Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[ClaretTony]

You are probably right CT. I just hope he has a couple more seasons, probably in the Championship with a club can unearth some of his defensive skills and experience . I suspect SD coming in to manage Everton gave him some hope he could break back into the Everton team, though once Braithwaite came back from loan , that was going to be impossible, bar injuries

I’d have Keane back tomorrow if I thought he could be anything like as good as he was the first time round.

[KRBFC]

You are probably right CT. I just hope he has a couple more seasons, probably in the Championship with a club can unearth some of his defensive skills and experience . I suspect SD coming in to manage Everton gave him some hope he could break back into the Everton team, though once Braithwaite came back from loan , that was going to be impossible, bar injuries

Michael Keane defensive skills

Brilliant, talk about living in the past, still hung up on Dyche we’re pretending players are still the same level from 6 years ago, bring back Dean Marney and Boyd too, we need the legs.

[roperclaret]

Michael Keane defensive skills

Brilliant, talk about living in the past, still hung up on Dyche we’re pretending players are still the same level from 6 years ago, bring back Dean Marney and Boyd too, we need the legs.

What an inane post. Michael Keane is 10 years younger than the other 2 and still very much an premier league footballer

[Woodleyclaret]

Berge and O'SHEA may go but any attempt to sell Wilson Odebert to anyone must be resisted.

[Conroy92]

Michael Keane defensive skills

Brilliant, talk about living in the past, still hung up on Dyche we’re pretending players are still the same level from 6 years ago, bring back Dean Marney and Boyd too, we need the legs.

To sign a 31 years old defender who has spent the bulk of his career at prem level, is not living in the past.

Comfortably better than anyone we have.

[RVclaret]

Sheff Utd now signing highly rated winger Rak-Sakyi on loan from Palace. Another impressive deal.

[ClaretAL]

I'm really sorry to have to tell you this but Vincent Kompany is no longer at Burnley so there is really no need to defend him with your constant nonsense and no need to keep accusing people of trying to use a stick to beat him with.

I'm aware that Mike Trésor has two caps for Belgium and I believe he got a lot of assists and goals in their league in 2022/23 season, but from what I saw of him last season I wouldn't give him a game in the reserves (if we had a reserves).

Best post I have seen in weeks take a bow that man

[Conroy92]

Sheff united doing what we did. Bulking on loans from above and some ones that look good. If a couple of those turn out to be Maatsens and Tellas they will nail it.

Screwed ourselves a bit by having such a massive squad. Means any loan would be doubtful of playing time right now and we are stocked at most positions.

I am getting more and more nervous. The side looks worse to me than last time. But with no surprises to come. There will be no talented loanees. We know what we have.

Do we think players like Cullens, Brownhills and Benson's ect will hit the same vein of form we had last time? It's asking a lot in reality isn't it.

That's my worry. This window feels very much feels like we're standing still and in football, if you stand still, you go backwards.

[KRBFC]

To sign a 31 years old defender who has spent the bulk of his career at prem level, is not living in the past.

Comfortably better than anyone we have.

He’s absolutely dreadful and has been for years, complete calamity of a footballer since he left us, he thought the grass was greener.

[GetIntoEm]

He’s absolutely dreadful and has been for years, complete calamity of a footballer since he left us, he thought the grass was greener.

Can't tell whether you're serious or drunk.

[KRBFC]

Can't tell whether you're serious or drunk.

Have you not seen him play for Everton? Well you probably haven’t done for a while because even Dyche has realised he’s a donkey.

Go ask the Everton fans they will inform you

Like I said, he thought Burnley was beneath him and jumped at the first chance to leave, how did that work out for his football career?

[GetIntoEm]

Considering he's played nearly 200 games for Everton, it's not worked out too bad.

[warksclaret]

Having screened the Cadiz game and followed our friendlies (albeit little coverage on them) my fear is we wont score anything like the volume of goals of two seasons ago. Its absolutely imperative therefore we can keep clean sheets or concede the minimum of goals, so we must keep O Shea and Esteve, particularly as four of the other centre halves have either gone missing or seem permanently injured. Loads on here saying its not the end of the world if O shea goes, but I am not certain we can get anyone to replace him thats a better defender . O Shea last year was our only vocal player, brave and quick, and a handful in the opposing box. There is also some synergy with Esteve who were the pairing second half of last season, and who have played together in pre season. Unless someone offers us around or in in excess of £20m I would keep O Shea and make him captain

[Big Vinny K]

Have you not seen him play for Everton? Well you probably haven’t done for a while because even Dyche has realised he’s a donkey.

Go ask the Everton fans they will inform you

Like I said, he thought Burnley was beneath him and jumped at the first chance to leave, how did that work out for his football career?

Can’t believe how much rubbish you talk some time.
Everton paid £30m for him - you really think he had a choice to stay ?

You say that you only ever criticised Dyche towards the end of his tenure (in itself rubbish) yet you cannot wait to tear into anything to do with him or his team.
I don’t know one single Burnley fan who has a bad word to say about Keane and his time at Burnley. And on top of that we made more profit from him than any other player in the history of the club.

And all you want to do is tear into him and defend that sh-it show of a season last year under VK.

Weird does not begin to describe it.

[exilecanada]

Considering he's played nearly 200 games for Everton, it's not worked out too bad.

Agreed. When Keane retires it's safe to say he had quite a successful career. Played at the top level of English football for a good number of years, represented England 12 times and if he took care of his money will retire quite wealthy.

I'd say that's a successful career

[Guller Bull]

Ipswich targeting winger in £12 million pound move

https://eplindex.com/117213/report-ipsw ... -move.html


aye right gtf!

[ISpeds00]

Sheff united doing what we did. Bulking on loans from above and some ones that look good. If a couple of those turn out to be Maatsens and Tellas they will nail it.

Screwed ourselves a bit by having such a massive squad. Means any loan would be doubtful of playing time right now and we are stocked at most positions.

I am getting more and more nervous. The side looks worse to me than last time. But with no surprises to come. There will be no talented loanees. We know what we have.

Do we think players like Cullens, Brownhills and Benson's ect will hit the same vein of form we had last time? It's asking a lot in reality isn't it.

That's my worry. This window feels very much feels like we're standing still and in football, if you stand still, you go backwards.

Disagree. We know what we have, and have had over a season together with most
Few new additions

I'd rather have that, than a bunch of new signings again (full team of signings) that will take 10-15 games to gel
We could be well clear of most by 15 games in

Keep who we have now and we will run riot in this league

[fatboy47]

Ipswich targeting winger in £12 million pound move

https://eplindex.com/117213/report-ipsw ... -move.html


aye right gtf!

""Ipswich.....and other big clubs""

Okay.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Disagree. We know what we have, and have had over a season together with most
Few new additions

I'd rather have that, than a bunch of new signings again (full team of signings) that will take 10-15 games to gel
We could be well clear of most by 15 games in

Keep who we have now and we will run riot in this league

The one thing I’m conscious of this time, is the fact we are going to have very few experienced premier league players in the starting eleven.

Last time we had Brownhill, Cork and Barnes featuring nearly every game. With contributions from JBG, Taylor and Jay. That side of our squad last time can’t be underestimated. I think Barnes and Cork in particular will be massive misses. They kept things simple that allowed the flair players to shine.

I would love it if we signed someone like a Jonjo Shelvey, Tom Cairney, Will Hughes type of player. I think that type of player would be absolutely critical to our success this season.

[boyyanno]

Disagree. We know what we have, and have had over a season together with most
Few new additions

I'd rather have that, than a bunch of new signings again (full team of signings) that will take 10-15 games to gel
We could be well clear of most by 15 games in

Keep who we have now and we will run riot in this league

I think people need to try to bare in mind that different is not necessarily better.

Our last back 5 at this level had 4 current PL players in it and Roberts- they've moved on for 70m+ between them. Maatsen, THB, Muric and Taylor. The other one is still with us.

I like O'Shea and Esteve but nothing suggests the current back 5 is or will fare any better.

Midfield we are stronger whilst we have Berge. Players like Odobert and Koleosho out wide have big futures ahead of them but they'll have to do a lot to match what Benson and Tella did.

I'm not convinced this team is that much better than before to be completely honest and they say the quality moves forward every year.

I still think we need to offload a shed load and bring in another couple of quality additions.

No one wants a re-build job but quality over quantity should really be the task this window imo.

[Silkyskills1]

Disagree. We know what we have, and have had over a season together with most
Few new additions

I'd rather have that, than a bunch of new signings again (full team of signings) that will take 10-15 games to gel
We could be well clear of most by 15 games in

Keep who we have now and we will run riot in this league

You may be right and only time will tell. However, as the new season approaches and there appears to be more and more 'chat' about some of our players my main concern currently is with team morale. As last season progressed it seemingly deteriorated alarmingly. From what we have been able to gather from pre-season things have improved.
We saw two years ago just how important togetherness and unity is in a football club but I am far from convinced that the current mood within the club is anything more than tenuous at best. Hope I'm way off the mark.

[Bordeauxclaret]

I’d forgotten about the weird hatred for Keane.

[KRBFC]

Can’t believe how much rubbish you talk some time.
Everton paid £30m for him - you really think he had a choice to stay ?

You say that you only ever criticised Dyche towards the end of his tenure (in itself rubbish) yet you cannot wait to tear into anything to do with him or his team.
I don’t know one single Burnley fan who has a bad word to say about Keane and his time at Burnley. And on top of that we made more profit from him than any other player in the history of the club.

And all you want to do is tear into him and defend that sh-it show of a season last year under VK.

Weird does not begin to describe it.

Full of fake news I don’t even know where to begin

I said Keane was good for us

I criticised Dyche only towards the end? Thats not true I criticised him throughout his time here, we all know that

I did not defend that shite last season at all, I stuck to my guns and felt VK deserved the chance to put it right, like SD deserved too.

You’re replying to a post about Keane, nothing to do with a Dyche slanging match

[KRBFC]

I’d forgotten about the weird hatred for Keane.

Stop lying, you haven’t forgotten anything I have ever said on here. You probably have sticky notes all around your house of my posts.

[KRBFC]

Our last back 5 at this level had 4 current PL players in it and Roberts- they've moved on for 70m+ between them. Maatsen, THB, Muric and Taylor. The other one is still with us.

More Fake news

Muric
Roberts Beyer THB Maatsen

Muric
Roberts Ekdal Beyer Maatsen

Those were our first choice back fives.

Maatsen + Muric + THB = 3 not the 4 you claim

[Bordeauxclaret]

Stop lying, you haven’t forgotten anything I have ever said on here. You probably have sticky notes all around your house of my posts.

I certainly remember your racist and homophobic ones.

[boyyanno]

More Fake news

Muric
Roberts Beyer THB Maatsen

Muric
Roberts Ekdal Beyer Maatsen

Those were our first choice back fives.

Maatsen + Muric + THB = 3 not the 4 you claim

Can you name me the back 5 that started the season in the Championship?

Oh- doesn't look like fake news at all own goal number 7004 from KRBFC

[Rick_Muller]

Ipswich targeting winger in £12 million pound move

https://eplindex.com/117213/report-ipsw ... -move.html


aye right gtf!

Oh… look… a transfer rumour amongst the petty arguing over times gone by…

How very dare you post a transfer rumour on the thread for bickering and pettiness…

[BigGaz]

Keane was an exceptional player for us. I am not sure who said he had his fair share of mistakes for us but I think that must be a misplaced memory rather than malice towards him because he was absolutely faultless for us but didn't look anywhere near as comfortable at Everton.

I think the reason for that personally is that he along with a number of players at Burnley in the Dyche era benefited from his meticulous organisation and 'shape' first approach.

The amount of players that we had under him that had unremarkable careers before and after being here, or who he elevated to England caps or big moves and then dropped off we could sit here and talk about all night.

In short, Dyche made many players look an awful lot better than what they were with his managerial approach and tactical systems in my opinion, and Keano was probably the best example of that.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

Ipswich targeting winger in £12 million pound move

https://eplindex.com/117213/report-ipsw ... -move.html


aye right gtf!

£12m

If that sale happened (or any figure close to it) then the ALK 'model' has completely failed

[FeedTheArf]

£12m

If that sale happened (or any figure close to it) then the ALK 'model' has completely failed

I wish people would stop getting hung up on the valuation in an article. More often than not they just take the valuation off of transfermarkt which are never accurate. We had the same thing with O’Shea yesterday. The ‘valuation’ is no indication of what Ipswich have bid, if indeed they’ve nodded at all.

[BigGaz]

£12m

If that sale happened (or any figure close to it) then the ALK 'model' has completely failed

They also have an Article reckoning Brentford are 'ready to pay' 7m for Dara O'Shea.

Which by my reckoning puts us at around .5 million loss for the pair of them if both sold at these reported prices when between them they have 7 years left on contract.

That site is literally just out there saying things.

[TsarBomba]

Sacha- Ipswich working on O’Shea deal.

[fatboy47]

Sacha- Ipswich working on O’Shea deal.

Baron Cohen?

[123EasyasBFC]

Thought we Sacha fraudlieri would have stopped talking about us after kompany left. He’s literally looked at the football insiders article and run with it, there’s no way he has any contacts on a potential O’Shea move to Ipswich

[bfcjg]

Looking at the figures we are being offered for some of Kompany's signings and the losses we will make, could legal action be taken against MUD analytical for compensation for misrepresentation or potential fraudulent activities because I've never witnessed such a financially disastrous transfer activity in my lifetime watching Burnley.

[Boss Hogg]

The only benefit of sticking with VK last season was so he’d pay back the loyalty and get us back up and that his many signings would massively increase in value. He didn’t stick around and some of the signings look like they are worth peanuts or we can’t sell them.

[Cooclaret]

I'm really sorry to have to tell you this but Vincent Kompany is no longer at Burnley so there is really no need to defend him with your constant nonsense and no need to keep accusing people of trying to use a stick to beat him with.

I'm aware that Mike Trésor has two caps for Belgium and I believe he got a lot of assists and goals in their league in 2022/23 season, but from what I saw of him last season I wouldn't give him a game in the reserves (if we had a reserves).

What about all those who were calling for the club to get rid of Kompany in Oct/Nov and took pelters from some big player protagonists on this board?

It seems popular to stick the knife into Kompany nowadays but it seems some were later to the party than others!

[Hedontplayforyou]

The problem with the signings is that there is so many signings. You can’t play them all, and for a players value to go up they need to play regularly, gain experience and generally play relatively well showing potential. Even if we did rotate heavily to give them all game time it wouldn’t be enough minutes on the pitch to really show what they can do.

Unfortunately the window was pretty wild and VK threw some of his promotion heroes to the dogs, giving them no opportunity in the prem.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

I wish people would stop getting hung up on the valuation in an article. More often than not they just take the valuation off of transfermarkt which are never accurate. We had the same thing with O’Shea yesterday. The ‘valuation’ is no indication of what Ipswich have bid, if indeed they’ve nodded at all.

Then your wish is granted, as I am in no way hung up on the quoted figure, hence the laughing face just further pointing out how ridiculous the figure is, as it goes against both what WO should really be worth and the way Pace is trying to do business. Lazy journalism.

Anyhow, hopefully WO stays

[KRBFC]

Can you name me the back 5 that started the season in the Championship?

Oh- doesn't look like fake news at all own goal number 7004 from KRBFC

You said “our last back five at Championship level” so surely that should be the final one?

Anyway it’s common knowledge that our main back five was Muric, Roberts, THB, Beyer and Maatsen.

[KRBFC]

I certainly remember your racist and homophobic ones.

Can’t believe you’re still so obsessed, it’s been 10 years

[123EasyasBFC]

Looking at the figures we are being offered for some of Kompany's signings and the losses we will make, could legal action be taken against MUD analytical for compensation for misrepresentation or potential fraudulent activities because I've never witnessed such a financially disastrous transfer activity in my lifetime watching Burnley.

Every club makes losses on signings, sometimes signings don’t work. The only kompany signing that we have sold so far we have actually made a profit on and that’s muric. What figures are being offered to? There aren’t any figures out. Football insiders putting ‘Burnley’s 7m rated defender’ referring to O’Shea isn’t the bid that’s put it, that’s what we paid for him or what a website has him valued at

[burnley007]

This thread has collapsed again
Usual suspects

Hmmm

[bfcjg]

Every club makes losses on signings, sometimes signings don’t work. The only kompany signing that we have sold so far we have actually made a profit on and that’s muric. What figures are being offered to? There aren’t any figures out. Football insiders putting ‘Burnley’s 7m rated defender’ referring to O’Shea isn’t the bid that’s put it, that’s what we paid for him or what a website has him valued at

Didn't ours though have to come through a company that recommended them to fit in with our business model of buy andcsell for a profit later, it just hasn't worked.

[NewClaret]

Looking at the figures we are being offered for some of Kompany's signings and the losses we will make, could legal action be taken against MUD analytical for compensation for misrepresentation or potential fraudulent activities because I've never witnessed such a financially disastrous transfer activity in my lifetime watching Burnley.

[Targetman]

Have you not seen him play for Everton? Well you probably haven’t done for a while because even Dyche has realised he’s a donkey.

Go ask the Everton fans they will inform you

Like I said, he thought Burnley was beneath him and jumped at the first chance to leave, how did that work out for his football career?

...."he thought Burnley was beneath him".......

Just before Michael Keane left us I had a conversation with one of his very close relatives. He told me that Keane had loved his time at Burnley and had never pushed for a move but that the club were eager to cash in on him.

Which we duly did!

Makes your statement seem a little ill thought out really.

[BigGaz]

I mean we are all on a spectrum but sorry to say that is at the 'unhinged' or more likely 'wind up' end of the wedge

[NewClaret]

I don't think they are Parker's and I didn't think they were Dyche's during the time he worked for these owners, but I believe Kompany virtually had Pace wrapped round his little finger and was making those decisions.

Well that wouldn’t tie in with Williams’ comments that he had to say no to Kompany on occasions last year.

Or Kompany’s comments that the transfer strategy was set by the club, not him.

I’m not saying you’re wrong, just that it conflicts with what they have said. To be honest I’m not sure what I’d prefer anyway. I find it a bit weird that these signings are happening and we’re not seeing pictures with Parker or his thoughts on the signings.

The situation with Dyche didn’t end up going well when he didn’t have control of signings and there’s a fear it might not with Parker either.

[NewClaret]

I mean we are all on a spectrum but sorry to say that is at the 'unhinged' or more likely 'wind up' end of the wedge

Yep.