Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Ric_C]

As others have mentioned, ideally we need more guidance on player sales as our whole business model over the last few years has been buying young potential with the aim to develop and sell on for profit.

If the fee is over 30m then fair enough but if it is around 20m then I'm not sure.

[KRBFC]

We will not sell Wilson Odobert in this transfer window at a profit.

Pin that on your wall, stick it in your calendar.

Well I did stick in on my wall…..

[RVclaret]

Seeing €37m plus extras and future sell on from some dodgy X account with 11k followers who professes to be an ex PSG reporter.

Probably all made up but if around that level I’d be delighted.

Pretty sure that guy had info on Odobert to us in the first place, seen him before anyway.

[RVclaret]

Well I did stick in on my wall…..

BigGaz proper had his pants down, poor fella, said we wouldn’t sell anyone for over 20m and he wouldn’t sell Odobert for a profit. In fact called anyone who thought we would do both completely delusional.

[123EasyasBFC]

Tresor redemption anyone?

[Greekclaret]

Still believe koleosho will be a better player overall. Odobert didn’t get game time until kolo was injured. Still gutted though. Hopefully a big fee

[CoolClaret]

€37 mill is a great fee and hopefully that means that we do not 'need' to sell anymore.

Sad to see Wilson go, think he is an exceptional talent. Merci Wilson.

[Belial]

Not sure about the weeping and wailing over Odobert. He had as many poor/average games as good. Obviously a talent but we have enough and if we could use the money to get JBL I’d be delighted.

I think it's because he was in a poor team (or a team that was out if it's depth at least anyway) combined with the collective heads dropping by the middle of the season that could be part of the average performances.

He looked PL level to me and I'm sure he'll show it now he's in a better team. I just hope we got a fair price for him

Agree about JBL

[KRBFC]

BigGaz proper had his pants down, poor fella, said we wouldn’t sell anyone for over 20m and he wouldn’t sell Odobert for a profit. In fact called anyone who thought we would do both completely delusional.

Gutted to lose Odobert, posters on here hammering the point how Kompany signed a bunch of crap players had me convinced we’d be able to keep them all.

[Steddyman]

Here is the link for the fee. Happy with this, means less pressure to sell others cheap. Also, that is + addons.

https://x.com/LeMechenoua/status/1824380732040507412

[JarrowClaret]

€37 mill is a great fee and hopefully that means that we do not 'need' to sell anymore.

Sad to see Wilson go, think he is an exceptional talent. Merci Wilson.

We need to sell another 6 players at least just to have the right amount! I get your point though hopefully we aren’t forced to sell anyone else we would LIKE to keep unless it is a very big fee.

[LongsideClaret]

No sure on fee yet, will do some digging.

Sounds like the start of quite a few exists to come though.

Albeit none of this is a surprise, in fact it’s probably a surprise we’ve had so few exits this late in the summer.

£30m guaranteed, vast majority up front and rest due next summer. Not sure on % of sell on but believe there is one.

[Burnley Ace]

Given the constant criticism he received last season (what was his overall match rating score) and we have Benson and Big Z who, we keep getting told, are much better and were only not playing because of VK, then for €37m there should be a queue of cars outside the Tirf waiting to drive him down to WHL!!!

[matttheclaret]

£30m guaranteed, vast majority up front and rest due next summer. Not sure on % of sell on but believe there is one.

Tbf, that's a really good price. If it potentially helps us keep O'Shea, Berge, Esteve etc, then it's probably not the end of the world. Of course if those players still go....

[BigGaz]

Until I see it's over 20m from an official source then I will stick to my guns.

If it is over 20m, I'll continue to stick to my guns in that it's not so much of an indicator of his ability, in which he really did flatter to deceive most of last season, more an indicator of the degenerate out of control fees that we continue to see.

[RicardoMontalban]

We need to sell another 6 players at least just to have the right amount! I get your point though hopefully we aren’t forced to sell anyone else we would LIKE to keep unless it is a very big fee.

With the amounts we appear to have recouped from Muric, Odobert and Kompany I think it’s more that we have a surplus of 6(ish) players that we could do with moving on, rather than “needing to”.

[CoolClaret]

We need to sell another 6 players at least just to have the right amount! I get your point though hopefully we aren’t forced to sell anyone else we would LIKE to keep unless it is a very big fee.

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I heard we needed to raise circa 50 mill to service debts, fag packet maths but say 8 mill Muric, 10 mill VK, 30 mill Wilson... add ons with Bastien sale and maybe a few fringe players that leave and there's your 50 mill +

[jedi_master]

£30m guaranteed, vast majority up front and rest due next summer. Not sure on % of sell on but believe there is one.

Fair play as far as I’m concerned.

He was always going to go I think this summer, he was the one I fully expected to be gone early doors. I was amazed he was still here frankly. He’s a great talent but let’s be real here, it’s a position we can afford a loss in. Vital Benson is now kept and Amdouni is retained to play in the ten.

[JarrowClaret]

With the amounts we appear to have recouped from Muric, Odobert and Kompany I think it’s more that we have a surplus of 6(ish) players that we could do with moving on, rather than “needing to”.

Yes that is exactly what I was saying we need to move 6 on so we have the right amount of players

[JarrowClaret]

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I heard we needed to raise circa 50 mill to service debts, fag packet maths but say 8 mill Muric, 10 mill VK, 30 mill Wilson... add ons with Bastien sale and maybe a few fringe players that leave and there's your 50 mill +

No idea on what we need to raise I was just commenting on the amount of players we have

[burnley007]

£30m guaranteed, vast majority up front and rest due next summer. Not sure on % of sell on but believe there is one.

A lot for us, not a lot for Spuds.
They get a top young talent, we get to balance the books.
Wilson gets to play in the Prem, where he belongs.

Everyone's a winner.

[Commy]

Off the Spurs board but don't know if they are actually being truthful or just bs.

Knew about this several weeks ago. The clubs have been going back and forth over some small details for a while now, mostly down to Levy shaving to fee down.

[RicardoMontalban]

Yes that is exactly what I was saying we need to move 6 on so we have the right amount of players

I think you’ve misunderstood me there. You’re seemingly saying there’s an imperative to sell. I’d suggest not anymore.

[burnley007]

What's the latest with Zeki? Is he training now? Ready for tomorrow?

[Commy]

What's the latest with Zeki? Is he training now? Ready for tomorrow?

I am sure I read somewher, might have been on here, that Zeki's agent was touting him around as Burnley want to sell.

[burnley007]

Now that we've raised plenty of cash, maybe we can keep Berge, he is irreplaceable in this squad.
I'm assuming Wout will go too for a few mill.
I also don't mind Benny leaving, unpopular opinion, but he should be playing 1st team football for someone. I like the kid and want to see him playing, don't like seeing him on the bench.

[RVclaret]

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I heard we needed to raise circa 50 mill to service debts, fag packet maths but say 8 mill Muric, 10 mill VK, 30 mill Wilson... add ons with Bastien sale and maybe a few fringe players that leave and there's your 50 mill +

Muric was 10 rising to 15, just to bump things closer to your 50

[JarrowClaret]

I think you’ve misunderstood me there. You’re seemingly saying there’s an imperative to sell. I’d suggest not anymore.

Not imperative from a financial perspective no I agree but pointless paying for players we can’t play or even include in our squad so it is imperative from a squad cohesion and size perspective.

[KRBFC]

Until I see it's over 20m from an official source then I will stick to my guns.

If it is over 20m, I'll continue to stick to my guns in that it's not so much of an indicator of his ability, in which he really did flatter to deceive most of last season, more an indicator of the degenerate out of control fees that we continue to see.

Why over 20m? You said we wouldn’t sell him for profit and we paid £8m?

[RicardoMontalban]

Not imperative from a financial perspective no I agree but pointless paying for players we can’t play or even include in our squad so it is imperative from a squad cohesion and size perspective.

I think what it does is give us a bit more freedom to loan fringe players out, rather than needing the transfer fees.

[Poulton-le-Claret]

If Man United have a bad start to the season, they will be back in for Berge paying whatever we ask.

[billyhamilton82]

Off the Spurs board but don't know if they are actually being truthful or just bs.

Knew about this several weeks ago. The clubs have been going back and forth over some small details for a while now, mostly down to Levy shaving to fee down.

If that's true Well Done Alan Pace!

Obvious to me then until his performance against Luton Levy didn't want to pay £30m.

Monday night football before the Premier League season has kicked off, Odobert plays a blinder and within hours he's having a medical.

[CrosspoolClarets]

Considering we now have the same fee confirmed from Paris and from Longside’s sources I am happy to take it as read. That is excellent work, and could easily lead to a further sell on if he moves back to PSG in the future. A club record fee. As per my recent post, kudos to Matt Williams who was our best signing.

I now expect outgoings including VK to exceed the money spent a year ago, leave us in profit, cover the financial hit of relegation, and leave behind a stronger squad than went up. That is progression, hopefully one that keeps us up in 2 years time.

Probably best for those who panicked about the club spending up to £100m to do a bit of reflection. As long as there is resale value the strategy is fine, even if debt was needed to do it (should have layered it with some experience too but that is a different concern - I expect good experience to walk through the door soon once we have raised enough dosh).

[jedi_master]

We forget also, Houtondji (at least in clips) looks like he can play off the right in a sort of Tella manner. Maybe this opens the door for him.

[Hipper]

I would have thought Odobert would be a good 'sell and loan back for a season' option.

I see Ryan Sessegnon was released by Spurs and has gone back to Fulham. I always thought he was a talented player but it doesn't seemed to have worked out, yet.

[randomclaret2]

€37 mill is a great fee and hopefully that means that we do not 'need' to sell anymore.

Sad to see Wilson go, think he is an exceptional talent. Merci Wilson.

I make that around £52m in now , for Odobert, Muric, BPF, Vigoroux, and the Kompany compensation.

[BigGaz]

Why over 20m? You said we wouldn’t sell him for profit and we paid £8m?

I'm addressing the part where I said we wouldn't sell anyone over 20m. I'm stunned that we have but happy to have been proven wrong.

It's also not correct that we paid 8m for him so you're wrong on that one.

[burnley007]

Considering we now have the same fee confirmed from Paris and from Longside’s sources I am happy to take it as read. That is excellent work, and could easily lead to a further sell on if he moves back to PSG in the future. A club record fee. As per my recent post, kudos to Matt Williams who was our best signing.

I now expect outgoings including VK to exceed the money spent a year ago, leave us in profit, cover the financial hit of relegation, and leave behind a stronger squad than went up. That is progression, hopefully one that keeps us up in 2 years time.

Probably best for those who panicked about the club spending up to £100m to do a bit of reflection. As long as there is resale value the strategy is fine, even if debt was needed to do it (should have layered it with some experience too but that is a different concern - I expect good experience to walk through the door soon once we have raised enough dosh).

Talking of stronger squad, we also forget that we still have Ramsey to come back, who previously was a star at this level.
These are decent times.

[RVclaret]

Sacha saying it’s a deal worth £37m inc add ons.

[Flying Without Ings]

Sacha reporting 37m pounds rather than euros plus add ons etc.

[bart_claret]

French press say 37 euros plus bonus plus sell on fee

Thought he would have gone for more than that.

[123EasyasBFC]

Spurs reporter saying it’s 25m + 5 in add ons

[jedi_master]

That is a phenomenal fee - I would have taken £25m and that’s with absolutely no disrespect to Wilson. Hope he tears it up.

[bart_claret]

If Man United have a bad start to the season, they will be back in for Berge paying whatever we ask.

Let's hope for a Fulham win tonight then.

[Holtyclaret]

You’d expect 2 or 3 to go to Dundee for the season (helps numbers)

[CrosspoolClarets]

Spurs reporter saying it’s 25m + 5 in add ons

More likely it is £25m up front and £5m next summer which then aligns with what Longside found out.

Buying clubs get their pet reporters to downgrade the fee for their own interests, ours the opposite. The Parisien guy feels correct.

[LongsideClaret]

Spurs reporter saying it’s 25m + 5 in add ons

That’s the payment structure but all of it is guaranteed.

[LongsideClaret]

More likely it is £25m up front and £5m next summer which then aligns with what Longside found out.

Buying clubs get their pet reporters to downgrade the fee for their own interests, ours the opposite. The Parisien guy feels correct.

Nail on the head.

[Burnley1989]

All we need to do now is sell that massive useless dosser Tresor and his mate Weghorst and we really are cooking on gas.

He's been ill, but I think you already knew that.

[BigGaz]

For 8 months?