Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Boss Hogg]

We can’t afford to lose( on the pitch) both Brownhill and Berge.
Trabsonspor need to focus on Wout.

[Commy]

Have you seen Conway play? Is he good?

Conway is a good young player who will only improve. He is refusing to sign a new contract at the minute, and only a year left, so is a decent price. The problem is where to fit him in with all the strikers we already have.

[Commy]

What is it with these Turkish teams and our players. Do they, for some reason, think we are going to sell to them at bargain basement prices. If rumours are to be believed, they put a bid in, find out the actual asking price and then go elsewhere. They should have learnt by now.

[dermotdermot]

We can’t afford to lose( on the pitch) both Brownhill and Berge.
Trabsonspor need to focus on Wout.

Hasn’t he gone yet?

[Steddyman]

Hasn’t he gone yet?

He was in Gawthorpe this week. If he hasn't gone by Monday, we should play him. He would be top at this level, the new Ashley.

[jrgbfc]

25m for Berge
20m for O’Shea
20m for Trafford
5m for weghorst
4m for twine
1m for mcnally
500k for Delcroix
1m for obafemi

That should help finances and be able to invest in another keeper and centre midfielder whilst bringing an Egan type in

I think some of your valuations are a tad optimistic. Particularly O Shea and Obafemi, not a chance.

[123EasyasBFC]

I think some of your valuations are a tad optimistic. Particularly O Shea and Obafemi, not a chance.

We signed O’Shea for 7m so I don’t see us selling for anything less than 15m. Collins cost wolves 22m and O’Shea is a better player than Collins

[JimmyRobbo]

The CB cover are all injured / injury prone / not good enough.

Currently injured, I'll grant you.

I think Beyer, Ekdal and Al Dak are all good enough. I'd wager the big lad from Oxford would be good enough, too, but needs a leader near him.

[JimmyRobbo]

I think some of your valuations are a tad optimistic. Particularly O Shea and Obafemi, not a chance.

Obafemi? We were quoted sonething silly like 13m when we chased him 2 years ago. He's a current international. You seriously think we wouldn't have a chance of £1m for him?

Fwiw, I think his estimated values were all reasonable.

[jrgbfc]

Obafemi? We were quoted sonething silly like 13m when we chased him 2 years ago. He's a current international. You seriously think we wouldn't have a chance of £1m for him?

Fwiw, I think his estimated values were all reasonable.

Nobody in the Championship has any money. Throw in question marks over his attitude at Swansea and Millwall and i'd be very surprised if we got a million for him.

[Juan Tanamera]

Was he reluctant to come? I personally have seen nothing to support that theory other than how long the transfer took maybe I missed that not sure. Look things didn’t go well for him last season that is clear, I think there are a number of factors for that some of which we are not aware of and all built up in him which affected his football. also I agree defensively he is not good and needs to improve hugely there. I have no issue with you disagreeing with me about him football is a game of opinions and we all have 1, but I saw glimpses of what could be a fantastic footballer in this division and in the prem in the future if he is used correctly.

I think reading between the lines of what Parker had to say about him yesterday it strikes me as another MH issue and he will be missing for a while anyway.

An excellent post JarrowClaret.
A refreshing view as opposed to some of nonsense posted on here by some who know nothing of Tresor's personal situation.

[Holtyclaret]

If both Berge and Brownhill go without experienced/quality replacements, then it's a gamechanger for me, as it could well indicate how much we have a financial problem (caused by the likely ridiculous overspending last year).

We’ve a £50m hole in our income following relegation.

Fag packet maths but Muric and vk have reduced this to under £30m. If more than £30m is raised from sales they’ll be plenty for replacements etc…

We’re financially ok I believe as long as we’re back up within a couple of seasons.

[jedi_master]

We’re financially ok I believe as long as we’re back up within a couple of seasons.

One day we won’t go back up with two seasons (and this could well be that day, if we sell Berge, O’Shea, Brownhill etc). There is seemingly no plan for that day. I’d genuinely be very happy to get promoted and spend everything we make paying ALK’s myriad loans off. Feels like there’s no long term plan for that inevitability.

[mybloodisclaret]

What is it with these Turkish teams and our players. Do they, for some reason, think we are going to sell to them at bargain basement prices. If rumours are to be believed, they put a bid in, find out the actual asking price and then go elsewhere. They should have learnt by now.

100% with you on this. It seems they think we are the only team in England?!?!

[Woodleyclaret]

We've a £100m parachute payment that should help.

[Holtyclaret]

One day we won’t go back up with two seasons (and this could well be that day, if we sell Berge, O’Shea, Brownhill etc). There is seemingly no plan for that day. I’d genuinely be very happy to get promoted and spend everything we make paying ALK’s myriad loans off. Feels like there’s no long term plan for that inevitability.

There will be plans for every eventuality.

We need to trim the squad but I’ve no doubt that bigger name departures will be replaced. Naturally allows sp to mould the team to his tactics and bring in a few of his players.

Brownhill leaves for nothing next summer so you’d imagine he’ll be high up the list to be sold.

Our championship record in the last 20 years is pretty impressive (best ever in champ history?) chances we won’t go up this year or next are very slim.

Wouldn’t unduly worry for foreseeable personally.

[jedi_master]

Our championship record in the last 20 years is pretty impressive (best ever in champ history?) chances we won’t go up this year or next are very slim.

Wouldn’t unduly worry for foreseeable personally.

To be clear, I reckon we go up this season (barring really bad departures) but I just think one day we will get an appointment wrong etc. I just hope we see getting back to being debt free as a priority rather than something we intend to live with indefinitely.

[Burnley1989]

To be clear, I reckon we go up this season (barring really bad departures) but I just think one day we will get an appointment wrong etc. I just hope we see getting back to being debt free as a priority rather than something we intend to live with indefinitely.

So do I, but I'm not sure a club like ours can run debt free at the top table for very long without someone spunking money away from their own pocket.
I know we did it previously whilst the owners saved up enough money to plunge us into debt but the cracks were starting to show towards the end despite Dyches miracles.

[Holtyclaret]

To be clear, I reckon we go up this season (barring really bad departures) but I just think one day we will get an appointment wrong etc. I just hope we see getting back to being debt free as a priority rather than something we intend to live with indefinitely.

Under the current ownership we’ll literally never be debt free as under previous regimes.

We’re set up, run and financially managed in a completely different way these days. Not saying it’s good or bad, just different .

I wouldn’t worry too much about future head coaches after sp. All goes well sp will be head coach for years.

I think we’ll be up this year too, should be fun

[randomclaret2]

We've a £100m parachute payment that should help.

£100 million ?

[Robbie_painter]

We signed O’Shea for 7m so I don’t see us selling for anything less than 15m. Collins cost wolves 22m and O’Shea is a better player than Collins

As much as I like O’Shea he definitely isn’t better than Collins

[123EasyasBFC]

As much as I like O’Shea he definitely isn’t better than Collins

All about opinion, I think he’s clear of Collins

[123EasyasBFC]

Brannagan at Oxford is a great player, I would look at him as a serious option

[Holtyclaret]

We've a £100m parachute payment that should help.

£50m hole in our income factors parachute payment in.

Parachute 1 isn’t £100m either.

[warksclaret]

Brannagan at Oxford is a great player, I would look at him as a serious option

Believe he had some dialogue with us about 3-4 years ago, but decided to stay at Oxford

[TsarBomba]

Brannagan at Oxford is a great player, I would look at him as a serious option

If memory serves, I think he signed a new contract this summer.

[jrgbfc]

Wasn't Brannagan with us as a youngster, went to Oldham?

[Murger]

Wasn't Brannagan with us as a youngster, went to Oldham?

Wasn’t that Dummigan?

[Chester Perry]

We've a £100m parachute payment that should help.

We actually have the prospect of cumulative parachute payments that add up to around £80m over two seasons and nothing after (a little over £45m this season) - and we do not get the second one if we are promoted at the end of this season. Under current practice, that, would be evenly distributed across the 20 members of the Premier League in the 2025/26 season - meaning about £1.7m for each team.

[jedi_master]

Brannagan at Oxford is a great player, I would look at him as a serious option

Very Cullen-esque but perhaps more forward thinking. I liked what I saw and he seems to have been doing it week in, week out in League One with a really decent goal return too.

I’d take him as a rotation option/backup for Cullen and Brownhill. I say that though not really knowing how good Massengo is or isn’t. If Berge was to be sold I’d prefer a ‘bigger’ profile in there, and I mean that in height/size. Ben Sheaf is an obvious target but unsure if Coventry would sell.

[jrgbfc]

Wasn’t that Dummigan?

Lol yeah you're right, just googled him. Brannagan is a Manchester lad but started at Liverpool.

[ecc]

As much as I like O’Shea he definitely isn’t better than Collins

Collins looked in the PL when he was with us. I don't know what he was like at Brentford. Plus he's younger than Dara.

[Vegas Claret]

El dakhil - full Belgium international. Get him back playing. Rapid just needs to fill out a bit

if you look at the videos of him in pre-season he has spent a lot of time doing exactly that

[claretskeith]

if you look at the videos of him in pre-season he has spent a lot of time doing exactly that

Playing or filling out?

[NewClaret]

Collins looked in the PL when he was with us. I don't know what he was like at Brentford. Plus he's younger than Dara.

I’d disagree. He was quite calamitous for us (handball!). We’d have stayed up that season had Mee not been injured (and we played Cork a bit more).

He was definitely the same for Wolves and Brentford in his early time there. Pulled it around second half of the season for the Bees. I honestly doubt he’d have been any better in Kompany’s high line and probably a lot worse.

I agree about his age, which will limit Dara’s price a bit, although he’s coming in to his peak and as we’ve seen with Solanke today, 25/26 year olds go for big fees.

[bobinho]

What is it with these Turkish teams and our players. Do they, for some reason, think we are going to sell to them at bargain basement prices. If rumours are to be believed, they put a bid in, find out the actual asking price and then go elsewhere. They should have learnt by now.

Be like trying to buy the wife a handbag in Marmaris…

[ecc]

I’d disagree. He was quite calamitous for us (handball!). We’d have stayed up that season had Mee not been injured (and we played Cork a bit more).

He was definitely the same for Wolves and Brentford in his early time there. Pulled it around second half of the season for the Bees. I honestly doubt he’d have been any better in Kompany’s high line and probably a lot worse.

I agree about his age, which will limit Dara’s price a bit, although he’s coming in to his peak and as we’ve seen with Solanke today, 25/26 year olds go for big fees.

Fair enough.

[jojomk1]

If any offer comes in for Brownhill it would have to be seriously considered if we need the finances
Out of contract at the end of this season
As with a lot of players now Brownhill may be happy to see out this last year as he can possibly make some good money for himself as a free agent next summer

Interesting aspect to the Ivan Toney situation in that if he also decides to see out his contract at Brentford
Peterborough will lose a potential windfall from a sell on agreement they hold if no transfer fee generated

[jrgbfc]

if you look at the videos of him in pre-season he has spent a lot of time doing exactly that

Club have posted some pics of him in training today. Can't be far away from being fully fit.

[Murger]

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[distortiondave]

Basher Humphries sounds like a Beano character.

[Hapag Lloyd]

As much as I like O’Shea he definitely isn’t better than Collins

^^^^^^^
This

[gawthorpe_view]

Basher Humphries sounds like a Beano character.

Replacement for Bashley Barnes, eventually.

[jedi_master]

I had never heard of Bashir Humphrey's, but initial checks said he was a centre back who was on loan at Swansea last year. I had assumed he was possibly an O'Shea replacement, but after watching the video I linked below, it seems he is just as capable of playing at left back. If so, perhaps we are after him as Parker wants true competition there with just Pires a dedicated left back as it stands:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoXiid1q6LE

[Jakubs Tash]

He was married last week in Sri Lanka.

He’s had ample time over the summer to get married! I find it strange that this has happened during a time when he should be working. Are we going to give him some extra time off to honeymoon too?

[Silkyskills1]

If we brought in a Riley as well as Egan do you think we could con the ref into playing twelve players by putting Egan-Riley on the team sheet?

An Egan would be quite sufficient. Just take my word for it.

[warksclaret]

He’s had ample time over the summer to get married! I find it strange that this has happened during a time when he should be working. Are we going to give him some extra time off to honeymoon too?

I think he was" honeymooning" most of last season with us . Like you I find it ridiculous players cant take holidays or get married during close season, after all they know when close season starts 10 months in advance

[Silkyskills1]

Was he reluctant to come?

He missed his scheduled flight didn't he? Was a last day rush if I remember correctly.

[Wokingclaret]

Hull Vice Chair has said Boro are leading the way foer Conway

[jedi_master]

I am starting to wonder if we were ever really in for Conway. If we wanted him we have the money and the players (i.e, Twine) to make it happen pretty quickly.