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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:43 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:40 pm
Nothing imminent on the midfield/winger/attacking front but a number of players spinning with the known targets. Not sure whether the Worrall news of the medical is true but I know he was looking round the training ground on Monday.
Nice one, you’d hope that we must be confident on getting players over the line to allow zaroury, Berge, JBG leave immediately

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Post by morninbob » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:43 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:40 pm
Nothing imminent on the midfield/winger/attacking front but a number of players spinning with the known targets. Not sure whether the Worrall news of the medical is true but I know he was looking round the training ground on Monday.
Surely worrall only comes in if O'Shea leaves?

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Post by Steddyman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:44 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:36 pm
Zaroury to Lens confirmed by Sacha. €9m plus 20%.

Was told earlier in the week he’d been gone imminently.
That's an excellent fee. More than we could have expected.

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Post by LongsideClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:47 pm

morninbob wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:43 pm
Surely worrall only comes in if O'Shea leaves?
Yes but that’s now a case of where he goes rather than if he goes. My hunch is that he’s played his last game for us, whether a deal is finalised before the weekend or not.

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Post by martin_p » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:47 pm

morninbob wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:43 pm
Surely worrall only comes in if O'Shea leaves?
We’ve only currently got three fit CBs and McNally may be gone soon. We probably need him anyway.

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Post by ksrclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:51 pm

So that’s Berge, Gudmundsson, Zaroury, and Al-Dakhil who all appear to be leaving imminently and then O’Shea, Benson and Weghorst who can’t be too far behind that.

I have to say, if the incomings are going to priced similarly to Humphreys, we might have been better hanging on to a few of those.

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Post by ŽižkovClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:51 pm

Anass, Anass Zaroury runs down the wing for Lens

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Post by Cleveleys_claret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:54 pm

I am really struggling with all these departures. Yes we need to reduce numbers which should be the likes of Twine, Mcnally, Obafemi, wout and others that already left. But if we are after recouping some money why don't we just sell our 100 million player whoever that was

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:56 pm

Soon the only person left from the Kompany era will be the set piece coach
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Post by LongsideClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:57 pm

ksrclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:51 pm
So that’s Berge, Gudmundsson, Zaroury, and Al-Dakhil who all appear to be leaving imminently and then O’Shea, Benson and Weghorst who can’t be too far behind that.

I have to say, if the incomings are going to priced similarly to Humphreys, we might have been better hanging on to a few of those.
Can add Obafemi to that list as well by the sounds of it.
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:57 pm

Well, they are certainly reducing the squad size.

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Post by Flying Without Ings » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:57 pm

9m is excellent for a player who gave us half a good season overall and failed at Hull.
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Post by Holtyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:59 pm

I do wonder how many skriking about dos potentially leaving also dubbed him dara o’shite last year 🤔

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:59 pm

I’m sure there were posters on here laughing at the idea of us making around 150m in sales this summer, with all the out going’s we won’t be far of that figure

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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:01 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:59 pm
I’m sure there were posters on here laughing at the idea of us making around 150m in sales this summer, with all the out going’s we won’t be far of that figure
I’ve got a running total on my phone of sales (and VK) plus potential (ones that LC has mentioned) and it’s sitting at £130m right now.
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Post by Steddyman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:01 pm

Flying Without Ings wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:57 pm
9m is excellent for a player who gave us half a good season overall and failed at Hull.
100%. Few of the rumoured outgoings so far will have a material impact on our first team this year.

O'Shea, Odobert and Berge will, but we seem to have done ok without the latter and have targets to replace the former.

Now we need to sprinkle in a few unknown gems for cheap, and the business model can continue to work well.
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Post by Andreshotboots » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:01 pm

Can't be easy for the remaining players to stay focussed too with all this movement and speculation..

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:02 pm

The panic by some is a bit weird.

We have sold 2 players who would have been first team starters up to now. Every single person knew the squad was too big and we had to lose a fairly high number of them. The idea we can just sell the ones a poster doesn't like and bring in good money while keeping the top ones in demand probably happens on some football manager game on the Xbox but doesn't in the real world.
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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:03 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:01 pm
I’ve got a running total on my phone of sales (and VK) plus potential (ones that LC has mentioned) and it’s sitting at £130m right now.
Unheard of

Surely within the incoming money we can get Larsen back

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Post by Tricky Trevor » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:05 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:01 pm
Can't be easy for the remaining players to stay focussed too with all this movement and speculation..
The players will know what’s going on andsome stayers should see it as increased opportunities.
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:08 pm

Is Tresor available for this weekend? :D

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:08 pm

Suspect Matt Williams will deserve a few days off once this window closes

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Post by BigBadBarnes » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:08 pm

So another summer of chaos in the transfer market, but a necessary one given how bloated the squad was. Even with the potential players still ear marked to leave we still have a strong squad that should be more than capable of promotion.

I'd like to see another forward added, one comfortable playing from the right. Going in to the season with just Vitinho and Redmond doesn't give me too much confidence.

If we can keep O'shea then even better but sadly with the links to Worral you would presume that means that a deal is expected to happen. If he goes to Wolves then I'm sure that will go down well with West Brom!

33 in total
Gk (3)
Hladky, Trafford*, Green
CB (9)
Esteve, O'Shea*, Humphreys*, Beyer, Ekdal, Al Dakil, Mcnally, Delcroix, EganRiley*
RB (2)
Roberts*, Sambo
LB (1)
Pires,
CM (5)
Brownhill*, Cullen*, Berge, Ramsey*, Massengo
RW (4)
Vitinho, Gudmundsson, Benson, Redmond*,
AM (2)
Amdouni, Tresor
LW (2)
Koleosho, Zaroury
Striker (5)
Foster, Weghorst, Rodriguez*, Obafemi*, Hountondji

Presumed to sign; Cb - Worrel*, Cm/am - hannibal*, Lw - Sarmiento
Likely out; OShea, Al Dakhil, Berge, Gudmundsson, Benson, Zaroury, Weghorst

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Post by whiffa » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm

One point here I think it's important to mention, I like others gave O'Shea a hard time early last season for his poor performances - he's come on leaps and bounds since then and now like the majority on here I'd like him to stay and will be gutted if he leaves.

Perhaps that's an attitude change we should all consider adopting when supporting other players who aren't at their best. Trafford immediately springs to mind. O'Shea is proof that players can improve and we should be backing them.

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Post by Steve-Harpers-perm » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm

RVclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:01 pm
I’ve got a running total on my phone of sales (and VK) plus potential (ones that LC has mentioned) and it’s sitting at £130m right now.
Was told Saturday we needed to make £100 million this summer in sales to balance the books.

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Post by claretcarrot93 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:12 pm

I know he has been injury prone but people been sleeping on Beyer. With Cullen he was our best player last time at this level.

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Post by claretonthecoast1882 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:13 pm

whiffa wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm
One point here I think it's important to mention, I like others gave O'Shea a hard time early last season for his poor performances - he's come on leaps and bounds since then and now like the majority on here I'd like him to stay and will be gutted if he leaves.

Perhaps that's an attitude change we should all consider adopting when supporting other players who aren't at their best. Trafford immediately springs to mind. O'Shea is proof that players can improve and we should be backing them.
Don't be coming on here and offering sensible suggestions :D
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Post by Blyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:13 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:02 pm
The panic by some is a bit weird.

We have sold 2 players who would have been first team starters up to now. Every single person knew the squad was too big and we had to lose a fairly high number of them. The idea we can just sell the ones a poster doesn't like and bring in good money while keeping the top ones in demand probably happens on some football manager game on the Xbox but doesn't in the real world.
Post of the day so far. Get that man a drink.

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Post by AlargeClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:13 pm

Once O’Shea , Traff, Berge and Amdouni are confirmed I guess we’ll be able to see what net profit ( if any ) we’ve made on our outgoings after replacements. As we had an actual player surplus and hit gold with Odobert , I’d imagine a reasonable surplus . Though we’ll clearly not be replacing like with like so asset value will be an interesting comparison .

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Post by claretspice » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:13 pm

Of the players that are departing, only really JBG, O'Shea and Zaroury worry or disappoint me. The rest are basically either players who should alwahys have been expected to leave (Odobert, Berge) or squad players who were always vulnerable to being moved out to create space in the squad (Benson, Twine, McNally, Obafemi, to some extent Al Dakhil). We needed to thin the squad and that was always going to involve some ruthless decisions.

But those three players are a surprise to me. JBG I suspect is a surprise to the club too. O'Shea was (is) a player I was hoping we'd build around, and Zaroury I think had great potential to be worth more than £8m one day, even it is a good profit here and now. Zaroury leaving deprives us of depth and options out wide, and O'Shea and JBG were leaders and experienced players within the squad.

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Post by burnley007 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:14 pm

Still no links to JBL coming home.

Cone on guys...sort it out.

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Post by 123EasyasBFC » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:16 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm
Was told Saturday we needed to make £100 million this summer in sales to balance the books.
Which would make sense as to why all the incomings are linked to loans with options and obligations to buy

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Post by warksclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:16 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm
Was told Saturday we needed to make £100 million this summer in sales to balance the books.
Interesting- do you think thats total takings or net profit from players sold. The latter is a tall order

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Post by NewClaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:17 pm

warksclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:08 pm
Suspect Matt Williams will deserve a few days off once this window closes
Man needs a big bonus this year.
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Post by summitclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:18 pm

LongsideClaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:57 pm
Can add Obafemi to that list as well by the sounds of it.
Some good news then.

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Post by Casper2 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:19 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm
Was told Saturday we needed to make £100 million this summer in sales to balance the books.
By who ?
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Post by RVclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:19 pm

claretspice wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:13 pm
Of the players that are departing, only really JBG, O'Shea and Zaroury worry or disappoint me. The rest are basically either players who should alwahys have been expected to leave (Odobert, Berge) or squad players who were always vulnerable to being moved out to create space in the squad (Benson, Twine, McNally, Obafemi, to some extent Al Dakhil). We needed to thin the squad and that was always going to involve some ruthless decisions.

But those three players are a surprise to me. JBG I suspect is a surprise to the club too. O'Shea was (is) a player I was hoping we'd build around, and Zaroury I think had great potential to be worth more than £8m one day, even it is a good profit here and now. Zaroury leaving deprives us of depth and options out wide, and O'Shea and JBG were leaders and experienced players within the squad.
The depth out wide thing is clearly something they are sorting out given links to Sarmiento, Sanchez, Anthony and Kebbal. Confident they will replace Zaroury / Benson. I mean there’s still Tresor and Agyei at the club.

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Post by ervi34 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:19 pm

claretcarrot93 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:12 pm
I know he has been injury prone but people been sleeping on Beyer. With Cullen he was our best player last time at this level.
But he hasn't played this year and is still injured. It will take months until he's up to speed, if he ever would be.

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Post by Vegas Claret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:19 pm

123EasyasBFC wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:56 pm
Soon the only person left from the Kompany era will be the set piece coach
jesus, I nearly spat my brew out at this one :D

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Post by ervi34 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:22 pm

summitclaret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:18 pm
Some good news then.
I will never forget how Kompany was ready to fork out 9 m on him two years ago.

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Post by Steddyman » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:23 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm
Was told Saturday we needed to make £100 million this summer in sales to balance the books.
That sounds way over the top to me. We spent about £120m last year, and had more than that in revenue from the Premier League.

This year we'll see about £60m from parachute payments (guesstimate)? I can see needing to clear £60m, but not £100m.

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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:25 pm

ervi34 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:22 pm
I will never forget how Kompany was ready to fork out 9 m on him two years ago.
A signing I'll never understand. Kompany pushed and pushed to get him in the summer but couldn't get the deal through. Signed him for less in January but then, even when he was shuffling the team after promotion was confirmed, he never gave him a start.
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Post by ClaretTony » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:26 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm
Was told Saturday we needed to make £100 million this summer in sales to balance the books.
Similar to what I've heard

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:26 pm

Colburn_Claret wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:40 pm
If it is true I hope we are getting a lot more for O'shea, because he's proved a lot more than Humphrey's till now.
With the low figure of 15m there must be a release clause In his contract

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Post by AGENT_CLARET » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:28 pm

Steddyman wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:23 pm
That sounds way over the top to me. We spent about £120m last year, and had more than that in revenue from the Premier League.

This year we'll see about £60m from parachute payments (guesstimate)? I can see needing to clear £60m, but not £100m.
Spot on

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Post by Burnley1989 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:28 pm

claretonthecoast1882 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:02 pm
The panic by some is a bit weird.

We have sold 2 players who would have been first team starters up to now. Every single person knew the squad was too big and we had to lose a fairly high number of them. The idea we can just sell the ones a poster doesn't like and bring in good money while keeping the top ones in demand probably happens on some football manager game on the Xbox but doesn't in the real world.
Exactly that, I do often suspect when reading a lot of these threads that they're dominated by young lads that play a lot of championship manager.

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Post by Woodleyclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:29 pm

Parachute payment whatever it is are needs factoring in and place money for last seasons finishing position.

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Post by Gp8419 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:29 pm

Andreshotboots wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:01 pm
Can't be easy for the remaining players to stay focussed too with all this movement and speculation..
I’m sure jay rod will be fine on his own he’s a big boy :D

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Post by kentonclaret » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:34 pm

Steve-Harpers-perm wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:10 pm
Was told Saturday we needed to make £100 million this summer in sales to balance the books.
Selling O’Shea for £15m (less sell on fee) will make a far bigger dent in our promotion hopes than it will in any outstanding debt.

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Re: Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

Post by TheFamilyCat » Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:34 pm

burnley007 wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 2:14 pm
Still no links to JBL coming home.

Cone on guys...sort it out.
Have you considered the possibility he may have no desire to come back?

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