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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by Row x » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:18 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:15 am
To me not just Benson but the whole team were legends, only losing x3 games all season, breaking 100 point's in a season, winning x10 game's in a row, going x22 league game's without defeat and lifting the title at Ewood, legends the lot of them including Kompany
What about the Dyche promotion teams, are they all legends as well?

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:22 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:01 am
We are selling players who have shown that they can perform at PL level and replacing them with Championship level players. Sarmiento would only have stayed at Ipswich if they hadn’t been promoted. Hannibal has only shone at Championship level (Birmingham) but has failed to make the grade when stepping up a level (Manchester United and Sevilla).
Hardly had the chance to shine at Man Utd being down the pecking order, he's had x2 90 minute games scored x1 and been sub x6, Sevilla took him on loan but benched him for whatever reason, I personally think he'll become a massive crowd favourite at Burnley with his style of play, finger's crossed we get this over the line
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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:25 am

Row x wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:18 am
What about the Dyche promotion teams, are they all legends as well?
Did they break records like that Kompany team, did they win a title at Ewood, it's not what you do it's how you do it that makes a legend in my opinion

Anyway back to transfer window discussions :lol:

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Post by Pearcey » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:29 am

Picking Legends can be a personal thing, surely!
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Post by jlup1980 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:34 am

I don't think any of us really want to see Benson leave. He scored some incredible goals in our last Championship campaign and gave us a moment at Ewood that will never be forgotten. However, as much a I like him, it's telling that Kompany rarely started him in the Championship and then chose to completely ignore him last season. On top of that, Parker hasn't given him a minute during the first two games. The Manager see's more than we do. There must be a reason Houtondji, Amdouni, Gudmundsson, Weghorst, Massengo and Zaroury have all been given the nod off the bench before him.
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Post by ClaretAL » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:39 am

There was a moment in MTB 2 where a comment was made about a player drop in form for having a "night out with Bene may explain a lot) with raised eyebrows, so who knows what goes on behind the scenes.

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Post by Greekclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:52 am

Was Kolo having a night out with Bene. The issue wasn’t the night out as such, was more so the fact he was with bene.

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Post by JohnMcGreal » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:58 am

quoonbeatz wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 11:08 pm
Pretty telling that benson hasn’t been involved in the first 2 games, was barely involved last year and wasn’t anything like a regular starter the year before.

He was great as an impact sub back then but he probably wants to be more than that and fair play to him. I’d be willing to bet 22/23 with us will turn out to be the best spell of his career though. 10m is an excellent fee in that context, if we can get it out of Leeds.

We’ll always be grateful for Ewood.
This is why I'd be quite relaxed about losing Benson. There are serious question marks over his physical condition and whether he can really have much of an impact. He was amazing in those cameos two seasons ago but he's barely kicked a ball since then. I think anything close to £10 million would be fantastic money.

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Post by BleedingClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:59 am

kentonclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:01 am
We are selling players who have shown that they can perform at PL level and replacing them with Championship level players. Sarmiento would only have stayed at Ipswich if they hadn’t been promoted. Hannibal has only shone at Championship level (Birmingham) but has failed to make the grade when stepping up a level (Manchester United and Sevilla).
Hannibal is 21
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Post by Row x » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:00 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:25 am
Did they break records like that Kompany team, did they win a title at Ewood, it's not what you do it's how you do it that makes a legend in my opinion

Anyway back to transfer window discussions :lol:
23 games unbeaten was pretty special

Back to transfers, stoke fancy McNally
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Post by CaptJohn » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:01 am

Greekclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:52 am
Was Kolo having a night out with Bene. The issue wasn’t the night out as such, was more so the fact he was with bene.
I picked that up as well, which could explain a lot of what goes on behind the scenes and the lack of faith VK had in Benson.

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Post by Crookedbillet » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:28 am

Kolo? Bene?

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Post by Dodobdobodobo » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:30 am

Wouter Burger
6ft 3in Dutch defensive midfielder from Stoke linked this morning
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:36 am

Dodobdobodobo wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:30 am
Wouter Burger
6ft 3in Dutch defensive midfielder from Stoke linked this morning
Where’s he been linked? Can’t see any link to him

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:37 am

Dodobdobodobo wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:30 am
Wouter Burger
6ft 3in Dutch defensive midfielder from Stoke linked this morning
Where?

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Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:40 am

Dodobdobodobo wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:30 am
Wouter Burger
6ft 3in Dutch defensive midfielder from Stoke linked this morning
Hybrid replacement for Weghorst and Berge...? ;)
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Post by Steddyman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:40 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:15 am
To me not just Benson but the whole team were legends, only losing x3 games all season, breaking 100 point's in a season, winning x10 game's in a row, going x22 league game's without defeat and lifting the title at Ewood, legends the lot of them including Kompany
And so we should never sell any of those players that won the league even if they are bit part players now. Is that the logic people are applying to 'legends'?
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Post by Jambounchained » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:41 am

Wouter Berger would be a great signing although I haven't seen any links. Stoke paid around £4m for him I believe.

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Post by FeedTheArf » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:41 am

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:37 am
Where?
Nowhere is the answer. A very lazy FLW article last week suggested him as a possible Berge replacement as far as I can tell.

But if Stoke are interested in McNally there might be a deal to be done there. He was getting very good reviews last season and had some links to Spurs. Would definitely add some much needed height to our midfield.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:48 am

CoolClaret wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 10:48 pm
Imagine nonchalantly fobbing off a legit club legend that single-handedly won us the title at our mortal rivals... even worse people lapping it up because of some empty PR crap from the club.
What if he's a bit of a knob about the place though?
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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:48 am

Dodobdobodobo wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:30 am
Wouter Burger
6ft 3in Dutch defensive midfielder from Stoke linked this morning
Bloody champ man regens now 😂
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Post by Row x » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:54 am

Humphrey costing 12 mill

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Post by Blyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:54 am

Where has the Stoke player been linked ?

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:56 am

Romano saying Humphreys’s is 12m but Swansea fans said he was terrible, surely it’s not that big of a fee

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:57 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:56 am
Romano saying Humphreys’s is 12m but Swansea fans said he was terrible, surely it’s not that big of a fee
We've heard this before though.

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Post by Penwortham_Claret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:00 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:56 am
Romano saying Humphreys’s is 12m but Swansea fans said he was terrible, surely it’s not that big of a fee
They also said that Obafemi was good so I wouldn’t read too much into what they say

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Post by Blyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:00 am

He played something like 30 games for Swansea. Cant have been that bad.

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:05 am

Blyclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:54 am
Where has the Stoke player been linked ?
Nowhere.

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Post by Rick_Muller » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:06 am

Apparently we've got Ivan TONEY! trouble is, we're selling him , but not to Man Utd...

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Post by Benson » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:07 am

£12m seems like an awful lot of money for an unproven CB when there’s talk of us letting an oven ready Premier League CB go for £15m.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:08 am

Penwortham_Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:00 am
They also said that Obafemi was good so I wouldn’t read too much into what they say
I actually remember a lot of Swansea fans saying they didn’t rate obafemi either

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Post by Newcastleclaret93 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:10 am

Benson wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:07 am
£12m seems like an awful lot of money for an unproven CB when there’s talk of us letting an oven ready Premier League CB go for £15m.
I’m not entirely sure we can class O’Shea as an oven ready premier league CB.
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Post by Guller Bull » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:11 am

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:06 am
Apparently we've got Ivan TONEY! trouble is, we're selling him , but not to Man Utd...

:roll:

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I wouldn’t put any money on that.
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Post by boyyanno » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:12 am

12m for Humphries is a strange one.

You can only assume he's coming here to start games because we'd be repeating last seasons mistakes if we start commiting big money to players who aren't going to push the first team forward/improve us.

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Post by ArmchairDetective » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:12 am

Rick_Muller wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:40 am
Hybrid replacement for Weghorst and Berge...? ;)
Innovative way of getting squad numbers down :)

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:13 am

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:40 am
And so we should never sell any of those players that won the league even if they are bit part players now. Is that the logic people are applying to 'legends'?
I've NEVER said he shouldn't be sold so please don't mis quote me

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:15 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:10 am
I’m not entirely sure we can class O’Shea as an oven ready premier league CB.
Hes been basting his life away

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:15 am

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:12 am
12m for Humphries is a strange one.

You can only assume he's coming here to start games because we'd be repeating last seasons mistakes if we start commiting big money to players who aren't going to push the first team forward/improve us.
It’s an interesting one and surely we aren’t going to sell our two starting cb’s 3 weeks into a season (I’m thinking O’Shea will go, given all the speculation, but not Esteve as well!!). He’s a natural left footer but very comfortable on his right from what I’ve seen and read, played left back for Chelsea in pre-season and impressed their fans.

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Post by Benson » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:16 am

Newcastleclaret93 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:10 am
I’m not entirely sure we can class O’Shea as an oven ready premier league CB.
Maybe not for a side with top half ambitions but definitely a lower Prem team.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:16 am

Leeds linked to Hannibal now to

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:19 am

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:16 am
Leeds linked to Hannibal now to
I hope not, we can't compete with Leeds on any level unfortunately

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:21 am

Do we and Leeds have the same scouting/analytic research on players, oarticularly midfield and wingers where we always seem to be linked with the same player, or is there a mole in either camp.

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Post by Poulton-le-Claret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:23 am

Are Leeds deliberately copying us now? :lol:

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Post by KlyBfc » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:23 am

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:12 am
12m for Humphries is a strange one.

You can only assume he's coming here to start games because we'd be repeating last seasons mistakes if we start commiting big money to players who aren't going to push the first team forward/improve us.
Just my take, but i wonder if hes coming in now to settle in, play a bit (especially if we move to 3 at the back at times) with it more than likley Esteve will move on for big money in 12months or so. We then have his ready made replacement.

I think he’ll primarily cover for the 2 starting centre backs (and left back) instead of McNally or Delcroix, as he fits the home grown quota and they don’t. We can then shift those two out and with injuries we need cover even if Oshea doesnt go.
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Post by ANASS » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:23 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:19 am
I hope not, we can't compete with Leeds on any level unfortunately
Please explain why?

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Post by Swizzlestick » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:24 am

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:21 am
Do we and Leeds have the same scouting/analytic research on players, oarticularly midfield and wingers where we always seem to be linked with the same player, or is there a mole in either camp.
We're naturally going to be looking in similar markets for players, and the player's agent will always be looking to get competition going if a transfer is looking likely.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:25 am

boyyanno wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:12 am
12m for Humphries is a strange one.

You can only assume he's coming here to start games because we'd be repeating last seasons mistakes if we start commiting big money to players who aren't going to push the first team forward/improve us.
At 12m plus 2.7m in add one's and a big sell on %, he's surely going straight into the starting eleven

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Post by Blyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:27 am

AGENT_CLARET wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:19 am
I hope not, we can't compete with Leeds on any level unfortunately
I would say the complete opposite.

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:27 am

ANASS wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:23 am
Please explain why?
I'll give you three and you can work the rest out yourself

Bigger club

More pulling power

Bigger wage structure

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Post by Commy » Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:28 am

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 9:21 am
Do we and Leeds have the same scouting/analytic research on players, oarticularly midfield and wingers where we always seem to be linked with the same player, or is there a mole in either camp.
I thouight the same yesterday when mention of the French lad. It seemed weird that we would both be going for a French 2nd division player.
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