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First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:12 pm

Squad list of players who have been in and around the first team this pre season

GK
Hladky
Trafford
Casper

RB
Roberts
Sambo
Vitinho

CB
Al-dakhil
Beyer
Estève
Ekdal
O’Shea
McNally
Delcroix
Egan-Riley

LB
Pires
Dodgson

CM
Brownhill
Berge
Cullen
Bastien
Massengo
JBG

AM
Twine
Amdouni
Ramsey

RW
Benson
Redmond
Koleosho
Costello
Ageyi

LW
Zaroury
Odobert
Churlinov
Tresor

ST
Foster
Jay Rod
Hountonji
Obafemi
Weghorst

39 players - 7 under 21 that doesn’t need to be registered
32 ‘senior’ players that we need to cut down to 25 so at least 7 players need to leave

Ideal scenario would be - delcroix, McNally, Bastien, twine, Costelloe, churlinov, Tresor and weghorst leave

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Re: First team squad list

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:18 pm

Need more than 7 leaving as it’s impossible to keep others happy and match ready. Plus you need 7 homegrown in a matchday squad of 20. So that opens the door for Ekdal, Al-Dakhil and/or Beyer to leave as well, while signing a new centre back who classes as HG. I’d add Obafemi to the exit list too.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by JR1882 » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:21 pm

It’s embarrassing how good this squad is for this league. Some time until the window closes but this is surely the strongest squad we have ever had at this level.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:31 pm

I really think Twine's home grown status, reasonable showings on loan last season and pockets of bits for us in the promotion season show he is maybe worth keeping at Burnley from the list of obvious types to try and sell/loan out.
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Re: First team squad list

Post by Boss Hogg » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:34 pm

On paper it does look a strong squad for this level. Who do we leave out of the named squad though if we can’t sell them in time ? I suppose we will have to look at last minute loans out.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by bumba » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:37 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:21 pm
It’s embarrassing how good this squad is for this league. Some time until the window closes but this is surely the strongest squad we have ever had at this level.
I think the championship winning team from 15/16 would beat this current squad by 4/5 goals

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Re: First team squad list

Post by JohnMac » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:37 pm

Given the squad needs to be stengthened and increased if we go back up, is it more likely we will loan players out again?

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:47 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:31 pm
I really think Twine's home grown status, reasonable showings on loan last season and pockets of bits for us in the promotion season show he is maybe worth keeping at Burnley from the list of obvious types to try and sell/loan out.
Did he have reasonable showings on loan last season? I think there is a decent player in there but I think he’s worth getting your money back for and replacing

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:54 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:18 pm
Need more than 7 leaving as it’s impossible to keep others happy and match ready. Plus you need 7 homegrown in a matchday squad of 20. So that opens the door for Ekdal, Al-Dakhil and/or Beyer to leave as well, while signing a new centre back who classes as HG. I’d add Obafemi to the exit list too.
So far at the minute including the young players on the list we have 14 home grown players, I know there’s a couple who are injured but out of 14 you should be able to fit 7 in a match day squad. Injury free you have O’Shea, Cullen and brownhill are likely to be in the starting 11 and tbf I would probably have roberts starting at right back to, that’s already 4 home grown players, only need another 3 on a bench of 9. If Trafford stays then he’s going to be another one in the match day squad so that would only them leave another 2 home grown outfield players out for of 8 subs

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Re: First team squad list

Post by BleedingClaret » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:01 pm

Big Squad yes
Fairly strong best 25 plus 7 U21’s for Championship level
By no means the best first 11 at this level
From 22/23
Muric, Mattsen, THB & Tella would all start if in this squad
We haven’t at present 4 players proven to be better than them in their positions

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Re: First team squad list

Post by jedi_master » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:05 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:47 pm
Did he have reasonable showings on loan last season? I think there is a decent player in there but I think he’s worth getting your money back for and replacing
Well by my reckoning he's played 49 games in the Championship across three clubs and scored 9 goals. He has had injury troubles and had to fit into three separate clubs so has had a limited settling in period anywhere he's been. To be scoring at around 1 in 5 from various wide and central attacking positions (not up front) and only just turned 25 seems reasonable to me. We do not have anyone else in our squad that can take a free kick like him either, which is always a useful attribute.

I think he's worth one more season chance with us and we would still likely be able to claw back £2-3m at the end of the season if it doesn't work out for him at Burnley.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by JarrowClaret » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:18 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:47 pm
Did he have reasonable showings on loan last season? I think there is a decent player in there but I think he’s worth getting your money back for and replacing
Yes at Bristol he did very well, the Club and more importantly for this point the majority of fans want him back which speaks volumes. Not so much with Hull so a reasonable showing is a fare point in my view if you take both loans into context.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by JarrowClaret » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:35 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:12 pm
Squad list of players who have been in and around the first team this pre season

GK
Hladky
Trafford
Casper

RB
Roberts
Sambo
Vitinho

CB
Al-dakhil
Beyer
Estève
Ekdal
O’Shea
McNally
Delcroix
Egan-Riley

LB
Pires
Dodgson

CM
Brownhill
Berge
Cullen
Bastien
Massengo
JBG

AM
Twine
Amdouni
Ramsey

RW
Benson
Redmond
Koleosho
Costello
Ageyi

LW
Zaroury
Odobert
Churlinov
Tresor

ST
Foster
Jay Rod
Hountonji
Obafemi
Weghorst

39 players - 7 under 21 that doesn’t need to be registered
32 ‘senior’ players that we need to cut down to 25 so at least 7 players need to leave

Ideal scenario would be - delcroix, McNally, Bastien, twine, Costelloe, churlinov, Tresor and weghorst leave
Tresor is more of a AM than winger in my opinion I think when he plays it is generally with the freedom to come inside when he wants to. For me that was 1 of the issues with how we played him as he seemed to be used as a more traditional right winger mostly. Anyway if the rumours of him not reporting back are true and it wasn’t sanctioned by the Club then he has to be 1 that’s off.

I suspect from your list we will lose these either on loan or sold there are 2 that need to play but I would expect to keep so should go on loan. 3 I would personally keep if at all possible (Trafford, Berge and Odebert).

Trafford

Roberts

Mcnally
Egan-Riley
Al dakhil (loan)

Dodgeson

Bastian
Berge

Tresor
Churlinov
Costello
Agyei (loan)
Odebert

Weghorst
Obafemi

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Re: First team squad list

Post by jrgbfc » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:37 pm

With so many of our centre backs seemingly injured can we afford to let McNally go?
We really need to start shipping a few out though, impossible to get any kind of team spirit going with such a bloated squad.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:39 pm

jedi_master wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:05 pm
Well by my reckoning he's played 49 games in the Championship across three clubs and scored 9 goals. He has had injury troubles and had to fit into three separate clubs so has had a limited settling in period anywhere he's been. To be scoring at around 1 in 5 from various wide and central attacking positions (not up front) and only just turned 25 seems reasonable to me. We do not have anyone else in our squad that can take a free kick like him either, which is always a useful attribute.

I think he's worth one more season chance with us and we would still likely be able to claw back £2-3m at the end of the season if it doesn't work out for him at Burnley.
The whole free kick thing isn’t a reason to keep a player, he has to be on the pitch to take a free kick. I would much rather have Amdouni and playing off the striker rather than twine

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Re: First team squad list

Post by RVclaret » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:43 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:37 pm
With so many of our centre backs seemingly injured can we afford to let McNally go?
We really need to start shipping a few out though, impossible to get any kind of team spirit going with such a bloated squad.
Probably why he is still hanging around.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:44 pm

jrgbfc wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:37 pm
With so many of our centre backs seemingly injured can we afford to let McNally go?
We really need to start shipping a few out though, impossible to get any kind of team spirit going with such a bloated squad.
Al-dakhil, Ekdal and Beyer all being in Spain is a positive sign at least in the injury front

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Re: First team squad list

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:51 pm

JR1882 wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:21 pm
It’s embarrassing how good this squad is for this league. Some time until the window closes but this is surely the strongest squad we have ever had at this level.
Nowhere near the best for me, just the biggest in terms of numbers.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by matttheclaret » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:56 pm

ClaretTony wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:51 pm
Nowhere near the best for me, just the biggest in terms of numbers.
Not sure about that. It looks quite a weak league this year, maybe Leeds aside. Struggling to see many who have a better squad than we currently do.

You're right about the numbers - way too many

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Re: First team squad list

Post by ElectroClaret » Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:56 pm

Also, might there be more incomings?
Or is that our recruitment done?

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Re: First team squad list

Post by ClaretTony » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:00 pm

matttheclaret wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:56 pm
Not sure about that. It looks quite a weak league this year, maybe Leeds aside. Struggling to see many who have a better squad than we currently do.

You're right about the numbers - way too many
I wasn’t so much comparing it to other clubs, more to squads we’ve had before.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by JarrowClaret » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:04 pm

ElectroClaret wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 3:56 pm
Also, might there be more incomings?
Or is that our recruitment done?
Our recruitment has to be done for now surely, at least until we cut the squad significantly so I wouldn’t expect any incomings until towards the end of the window.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by Shaggy » Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:17 pm

The centre backs need trimmed down and Trafford needs to go asap. We need at least our money back as he was a major factor in our relegation.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by billyhamilton82 » Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:23 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:12 pm
Squad list of players who have been in and around the first team this pre season

GK
Hladky
Trafford
Casper

RB
Roberts
Sambo
Vitinho

CB
Al-dakhil
Beyer
Estève
Ekdal
O’Shea
McNally
Delcroix
Egan-Riley

LB
Pires
Dodgson

CM
Brownhill
Berge
Cullen
Bastien
Massengo
JBG

AM
Twine
Amdouni
Ramsey

RW
Benson
Redmond
Koleosho
Costello
Ageyi

LW
Zaroury
Odobert
Churlinov
Tresor

ST
Foster
Jay Rod
Hountonji
Obafemi
Weghorst

39 players - 7 under 21 that doesn’t need to be registered
32 ‘senior’ players that we need to cut down to 25 so at least 7 players need to leave

Ideal scenario would be - delcroix, McNally, Bastien, twine, Costelloe, churlinov, Tresor and weghorst leave
Just bumping this back to the top to understand the current situation as I'm unsure how many we need to sell/loan to fit the required criteria.

As far as I can tell we have added Green as another keeper.

Then, Churlinov, Costelloe and Bastien have left on loans or sales.

Therefore that makes a net 2.

I'm assuming that means we have still to get rid of another 5 before the end of the window?

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Aug 16, 2024 12:37 am

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Thu Aug 15, 2024 11:23 pm
Just bumping this back to the top to understand the current situation as I'm unsure how many we need to sell/loan to fit the required criteria.

As far as I can tell we have added Green as another keeper.

Then, Churlinov, Costelloe and Bastien have left on loans or sales.

Therefore that makes a net 2.

I'm assuming that means we have still to get rid of another 5 before the end of the window?
The 5 to go really should be Delcroix, McNally, Tresor, obafemi and weghorst and then keep twine for the home grown purposes

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Re: First team squad list

Post by mybloodisclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:06 am

Shaggy wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 4:17 pm
The centre backs need trimmed down and Trafford needs to go asap. We need at least our money back as he was a major factor in our relegation.
Still positive I see Shaggy. Have you called for Parker to be sacked yet? You didn't like the last 2 managers so only asking.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by Benson » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:19 am

mybloodisclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 2:06 am
Still positive I see Shaggy. Have you called for Parker to be sacked yet?
That’ll come after our first defeat.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by willsclarets » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:13 am

I would go:

Ekdal
Delcroix
Amdouni
Berge (IF we can get 30m, spend some return on homegrown cm)
Jrod
Obafemi

Reluctant on a few here, but we have to be brutal. Jrod only goes if Weghorst wants to stay. I love jrod, but Weghorst is simply a better player at this stage of their respective careers.

Amdouni I just can't see fitting in. We have Ramsey and Tresor to come back in ACM/second striker. His value won't have depreciated too much at 23 despite not playing well thus far. He's one I wanted to see in the championship but ho hum.

Ekdal I don't think is a big enough improvement on McNally, and struggles to get a game. Maybe if o shea leaves he stays.

Berge I obviously want to stay but I think at the right price he has to go. I've not added Trafford here but same probably goes for him.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by dibraidio » Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:44 am

Kompany and Pace have had a lot of stick for last season but if you compare with the squad we had at the start of 22/23 then this is a stronger squad and a big positive is that we're not reliant on loan players.

I'm still expecting Trafford, Weghorst and Tresor to leave. Haven't seen much of Obafemi. Is Redmond likely to feature before January?

If we lose those players from the 25 man squad and none of the others this will have been a good window.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:47 am

willsclarets wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:13 am
I would go:

Ekdal
Delcroix
Amdouni
Berge (IF we can get 30m, spend some return on homegrown cm)
Jrod
Obafemi

Reluctant on a few here, but we have to be brutal. Jrod only goes if Weghorst wants to stay. I love jrod, but Weghorst is simply a better player at this stage of their respective careers.

Amdouni I just can't see fitting in. We have Ramsey and Tresor to come back in ACM/second striker. His value won't have depreciated too much at 23 despite not playing well thus far. He's one I wanted to see in the championship but ho hum.

Ekdal I don't think is a big enough improvement on McNally, and struggles to get a game. Maybe if o shea leaves he stays.

Berge I obviously want to stay but I think at the right price he has to go. I've not added Trafford here but same probably goes for him.
We have to keep Jay Rod, EFL rules state you need at least one player int he match day squad that has come through the clubs youth team, if you don’t have one then you can only name 8 subs

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Re: First team squad list

Post by burnley007 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:53 am

McNally
Delcroix
Egan-Riley
Bastien
Twine
Benson
Costello
Churlinov
Weghorst

That's a decent start. All will probably leave.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by AGENT_CLARET » Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:57 am

McNally - SELL
DELCROIX - SELL
EGAN-RILEY - SELL
BASTIEN - SELL
TWINE - KEEP
BENSON -KEEP
COSTELLOE - SELL
CHURLINOV - SELL
WEGHORST - KEEP

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Aug 16, 2024 9:10 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:57 am
McNally - SELL
DELCROIX - SELL
EGAN-RILEY - SELL
BASTIEN - SELL
TWINE - KEEP
BENSON -KEEP
COSTELLOE - SELL
CHURLINOV - SELL
WEGHORST - KEEP
Wouldn’t be enough sales

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Re: First team squad list

Post by willsclarets » Fri Aug 16, 2024 9:31 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:47 am
We have to keep Jay Rod, EFL rules state you need at least one player int he match day squad that has come through the clubs youth team, if you don’t have one then you can only name 8 subs
Ah ok. Well tbh I wasn't sure on that one anyway just for experience.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by billyhamilton82 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 10:13 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:47 am
We have to keep Jay Rod, EFL rules state you need at least one player int he match day squad that has come through the clubs youth team, if you don’t have one then you can only name 8 subs
I didn't realsie that tbh, you learn something new etc.

Wouldn't that slot on the bench be better served with up and coming talent from our youth team, which I assume the ruling was set up in the first place, to give youngsters an opportunity to be involved with the first team to progress their development?

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:42 pm

For me having 2 keepers out of 3 that aren’t home grown is such a wake of squad space

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Re: First team squad list

Post by IanMcL » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:18 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 8:47 am
We have to keep Jay Rod, EFL rules state you need at least one player int he match day squad that has come through the clubs youth team, if you don’t have one then you can only name 8 subs
Job for life, for Jay then!

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:37 pm

IanMcL wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:18 pm
Job for life, for Jay then!
Until we go up

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Re: First team squad list

Post by RVclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:42 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 1:42 pm
For me having 2 keepers out of 3 that aren’t home grown is such a wake of squad space
Yep, that’s why I was surprised by the Green signing. I’d imagine any new signings must be homegrown.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Aug 16, 2024 4:31 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 3:42 pm
Yep, that’s why I was surprised by the Green signing. I’d imagine any new signings must be homegrown.
Yeah surprised me to, keepers good way to keen in home grown rules, United did it with Lee grant and now with Tom heaton

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Re: First team squad list

Post by billyhamilton82 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:04 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 2:12 pm
Squad list of players who have been in and around the first team this pre season

GK
Hladky
Trafford
Casper

RB
Roberts
Sambo
Vitinho

CB
Al-dakhil
Beyer
Estève
Ekdal
O’Shea
McNally
Delcroix
Egan-Riley

LB
Pires
Dodgson

CM
Brownhill
Berge
Cullen
+Bastien
Massengo
JBG

AM
+Twine
Amdouni
Ramsey

RW
Benson
Redmond
Koleosho
+Costello
Ageyi

LW
Zaroury
+Odobert
+Churlinov

Tresor

ST
Foster
Jay Rod
Hountonji
Obafemi
Weghorst

39 players - 7 under 21 that doesn’t need to be registered
32 ‘senior’ players that we need to cut down to 25 so at least 7 players need to leave

Ideal scenario would be - delcroix, McNally, Bastien, twine, Costelloe, churlinov, Tresor and weghorst leave
OK so we have sold another two today.

I'm assuming this only knocks one of the tally a Odobert is under 21 and that we are down to 29 and still need 4 to go?

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Re: First team squad list

Post by claretskeith » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:12 pm

I think Benson, O'shea and Berge will all go.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by Leisure » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:13 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:04 pm
OK so we have sold another two today.

I'm assuming this only knocks one of the tally a Odobert is under 21 and that we are down to 29 and still need 4 to go?
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Think so but it's difficult to be 100% with the 25, home grown players and U 21's!

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:15 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:04 pm
OK so we have sold another two today.

I'm assuming this only knocks one of the tally a Odobert is under 21 and that we are down to 29 and still need 4 to go?
Yeah that’s about right and there’s 4 names we could easily lose. The most obvious being Delcroix and Tresor because they haven’t been at training yet. Then McNally once al-dakhil and Ekdal are fit. Then surely obafemi is out the door and one of weghorst and Amdouni

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Re: First team squad list

Post by AlargeClaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:17 pm

Could be another 6/7 at least sold and loaned . Presume we’ll look to then replace a couple once we’ve finished selling .
WW, Amdouni, O’Shea , Trafford , Berge , Obafemi must be hot favs to go .

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Re: First team squad list

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:27 pm

AlargeClaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:17 pm
Could be another 6/7 at least sold and loaned . Presume we’ll look to then replace a couple once we’ve finished selling .
WW, Amdouni, O’Shea , Trafford , Berge , Obafemi must be hot favs to go .
I’d imagine we would only replace Trafford and berge if sold based on positions. I don’t think we would replace O’Shea as things stand due to the amount of cbs we have
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Re: First team squad list

Post by billyhamilton82 » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:49 pm

SELL
McNally
Delcroix
Egan-Riley
Jay Rod
Obafemi

LOAN
Dodgson
Ageyi

I would put Tresor on the list but don't think we will receive anywhere near what we paid for him currently and therefore keep to inflate his confidence/value.

If its between JRod and WW I would keep WW as he offers something totally different to what we have.

I'm living in a deluded world that we don't lose any more of our best players

BUT If O'Shea and/or Berge leave we must replace them.

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Re: First team squad list

Post by Holtyclaret » Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:53 pm

Dundee will probably loan 2 or 3 off us again

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Re: First team squad list

Post by morninbob » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:01 pm

Holtyclaret wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:53 pm
Dundee will probably loan 2 or 3 off us again
Dodgson, agyei and Egan Riley?

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Re: First team squad list

Post by morninbob » Fri Aug 16, 2024 7:02 pm

billyhamilton82 wrote:
Fri Aug 16, 2024 6:49 pm
SELL
McNally
Delcroix
Egan-Riley
Jay Rod
Obafemi

LOAN
Dodgson
Ageyi

I would put Tresor on the list but don't think we will receive anywhere near what we paid for him currently and therefore keep to inflate his confidence/value.

If its between JRod and WW I would keep WW as he offers something totally different to what we have.

I'm living in a deluded world that we don't lose any more of our best players

BUT If O'Shea and/or Berge leave we must replace them.
5 of them qualify as homegrown.

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