Summer 2024 Transfer Window Discussion - Rumours and Links welcome

[Silkyskills1]

It was, and we clearly didn't have 5. Worral is one of the future 5 I believe.

For this league or a different one?

[123EasyasBFC]

Leeds spending 10m on a winger. Norwich spending 8.5m on a winger/striker. Yet here we with Mikey Johnston and Jaidon Anthony as options. Do we think we’ll make an attempt at making a marquee type signing or are they going to keep looking at the 2-4m deals?

Price someone is willing to pay for someone doesn’t always necessarily mean they are worth it

[quoonbeatz]

Mad how literally people are taking the 5 players thing.

[Stonehouse]

Most are assuming that Worral is going to be the replacement for Dara O’Shea.
Swapping a Premiership level defender with leadership qualities with a Championship level defender with leadership qualities. Oh, plus a few £million to reduce the debt burden.

Think you may being a bit presumptuous that any have the debt is being repaid.

[Swizzlestick]

Who are the marquee players Leeds and Norwich have signed, have I missed something?

[Vegas Claret]

Wonder if this puts an end to their interest in Benson, he's a forward/winger

[Colburn_Claret]

And quickly dropped thereafter.

He’s not a premier league CB.

Burnley were relegated with Tarks and Mee.......

[agreenwood]

It’s a loan with an option to buy?

Mandatory option we’re told.

[RVclaret]

Who are the marquee players Leeds and Norwich have signed, have I missed something?

Leeds getting Ramazani for £10m, former United, looks electric. Norwich signing Croatian striker/winger Ante Crnac who’s been linked with Bundesliga clubs for £8.5m. Just thought with the amount of money we are bringing in we might go for that next level of player and fee you typically get (obv not always) for that type of money.

[NewClaret]

Burnley were relegated with Tarks and Mee.......

That’s my exact point.

I don’t think anyone is arguing that Worrall is as good as either (both have gone on to have very good premier league careers)… and we went down with them, so….

Although I would argue they were relegated with Tarks and Collins actually. I think Mee’s injury was fatal that season.

[RVclaret]

Mandatory option we’re told.

From the club

‘Burnley Football Club are pleased to announce the signing of England U21 defender Bashir Humphreys on a season-long loan deal with an option to buy from Chelsea‘

The Athletic

‘Burnley have completed the signing of Chelsea defender Bashir Humphreys on a season-long loan deal with an option to buy.’

Only Romano who mentioned it being mandatory - I just can’t see us committing to paying £13m if we aren’t promoted.

[Newcastleclaret93]

Wonder if this puts an end to their interest in Benson, he's a forward/winger

Fair play to Leeds that’s actually a really good signing.

I still think we make a similar type of signing before the window closes

[RVclaret]

Wonder if this puts an end to their interest in Benson, he's a forward/winger

He’s a left sided, right footed winger. Benson is the opposite. Their fans reckon they need 2.

[agreenwood]

From the club

‘Burnley Football Club are pleased to announce the signing of England U21 defender Bashir Humphreys on a season-long loan deal with an option to buy from Chelsea‘

The Athletic

‘Burnley have completed the signing of Chelsea defender Bashir Humphreys on a season-long loan deal with an option to buy.’

Only Romano who mentioned it being mandatory - I just can’t see us committing to paying £13m if we aren’t promoted.

Simon Johnson of The Athletic has also reported it’s a mandatory option. He’s their Chelsea reporter.

[Walt]

Won't matter if Worrall is any good in the Prem. If the last couple of years is anything to go by, we'll have another new squad to look forward to next season.

[RVclaret]

Simon Johnson of The Athletic has also reported it’s a mandatory option. He’s their Chelsea reporter.

Fair enough. Weird one then.

[Greenmile]

Mandatory option we’re told.

Surely that’s an oxymoron.

[mdd2]

I thought this Humphries guy is OOC next summer so can’t get why we need to buy at all

[willsclarets]

Crikey news galore today. Not wholly negative at all, but sad to see Zaroury go, and letting Leeds have Benson is just asking for trouble if that happens. Would prefer him to go to Europe! But he needs to go somewhere for his career, he's too entertaining not to be on the pitch in front of a crowd.

Re:marquee signing. I don't think we need one. Maybe a CM with physical presence now Berge is leaving if anything. Aside from that we have more than enough at this level.

[123EasyasBFC]

Worrall
Hannibal
Johnston
Sarmiento
Then a cm and we are all set

[RVclaret]

Worrall
Hannibal
Johnston
Sarmiento
Then a cm and we are all set

Why would you want 2 left wingers who have no left foot and cut inside every time, when we we’ve already got a left winger who is probably one of the best players in the team? Building a squad is about having some balance, as we found out last season.

[warksclaret]

And quickly dropped thereafter.

He’s not a premier league CB.

Just like Matt Lawton and Ashley Westwood were not PL players. The Villa management had them training with the reserves/U 21's

[123EasyasBFC]

Why would you want 2 left wingers who have no left foot and cut inside every time, when we we’ve already got a left winger who is probably one of the best players in the team? Building a squad is about having some balance, as we found out last season.

Personally I see Sarmiento more as a 10 in our team

[bpgburn]

No, I realise that, that’s why I said if he’s one of our five I don’t think many of the 5 years will be spent in the premier league.

I don’t think he’s a premier league player, I didn’t think he was when we were linked under Dyche and I think his stint at that level at Forest proves that.

Imagine he’ll be useful in this division.

On your point about Al Dakhil, I agree today but I think his ceiling is higher in that he has the attributes to be with some bulking up and experience. I don’t think Worrall is or will ever be a premier league CB.

But I am also assuming Worrall is O’Shea’s replacement, who definitely is or he wouldn’t have multiple premier league clubs chasing him, so whichever way you look at it, a significant weakening of defence.

I think you think too much about things you don't seem to know much about, and boy you are prolific at it..

You say in a previous post with no doubt that he is not a prem CB, then in the above post it's, you don't think he is a prem CB and in this same post say he never will be let alone intimating he never was even back when Dyche was after him. You must have been tracking his career very closely for some years now, or is it just what you've heard? Give the bloke a break, at least let him kick a ball in our set up under SP before condemning him as not good enough..

[claret2018]

Surely that’s an oxymoron.

It means we definitely have to make a decision

[Jakubs Tash]

Why would you want 2 left wingers who have no left foot and cut inside every time, when we we’ve already got a left winger who is probably one of the best players in the team? Building a squad is about having some balance, as we found out last season.

Koleosho? Really?? He’s quick, yes….but he’s too busy running down blind alleys and giving silly petulant free kicks away to be one of the best players in the team.

[RVclaret]

Koleosho? Really?? He’s quick, yes….but he’s too busy running down blind alleys and giving silly petulant free kicks away to be one of the best players in the team.

Prem clubs were sniffing before his injury for 25m.

[CoolClaret]

I like Koleosho a lot... I still think we looked more threatening against Luton once Anass came on. Doesn't have the same in behind threat and directness but passing/linkup/crossing/vision a lot better, imo.

Koleosho can still develop of course and has all the raw talent to succeed. Just hope the new wingers have some football in them as well as we've lost a lot with Odobert & now Anass leaving.

[Stonehouse]

Koleosho? Really?? He’s quick, yes….but he’s too busy running down blind alleys and giving silly petulant free kicks away to be one of the best players in the team.

Think that’s a bit harsh on him ,he created mayhem against Luton and even if he’s running in to blind alleys the opposition aren’t sure where he’s going.

[Jakubs Tash]

Prem clubs were sniffing before his injury for 25m.

Were they? Paper / fans forum talk or actual enquiries?

Either way, he’s not a polished footballer - far from it. And as others have said, we’ve gone from a plethora of wingers to having to rely on an extremely raw 19 year old who has only played 6 months in England and an average championship full back as our winger options. Incredible and worrying at the same time.

[NewClaret]

I think you think too much about things you don't seem to know much about, and boy you are prolific at it..

You say in a previous post with no doubt that he is not a prem CB, then in the above post it's, you don't think he is a prem CB and in this same post say he never will be let alone intimating he never was even back when Dyche was after him. You must have been tracking his career very closely for some years now, or is it just what you've heard? Give the bloke a break, at least let him kick a ball in our set up under SP before condemning him as not good enough..

Well that is sort of the purpose of a message board, is it not? To share opinions?

I do tend to follow players we’re linked with, yes. Probably did it more so in the Dyche years when links were few and far between and we tended to track players for several windows before getting them over the line (or not in this case). I do the same with ex-players as well.

I wouldn’t say closely as in every game but I would say I’ve looked out for him in games we’ve played against them, in highlights and when I’ve watched Forests matches on TV.

My response to Steddyman’s post was that if we’d bought him to be one of our core 5, I don’t think a lot of them will be in the premier league. Thats not saying he’s a bad player or that he’s not a good player at this level.

I’ve supported that with my reasoning, which nobody seems to disagree with. If you do, just say so, I shan’t take offence and happy to debate it.

[Big Vinny K]

Prem clubs were sniffing before his injury for 25m.

£25m ?
Are you sure it was premier league clubs doing the sniffing ?

[Jakubs Tash]

Think that’s a bit harsh on him ,he created mayhem against Luton and even if he’s running in to blind alleys the opposition aren’t sure where he’s going.

I watched a different game to you v Luton then. He did ok but Odobert was comfortably the stand out player who made us tick. And he was dreadful v Cardiff - masked by a really strange 5-0 victory.

Maybe it is harsh - but it’s the reality. He needs an awful lot of coaching. I’d say he’s the most frustrating player in the squad.

[EarbyClaret]

O'Shea is a very good player - it would be great if he stays but that seems unlikely as there is more than one PL club supposedly interested in him

However, some of the comments about Joe Worrall as a potential replacement are alarmist to say the least

For all O'Shea's of commendable attributes - pace, organisation ability to chip in with a few goals - our PL relegation was the second on his CV. He improved as last season went on notably after the arrival of Esteve - he's 25 - only two years younger than Worrall and at 6.1 three inches shorter

Worrall has captained a team to promotion form this division and been part of a PL defence that survived their first season. He'll add much needed experience, leadership and an ability to get out of this division he shares with a core group of players in the squad and the manager

Surely the lesson to be learned from last summer's window is to focus on the primary objective - last year it should have been staying up this season it is going up - it's not like the club has abandoned the model but instead supplementing a pool of exciting young talent with the 'men' Dave Checketts identified as required to get the job done

[RVclaret]

£25m ?
Are you sure it was premier league clubs doing the sniffing ?

Yep.

[RVclaret]

I watched a different game to you v Luton then. He did ok but Odobert was comfortably the stand out player who made us tick. And he was dreadful v Cardiff - masked by a really strange 5-0 victory.

Maybe it is harsh - but it’s the reality. He needs an awful lot of coaching. I’d say he’s the most frustrating player in the squad.

He’s working his way back from a long term injury, hasn’t played since December. Before then he was probably our best and most dangerous attacker. In fact our performance at Wolves the night he was injured turned to s**t soon as he went off!

[Newcastleclaret93]

Worrall looks a done deal according to Fabrizio

[Jakubs Tash]

He’s working his way back from a long term injury, hasn’t played since December. Before then he was probably our best and most dangerous attacker. In fact our performance at Wolves the night he was injured turned to s**t soon as he went off!

All the more reason to have other wingers who he could dovetail with then…instead of selling them.

Our performance at Wolves wasn’t that good before he went off injured. It mirrored most performances in the entire season - a bright opening 15 minutes then fade badly and do very little for the rest of the game.

Koleosho needs a lot of coaching. He has the raw attributes but we can’t be relying on him to carry us for a full season.

[Row x]

Worrall looks a done deal according to Fabrizio

He's on the ball

[northeastclaret]

O'Shea is a very good player - it would be great if he stays but that seems unlikely as there is more than one PL club supposedly interested in him

However, some of the comments about Joe Worrall as a potential replacement are alarmist to say the least

For all O'Shea's of commendable attributes - pace, organisation ability to chip in with a few goals - our PL relegation was the second on his CV. He improved as last season went on notably after the arrival of Esteve - he's 25 - only two years younger than Worrall and at 6.1 three inches shorter

Worrall has captained a team to promotion form this division and been part of a PL defence that survived their first season. He'll add much needed experience, leadership and an ability to get out of this division he shares with a core group of players in the squad and the manager

Surely the lesson to be learned from last summer's window is to focus on the primary objective - last year it should have been staying up this season it is going up - it's not like the club has abandoned the model but instead supplementing a pool of exciting young talent with the 'men' Dave Checketts identified as required to get the job done

Totally agree. I would have expected that virtually all Burnley fans if they had the choice at the time would have preferred us signing Worrall to O’Shea this time last season . Excellent signing, a warrior like O shea are ideal for the battles ahead this season.

[CoolClaret]

Some very fair comments there regarding Worrall, I'm warming to the signing.

[123EasyasBFC]

Interesting stat from a forest fan, forest have a better points per game in the premier league with worrall in the team than they do with felipe, niakhate and murillo who were their first choice cbs last season

[brexit]

I do wonder how many skriking about dos potentially leaving also dubbed him dara o’shite last year

Love coked up posts

[brexit]

Joe Worrall:- good in the championship
Burnley:- Championship
A leader and decent character by all accounts. If we haven’t paid much then it’s a solid signing.

Captain when brownhill goes to west ham

[BurnleyFC]

It’s hard keeping up with all this transfer talk, but I haven’t seen us linked with a player yet that’s better than what we’ve already got or are about to flog.

[ervi34]

Ipswich have bid 15m for Jack Clarke. Could do with him leaving before Saturday.

[Silkyskills1]

Think that’s a bit harsh on him ,he created mayhem against Luton and even if he’s running in to blind alleys the opposition aren’t sure where he’s going.

I would much prefer it if he knew where he was going.

[Hapag Lloyd]

Love coked up posts

Keep ‘em coming then.

[brexit]

I would imagine it's more to do with having to have 7 homegrown players in the matchday squad. No point having a huge number of overseas players and then not being able to utlise them.

or scott parker is recruiting for a dychesque first season in the premiership with reliable pros

[Firthy]

Captain when brownhill goes to west ham

Can this thread get any worse. So many doomsday merchants