Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Big Vinny K]

Im not sure how you'd get a figure like that and I dont know why we'd need to know that. All clubs rely on transfer income as part of their accounts. Brightons massive profit is solely down to that

In the last 2 years and including Odobert sale and also loan fees I’d estimate we have brought around £40m in from player sales. Likely that this is spread out over 3 or 4 years in terms of getting the money in.
If we start seeing more factoring arrangements - basically borrowing money in anticipation of future income or monies owed then not only does this point to more cash flow issues but also that £40m is likely to be reduced by the astronomical fees these factoring companies charge.
You’ve also got agents fees and possibly some sell on clause fees from these sales - I don’t know whether any were payable from selling Odobert and Muric (they make up most of the estimated £40m)

Obviously how much we bring in from player sales is very relevant to a club like Burnley. I know you mention Brighton but they have a sugar daddy who put in nearly £600m subsidising their losses before they started to make money from player sales. We clearly do not one of them so knowing how much we are bringing in is important to lots of fans interested in how we are balancing our finances.

[bobinho]

I wonder why so many players miss penalties then, after all the coaching they get?

Why managers claim they can't replocate the same pressures of a penalty shoot out in training?

Saka’s pen in the euros v Italy.

Saka’s (in fact EVERY pen taken by England players in this euros).

We’ve gone from being world class joke penalty takers to actual world class penalty takers in 3 years… how on earth do you think that happened?
Southgate’s not been particularly good for the national team in my opinion, but he’s made a monumental change in this area - by coaching.

[JimmyRobbo]

Can't see any foundation to the Vitinho story. It's like the Turkish teams bidding for Berge.

Doubt it's anything to worry about.

[dermotdermot]

I’ll be glad when this window shuts.

[Quickenthetempo]

Saka’s pen in the euros v Italy.

Saka’s (in fact EVERY pen taken by England players in this euros).

We’ve gone from being world class joke penalty takers to actual world class penalty takers in 3 years… how on earth do you think that happened?
Southgate’s not been particularly good for the national team in my opinion, but he’s made a monumental change in this area - by coaching.

I know they introduced players walking others to penalty spot and greeting them afterwards, what else do we know about the coaching?

All players practice them.

Do you think you could coach any player to be confident enough to take and score a penalty in a high pressure situation?

[Boss Hogg]

I wonder where the point is that we say no we need them for the team instead of just the profit.

[agreenwood]

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[ArmchairDetective]

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Homegrown

[Mattster]

Left footer. So doesn't necessarily mean O'Shea is off. Hopefully, he's coming in as Esteve's understudy.

[FeedTheArf]

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Wonder if the ‘mandatory’ element is contingent on us getting promoted. Otherwise I can’t see the reason for a loan, we might as well just do the transfer now.

[agreenwood]

I think he’s also played LB at Swansea and we’re still light there.

[distortiondave]

Loan now, transfer later is probably to help us (payment after expected promotion) and chelsea (sell homegrown talent in next summers window instead of this).

[agreenwood]

Wonder if the ‘mandatory’ element is contingent on us getting promoted. Otherwise I can’t see the reason for a loan, we might as well just do the transfer now.

FFP maybe?

[burnley007]

https://www.footballinsider247.com/bash ... ve-pundit/

Things change quickly!

[PremierLeagueClass]

Anyone know how he got on at Swansea last season?

[RVclaret]

I’ve seen that he’s with comfortable with both feet. Someone described him as ‘one of the most ambipedal players I’ve seen’. Played all across the back 4. Most importantly he’s homegrown so he can take Twine’s spot and/or McNally.

[123EasyasBFC]

With him being predominantly left footed hopefully he’s seen as potential at left back or back up to esteve which means Delcroix can leave.

Don’t see a young lad from Chelsea being a direct O’Shea replacement

[jedi_master]

The loan is Probably a PSR/FFP thing (a bit like how we were going to sign that lad from Dortmund last season who failed his medical, Coulibaly).

I said before when we first linked but all footage I can find of him he is playing left back , so he’s here to compete with Pires as much as Esteve I reckon. This might also though free us up to sell McNally seen as he can cover centre back until Ekdal, AAD and Beyer are back?

[Chester Perry]

The loan is Probably a PSR/FFP thing (a bit like how we were going to sign that lad from Dortmund last season who failed his medical, Coulibaly).

I said before when we first linked but all footage I can find of him he is playing left back , so he’s here to compete with Pires as much as Esteve I reckon. This might also though free us up to sell McNally seen as he can cover centre back until Ekdal, AAD and Beyer are back?

I would argue that is is more tied to promotion and/or current cashflow challenges, though the amortisation may have something to do with it from a PSR perspective

An obligated purchase at the end of the season would still provide Chelsea with the sale in the current financial year, where they will book the full sale value (important to their PSR) and us with the down payment, and a much reduced amortisation cost in the current year (likely important to our PSR).

[Pearcey]

We must be getting rid of some CB’s.

[Newcastleclaret93]

I think he’s also played LB at Swansea and we’re still light there.

According to transfermarkt he’s only played 1 game at lb in his career (including u18 fixtures).

Over 90% games at CB with 5-7% coming as a defensive midfielder.

[morninbob]

Vitiniho price being reported as 8m Euros.

[warksclaret]

We must rate Humphreys and we may still have links with Chelsea via Scotty, plus have a good relationship for the way we handled Maatsen

Even being cautious I suspect we could now release Delcroix (though that might not be easy), sell McNally before the window ,loan or sell Ekdal, loan Egan Riley,and get Beyer and Al Dakhill match fit.That should give us a net minus 3 in the squad list.It leaves us 5 decent centre halves when all fit, but realistically with our injury record at least one will probably be on the treatment table and I understand Beyer may still be some way away-he could be a candidate to loan out in Jan if fit to move, as he will desperately need game time

[burnley007]

We must rate Humphreys and we may still have links with Chelsea via Scotty, plus have a good relationship for the way we handled Maatsen

Even being cautious I suspect we could now release Delcroix (though that might not be easy), sell McNally before the window ,loan or sell Ekdal, loan Egan Riley,and get Beyer and Al Dakhill match fit.That should give us a net minus 3 in the squad list.It leaves us 5 decent centre halves when all fit, but realistically with our injury record at least one will probably be on the treatment table and I understand Beyer may still be some way away-he could be a candidate to loan out in Jan if fit to move, as he will desperately need game time

Delcroix would be a good player for 90% of Championship clubs.

[burnley007]

Vitiniho price being reported as 8m Euros.

Is this really happening???

It sounds crazy.

[morninbob]

Is this really happening???

It sounds crazy.

That's our price tag, doesn't mean it's going to happen, he's at the game today.

[agreenwood]

According to transfermarkt he’s only played 1 game at lb in his career (including u18 fixtures).

Over 90% games at CB with 5-7% coming as a defensive midfielder.

[Conroy92]

Vitiniho price being reported as 8m Euros.

Where from?

It would take me 15m minimum to sell him considering he's good enough in several positions in this side.

[morninbob]

Where from?

It would take me 15m minimum to sell him considering he's good enough in several positions in this side.

https://x.com/RevistaColorada/status/18 ... JNWDg&s=19

[JimmyRobbo]

Is this really happening???

It sounds crazy.

I have to admit I'd be a amazed.
I think 8m is about his value.
Surely there are better homegrown options for Flamenco wihtout having to spend big money (in Brazil).

I don't want him to go. He's versatile, is excellent at this level and has a great engine.

[claretskeith]

Are we trying to sell the starting lineup vs Luton.

[Pearcey]

No Trafford in the squad!

[morninbob]

Trafford is ill.

[Pearcey]

Trafford is ill.

Where’s that info from?

[burnley007]

Trafford is ill.

Hmmm.
Did he catch it off Tresor?

As if.

[claretskeith]

Did he catch it off Tresor?

Punched it.

[Andingle]

Where’s that info from?

Parker just said that on skysports news

[Steddyman]

I'd be happy to keep Trafford.

I've seen zero distribution out from the back from Hladky today. He just taps it to the player next to him.

[burnley007]

Any news on Trafford??

He must be going.

[Silkyskills1]

I'd be happy to keep Trafford.

I've seen zero distribution out from the back from Hladky today. He just taps it to the player next to him.

So we kept the ball then. Most football coaches would consider that a decent performance.

[Commy]

Parker just said that on skysports news

And we know he tells the truth after saying there was nothing in the offing regarding players outgoing. A day or two later Koleosho is off.

[Row x]

And we know he tells the truth after saying there was nothing in the offing regarding players outgoing. A day or two later Koleosho is off.

Bloody hope not

[Elizabeth]

I'd be happy to keep Trafford.

I've seen zero distribution out from the back from Hladky today. He just taps it to the player next to him.

After the last season I would be very happy for our goalie to just tap the ball to the player next to him.
The K is dead , long live BFC

[Rileybobs]

I'd be happy to keep Trafford.

I've seen zero distribution out from the back from Hladky today. He just taps it to the player next to him.

Clearly not a huge priority of Parker's. Our defenders look to avoid going back to the goalkeeper if they can which I personally find refreshing. Generally a good idea to let your best passers of the ball play the more difficult passes.

[Goalposts]

Flamenco in Brazil have enquired after Vitinho.

[Tall Paul]

[Elizabeth]

That's genius Paul, how you drew the comparison

[Hedontplayforyou]

I get the feeling that Benson will be sold before the end of the window . Anyone know why Zaroury wasn’t involved?

[JarrowClaret]

And we know he tells the truth after saying there was nothing in the offing regarding players outgoing. A day or two later Koleosho is off.

His words were something like there is nothing that I can talk about.

[NewClaret]

I love jbg, but if you think he has the pace to score the goal odobert did i think you're dreaming. But I agree with the rest, plenty of options. Still got Ramsey and Tresor as well as Amdouni in the 10 role too.

I was saying neither Amdouni or JBG would have the pace to score the goal Odobert did at Luton.