Weghorst, and have struggled to do that for 24 months. We have about 8 surplus players who at best we might find someone to take them on loan, and unlikely to be sold, and we have 7 centre halves of which 5 have poor injury records

My real worry is that several key players could be sold close to the window ending and we have no replacements in place. I am hoping I am just being paranoid but does anyone else share my concern

[TsarBomba]

Is anyone else getting a tad concerned. Six days to go before we commence our Championship challenge. Over recent days we hear there is interest in Berge and O Shea -incidentally I would seed these two as 1st & 2nd most important players respectively in our team. We hear there is interest in Esteve and Odobert too. In a bulging squad which is desperately short of home grown players, we have managed to sell three goal keepers for a grand total of circa £11m, and no one else. We are no nearer to selling Weghorst, and have struggled to do that for 24 months. We have about 8 surplus players who at best we might find someone to take them on loan, and unlikely to be sold, and we have 7 centre halves of which 5 have poor injury records

My real worry is that several key players could be sold close to the window ending and we have no replacements in place. I am hoping I am just being paranoid but does anyone else share my concern

How do you know there are no replacements lined up?

There’s still 3+ weeks of the window to go. It was never going to be the case that all ins/outs would be sorted before the first game. That doesn’t happen for any club.

Clubs get more desperate the closer it gets to deadline day, which plays into our hands re fees. Look at it as a positive- none of our big players have moved on because we’re standing firm on our valuations.

[ecc]

Hi ecc

I think the fans just want to see a team they recognise and can identify with first and foremost. I think Parker is experienced and good enough to recognise that this will get fans onside from the beginning of the season .
I can't see a Parker side being anything but spirited with the discipline to be difficult to beat in this league.
I'm reading lots of genuine concerns about whether this player will stay or go but ultimately while several will leave over the coming weeks this is less important than the challenge he will have to install what was missing last season ; the ethos of teamwork with all eleven on the field at any one time prepared to give their all for each other in every game

Hello again Elizabeth,

Agree with you again.

We never really had a "first-choice 11" and it was all rather disjointed.

I suspect we'll struggle to repeat VK's first season but if SP can get some of the "best of Dyche" where players put their bodies on the line and those with technique build on a platform of graft then he'll win over (most of) the fans.

[claretspice]

If they were to lose O’Shea and Berge it would be far from ideal. 2 important parts of the spine of the team gone. Change of keeper makes it 3.

O'shea would seen to me a particularly big loss. He got steadily better as last season went on and appeared to be a vocal presence in a quiet team that lacked leaders. Perhaps Al Dakhil or Beyer could replace him defensively (leaving aside existing injuries) but both would leave a gap in terms leadership.

[mybloodisclaret]

I'm not sure. There's something about Esteve that maybe looks a bit more complete. But for out and out defending. Tackling, marking, heading, positioning, blocking.

I still think Mee takes the majority.

Mee in his prime yes, I'd, sadly say Mee is in late Autumn now of his career. Fantastic player. Club legend, but I think sentiment alone would say he is better than Esteve now.

[Steve-Harpers-perm]

Really not fussed about O’Shea. Plenty of better centre halves out there.

[colne-claret]

Really not fussed about O’Shea. Plenty of better centre halves out there.

I feel like he could go on and have a great season but I can’t disagree with this. No brainer if we get offered good money to flog him. There’s many other defenders out there as good if not better.

[SirBob]

It’s almost embarrassing how well stocked we are at CB. We can afford to lose 3 of them, from a financial position we probably should.

Esteve, O’Shea, Bayer.. at championship level this is pretty much as good as is gets. Ideally keep all 3. Lose more than one of these players and I’d be upset, Esteve is key for me.

Al Dakhil, Delcroix, Ekdal, McNally and Egan Riley would walk into most championship sides. Sell whoever of these as we can for the most profit and but keep two as back up. Al-Dakhil and Delcroix would be my preferred backups.

[Enola Gay]

If they were to lose O’Shea and Berge it would be far from ideal. 2 important parts of the spine of the team gone. Change of keeper makes it 3.

I take the point about the turnover but as a counterpoint it wasn't just the individual players who were spineless last season; far too often the team as a whole was as well and it's crying out for an upgrade. The only real issue I'd have with selling O'Shea and Trafford is that we've not got a lot of time to get replacements in and they'd have to hit the ground running. Berge for me would be a bigger miss than either.

[IanMcL]

Berge. On the one hand you can read of MU interest after failing on £50m player. Burnley looking at £30m. Anmbout right for an impressive midfielder.

On the other hand Fenerbahce want him and you can read that Burnley won't let go for less than €21m .

Not sure we are judging players price properly. We got him for a cheap fee as last legs of contract. We have him on contract for another 3 years!

[jojomk1]

I think the fans just want to see a team they recognise and can identify with first and foremost. I think Parker is experienced and good enough to recognise that this will get fans onside from the beginning of the season .

Sorry, but if we see the likes of Jay and JBG starting then we are in for a long hard season

[Woodleyclaret]

The debate about us giving our stars away previously has been done to death and I won't delve into that again.However O'Shea developed into a top defender and we have to be looking at £20m.Talk of £7m is nonsense.Traff is £20+ especially to moneybags Newcastle. Sander again well North of £20m. Whittaker at Plymouth would be a good Berge replacement at £10m.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The debate about us giving our stars away previously has been done to death and I won't delve into that again.However O'Shea developed into a top defender and we have to be looking at £20m.Talk of £7m is nonsense.Traff is £20+ especially to moneybags Newcastle. Sander again well North of £20m. Whittaker at Plymouth would be a good Berge replacement at £10m.

Whittaker (a striker/number 10) to replace Berge (a cm).

Why?

[Elizabeth]

Sorry, but if we see the likes of Jay and JBG starting then we are in for a long hard season

I can see how you feel like that but in the circumstances I think we will need their influence in what I believe is a transition period.

[jlup1980]

O'Shea would be a big loss. Beyer hasn't been fully fit for around 12 months now and it's becoming more and more of a worry. Ekdal looks great but I've not heard much about him this summer - have we got fitness concerns over him as well? AAD faded badly last season. O'Shea and Esteve are our number one pairing, no doubting that. I wouldn't be letting Dara leave unless we receive a silly offer, certainly North of £20m.

[Quicknick]

O'Shea and Esteve in central defence; Berge in midfield: if we manage to keep them, we will win the division.

[123EasyasBFC]

The debate about us giving our stars away previously has been done to death and I won't delve into that again.However O'Shea developed into a top defender and we have to be looking at £20m.Talk of £7m is nonsense.Traff is £20+ especially to moneybags Newcastle. Sander again well North of £20m. Whittaker at Plymouth would be a good Berge replacement at £10m.

The ideal Berge replacement would be sheaf at Coventry not a winger/striker from Plymouth

[beddie]

Not us but I noticed City have agreed a deal to sell Alvarez for £81.5m to Atletico, Atletico also poised to sign Connor Gallagher.

[taio]

Sorry, but if we see the likes of Jay and JBG starting then we are in for a long hard season

Gudmundsson still has lots to offer and I hope he gets plenty of game time including starts. Why do you think otherwise about him? Jay will be a very useful option from the bench.

[Newcastleclaret93]

The ideal Berge replacement would be sheaf at Coventry not a winger/striker from Plymouth

If I was throwing a wild card out there (home grown talent, was actually part of Burnley’s youth team I believe).

Luke Cundle really impressed me last season (especially when he was at Stoke). Saw him play 3 or 4 times and technically he is very very good.

Think he would be a great replacement, looks destined for premier league football in a season or two (if not this season).

[Sapperclaret73]

Whoever we bring in needs to be homegrown as this could be a real problem this season.

[Jakubclaret]

The debate about us giving our stars away previously has been done to death and I won't delve into that again.However O'Shea developed into a top defender and we have to be looking at £20m.Talk of £7m is nonsense.Traff is £20+ especially to moneybags Newcastle. Sander again well North of £20m. Whittaker at Plymouth would be a good Berge replacement at £10m.

I can't see newcastle spending much more after parting with £60+ for guehi not this season anyhow. I'd be very surprised if anybody is willing to take trafford for that amount. I think perhaps some people clearly value our players more than they are actually worth. Nobody's really done anything noteworthy (yet) to command such high valuations, berges pick of the bunch he's actually got something about him a safer gamble than the others.

[bumba]

I think we'll have to shift two midfielders before we bring one in, if we sell Berge I think we need to sell Bastien too before we bring another in. Squad needs trimming not replacing like for like.

[RVclaret]

Sheaf would cost 15m and then it’s whether he’d join. Coventry are really well positioned for a push at autos this year in my view.

Cundle is a decent shout from NC93, he’s back at Wolves I think after a loan or two and could be available for a low ish fee.

Also surprised at some thinking JBG & Jay Rod don’t need to be seen much this year. I think they’ve got an important part to play and JBG should be pushing for a start.

[Hipper]

Same argument in defence - I like O’Shea a lot, but again if we have an offer around the £20m mark (not unrealistic given age, height, speed etc) then we have more than adequate replacements - Beyer, Ekdal or Al Dakhil.

Where are Beyer, Ekdal and Al Dakhil? In the treatment room I think? I don't consider them adequate replacements for O'Shea. Apart from ability, O'Shea has leadership qualities, something we are lacking.

I do accept though that we can't stand in his way if a good offer comes in, both for the club's finances and O'Shea's career.

[BigGaz]

Posted this in the wrong thread, clearly haven't woken up yet:

News coming out of Utd this morning that they're back around the table for Ugarte and PSG look willing to negotiate down from the money they wanted for him, having bought him for about 50m

I believe they've been quite cunning here, by intimating that theyre ready to walk away and look at other targets, IE Berge.

I still find it unlikely he'll go there as their first choice option so fingers crossed.

[jrgbfc]

Not us but I noticed City have agreed a deal to sell Alvarez for £81.5m to Atletico, Atletico also poised to sign Connor Gallagher.

Surprised City are letting Alvarez go. Putting an awful lot of pressure on Haaland to stay fit.

[Since62]

Clearly I would prefer not to lose the better players but I feel it is also essential to move on those who have no part to play, not just for financial reasons but to bring the squad together as a team. I would hope that those who realise or have been told that they will not be involved will be keen to go for the benefit of their own careers. I am fully behind SP and am looking forward to seeing his first choice XI in so far as that is possible.

[BigGaz]

There's still 3 and a half weeks almost till the deadline. Clubs know they don't have to drop their pants/have time to capture their first choices etc and players know they still have options.

Stuff will begin moving towards the back end of the window.

As others have said I think Berge is they keystone. We're spoilt for Center Backs and Wingers without a hugely noticeable drop off in quality for their replacements so if it takes us flogging both WO and Do'S to keep him I'd take that all day long.

[jedi_master]

O’Shea got better as last season went on and would be in my starting lineup this season. Reality though is that if you needed to find a ‘sacrifice’ out of our starting lineup, I’d sell him instead of Berge every single time if the fee is in the £20m range. We are very well stocked at centre back, if a little lacking in leadership. Al-Dakhil, Ekdal and Beyer are excellent at this level - we’d need a view of their fitness, but if they’re not far away then it’s hard to dispute that we could probably afford to lose O’Shea without seeing a material difference in quality.

I’d definitely like O’Shea playing on Monday against Luton before any sale though. We’ll need him for that game.

[123EasyasBFC]

If I was throwing a wild card out there (home grown talent, was actually part of Burnley’s youth team I believe).

Luke Cundle really impressed me last season (especially when he was at Stoke). Saw him play 3 or 4 times and technically he is very very good.

Think he would be a great replacement, looks destined for premier league football in a season or two (if not this season).

I remember him having a spell at Swansea but can’t say I knew anything about him but a quick search, he was at Burnley