Could Parker walk?

[boatshed bill]

I have discovered that if you watch someone speak (as I have just done with Parker's post match interview) and turn the volume off that you can really analyse their body language. Parker definitely looks beaten up. Lets pray he and the club can secure some of the key players we are missing from our team in the next 6 days

Unless you are a quaified MHP I think you should be careful when spreading what could easily be described as an absolute pile of bullshit.
However, if you are fully qualified in this area of expertise can I offer my unreserved apologies.

[ksrclaret]

I have discovered that if you watch someone speak (as I have just done with Parker's post match interview) and turn the volume off that you can really analyse their body language. Parker definitely looks beaten up. Lets pray he and the club can secure some of the key players we are missing from our team in the next 6 days

You're spot on with this (ignore the weird response above). He looked utterly dejected.

[boatshed bill]

You're spot on with this (ignore the weird response above). He looked utterly dejected.

Ignore it?
Some things are better not said.
Tell me, please, why you think the post I responded to is anything short of disrespectful and based purely on an uninformed opinion.
In my opinion, the last thing we need right now is an amateur assessment of Scott Parker's body language.

[bumba]

What a ridiculous thread. Why would a manager who’s just started a new job walk? Especially one who has been out of work.

All sense and logic would suggest that he’s here unless a) he gets sacked or b) he leaves for a better job after a period of success.

Because he may have been sold a false sense of ambition from the club, right now we aren't showing any ambition

[CoolClaret]

I think I'd probably walk if I was SP who I presume has a boatload of cash and a decent pension/asset portfolio.

I cannot imagine that this current situation was sold to him in his interview for the job.

[BuryClaret]

Judging by his demeanour post-match, I think its a real possibility - particularly if he doesn’t get who he wants in this week.

[Big Vinny K]

Ignore it?
Some things are better not said.
Tell me, please, why you think the post I responded to is anything short of disrespectful and based purely on an uninformed opinion.
In my opinion, the last thing we need right now is an amateur assessment of Scott Parker's body language.

I haven’t seen the interview but I do know that you do not need to be some kind of professional to have an opinion on another persons body language.
Does not mean that opinion of their feelings is correct….and it may be or may not be wide of the mark for SP. He could indeed be extremely fed up after losing half of his first team or he could just be shattered after what I imagine has been a long and stressful week.

[boatshed bill]

I haven’t seen the interview but I do know that you do not need to be some kind of professional to have an opinion on another persons body language.
Does not mean that opinion of their feelings is correct….and it may be or may not be wide of the mark for SP. He could indeed be extremely fed up after losing half of his first team or he could just be shattered after what I imagine has been a long and stressful week.

I totally accept that point of view, but remain unconvinced of Warwicksclaret's assessment based on turning the sound down.

[Big Vinny K]

I totally accept that point of view, but remain unconvinced of Warwicksclaret's assessment based on turning the sound down.

I know….but you aren’t a professional body language expert either and you have also made an assessment too that his opinion is wrong.
The real point is it doesn’t really matter.

I get that when we have had weeks like this that people are adding 2 plus 2 and getting £100m !

[123EasyasBFC]

I think I'd probably walk if I was SP who I presume has a boatload of cash and a decent pension/asset portfolio.

I cannot imagine that this current situation was sold to him in his interview for the job.

He will of 100% been told there will be sales, also it could well be a case that some players have been into Parker since the start of pre season and expressed that they would like to move on and don’t want to play for the club anymore

[CoolClaret]

He will of 100% been told there will be sales, also it could well be a case that some players have been into Parker since the start of pre season and expressed that they would like to move on and don’t want to play for the club anymore

A few sales yes, not the situation we had today though. That was unacceptable.

[Shaggy]

If Parker walks then that’s his managerial career done at a decent level.

Hes not that daft and won’t walk away from a contract. How many managers in the last 10 years have walked just 3 games into a season because the board has sold a few players ?

I don’t know what’s goes through peoples heads sometimes. Not thought and logic anyway.

[123EasyasBFC]

A few sales yes, not the situation we had today though. That was unacceptable.

We needed more than a few sales, at the start of pre season we had around 34 senior players, we needed 10 to leave to be able to name a 25 man squad.

The situation today is unacceptable but if weghorst and benson have told Parker last minute they don’t want to be involved, that’s not anybodies fault. Then koleosho and Cullen get knocks.

There’s no way Parker took the job thinking most of the squad was going to stay together. But more foul him taking a job and working for an owner who was clearly obsessed with kompany

[Stayingup]

Scott Parker conducts himself well. Is he a good manager? Maybe but working for a board who has sold the best players that were here when he came he is compromised to say the least. Our owners are dreadful. On the way to ruining the club. The previous owners are also culpable.

[ksrclaret]

There’s no way Parker took the job thinking most of the squad was going to stay together. But more foul him taking a job and working for an owner who was clearly obsessed with kompany

Well I for one am grateful that Parker did take the job and I don't consider him a fool for doing so. He'll keep us as steady as is possible right now.

You're right though about the owner being obsessed with Kompany. He is a loose cannon and a huge problem for this football club.

[123EasyasBFC]

Well I for one am grateful that Parker did take the job and I don't consider him a fool for doing so. He'll keep us as steady as is possible right now.

You're right though about the owner being obsessed with Kompany. He is a loose cannon and a huge problem for this football club.

The owners obsession means Parker will have even littler say with what’s going on than a normal head coach/manager would have. The fact we have a random assistant manager from Denmark for a starter meaning Parker only brought one of his own guys with him.

We are only 4 or 5 players away from having a good squad again but it shouldn’t of come to that with 5 days of a window left

[ksrclaret]

The owners obsession means Parker will have even littler say with what’s going on than a normal head coach/manager would have. The fact we have a random assistant manager from Denmark for a starter meaning Parker only brought one of his own guys with him.

We are only 4 or 5 players away from having a good squad again but it shouldn’t of come to that with 5 days of a window left

I agree, the way Pace runs the club is an absolute calamity of poor decision making, but I'm still glad that Parker took the job. At least he's a genuine football bloke with the experience to know what it takes. He'll keep heads above water, certainly, and that's all we can ask right now.

[CoolClaret]

We needed more than a few sales, at the start of pre season we had around 34 senior players, we needed 10 to leave to be able to name a 25 man squad.

The situation today is unacceptable but if weghorst and benson have told Parker last minute they don’t want to be involved, that’s not anybodies fault. Then koleosho and Cullen get knocks.

There’s no way Parker took the job thinking most of the squad was going to stay together. But more foul him taking a job and working for an owner who was clearly obsessed with kompany

I just can't see those situations given the scenes we saw come 90 minutes at Luton and at home to Cardiff. Seemed like a real togetherness - like chalk and cheese compared with today.

[123EasyasBFC]

I just can't see those situations given the scenes we saw come 90 minutes at Luton and at home to Cardiff. Seemed like a real togetherness - like chalk and cheese compared with today.

The scenes at Luton and Cardiff didn’t really feature likes of benson and weghorst, Weghorst played up to the fans at Luton but we have known for 2 years weghorst wanted out.

O’Shea, Odobert and zaroury are the only 3 that featured at Luton who have left/leaving.

The last week has clearly got to the players it’s obvious but come Friday once the squad knows who’s together till January they have Saturday to bring the togetherness back

[CoolClaret]

The scenes at Luton and Cardiff didn’t really feature likes of benson and weghorst, Weghorst played up to the fans at Luton but we have known for 2 years weghorst wanted out.

O’Shea, Odobert and zaroury are the only 3 that featured at Luton who have left/leaving.

The last week has clearly got to the players it’s obvious but come Friday once the squad knows who’s together till January they have Saturday to bring the togetherness back

Weghorst played in both games didn't he? As did O'Shea, heck, Anass played in the first game.

I think what's getting to the players is seeing a dressing room that finally looked to have gelled a bit after the ringer they got put through last season is now being dismantled once again.

[warksclaret]

I am not professing to be a body language expert, though when I was working I did do several courses that featured it and it was extremely useful when interviewing, and in difficult meetings with clients. If you watch an interview on TV, because there is no volume and you cannot hear what someone is saying, your brain really focuses on the manner of the presenter, and it magnifies aspects that you would not normally focus on. Its not dissimilar to watching a programme for a second time-you pick up numerous things you missed the first time. Parker was definitely not as upbeat as we have seen him previously and it would not have been totally due to the defeat.Again let me repeat I am not professing to be a body language expert but for those that saw the Parker interview with sound, play it again with no volume and study Parker's mannerism , eye contact ,and face expressions

[Jakubclaret]

Very unlikely. All this would have been discussed before even accepting the job people leaving right left & centre hasn’t been dropped on him he would have expected it & still decided to continue. I think the first interview after becoming manager he said it had been a long drawn exhaustive process that would have covered some ground. He’ll be chilled out & relaxed about it there’s less pressure on him to deliver results with losing players.

[brexit]

Just been told Solskjaer has room booked at the higher trapp for Sunday and Monday night

[Bordeauxclaret]

Just been told Solskjaer has room booked at the higher trapp for Sunday and Monday night

Lovely. Hope he enjoys it.

[123EasyasBFC]

Weghorst played in both games didn't he? As did O'Shea, heck, Anass played in the first game.

I think what's getting to the players is seeing a dressing room that finally looked to have gelled a bit after the ringer they got put through last season is now being dismantled once again.

We knew weghorst was leaving and have done for a while, we still have 9 players who started at Luton and then and 10 players who started at Cardiff at the club

Time for leaders to step up, where is brownhill post match today, it’s left to Esteve who’s English is pretty good but surely captain of the club should be the one to come out and speak

[CoolClaret]

We knew weghorst was leaving and have done for a while, we still have 9 players who started at Luton and then and 10 players who started at Cardiff at the club

Time for leaders to step up, where is brownhill post match today, it’s left to Esteve who’s English is pretty good but surely captain of the club should be the one to come out and speak

Well according to reports the recently appointed club captain is another one the club's trying to cash in on.

On Weghorst, the point is that he still played and looked in good spirits (as did the whole squad), so I really don't buy this 'refusing to play' stuff. The lads that wanted out would've done that from the off.

To me it's more like the morale is being shattered because of Pace's disastrous handling of the club & his batshit insane 'project' with the revolving door on the dressing room. Imagine how Esteve feels right now?

[123EasyasBFC]

Well according to reports the recently appointed club captain is another one the club's trying to cash in on.

On Weghorst, the point is that he still played and looked in good spirits (as did the whole squad), so I really don't buy this 'refusing to play' stuff. The lads that wanted out would've done that from the off.

To me it's more like the morale is being shattered because of Pace's disastrous handling of the club & his batshit insane 'project' with the revolving door on the dressing room. Imagine how Esteve feels right now?

Weghorst and benson clearly have had something change in the last week to not be involved today and for Amdouni to still be involved.

Yes I wouldn’t blame Esteve or koleosho for wanting to leave

[Devils_Advocate]

Despite a lot of nonsense posted on here I think the majority of the squad still believed in and still wanted to play for VK, for some it was probably the main reason they joined us. I think Parker might have realised he's bitten off more than he can chew and feels a bit like Moyes did when he took over Man Utd after Sir Alex.

I think we really need Mr Pace, Matt Williams and the rest of the recruitment team to get Parker out of a hole and attract some quality players willing to play for him. They've been doing a great job with the deals on the selling side and have got in some good money so lets hope they do the biz this week on the buying side of things.

I really believe if we can get Parker a quality squad who are up for playing for him he has the skill and experience to get us promoted but I think he's struggling at the moment as he has obviously failed in winning over a lot of the squad and he frustration comes out in the interview.

[quoonbeatz]

If he walked now he’d only enhance his reputation as a manager who can only get promoted with squads that are expected to. He should be looking at this as a challenge.

[HahaYeah]

I am not professing to be a body language expert...

Neither am I, but I did detect a massive shoulder shrug when the Blackburn game was mentioned, and his general demeanour was - as some of you younger ones would say - shook.

Let's hope he can sort it all out but we may have to be patient.

[Wile E Coyote]

fans assuming parker is blindsided by any transfer activity, he will have known exactly the position he would be taking on when he signed his contract.
There wasn't much moaning going on about ALK or Alan Pace when we got promoted was there?
Let's not be fickle fans for god's sake. We all realise how modern football works, it's agents, backroom deals, big business for all concerned. please tell me of a club in england where football business is done in a purified atmosphere of straight talking directors and operating with total integrity.
we have had a magnificent start, and just one loss. players come and go...that's all there is to it.
We beat rovers and normal service will be resumed.

[RickyBobby]

I wouldn‘t blame any member of club staff or any player for wanting to leave. JBG coming back to then want to leave a few weeks later says it all. Pace has shown no respect to anyone at the club. He has made it clear he doesn’t care about the club and it is clear he is now asset stripping before moving on.
We are a club in desperate trouble, and every second Pace remains in power it is only going to get worse.
If we stay up it will be a miracle.

[Swizzlestick]

I wouldn‘t blame any member of club staff or any player for wanting to leave. JBG coming back to then want to leave a few weeks later says it all. Pace has shown no respect to anyone at the club. He has made it clear he doesn’t care about the club and it is clear he is now asset stripping before moving on.
We are a club in desperate trouble, and every second Pace remains in power it is only going to get worse.
If we stay up it will be a miracle.

The JBG comment makes no sense. He chose to re-sign under Pace, he’s jumped ship because he was offered a bigger pay day.

You’ll get 100/1 on us going down - stick your mortgage on it.

[Wembley09]

I don't think he will walk, I'm pretty sure he's on a luxurious contract and would rather take the pay out for being sacked.

[Teddy]

Oh honestly, talk about overreacting. We’ve only lost two players who have started the first two games in which we scored 9 goals and got 6 points. Ok todays result wasn’t great, but it was away, against a team who are probably going to do very well this season. This is not a catalyst for a manager/head coach to walk. If you thought we were going to win every game you’re in for a rude awakening. A bit of perspective and as dose of reality needed

[tarkys_ears]

Ok *teddy 21 posts in 2 years", we'll take your reality then

[THEWELLERNUT70]

The state of this thread after 3 games, absolutely pathetic, but there you go that's what this board has become.


Pathetic, spineless and redundant and only there to service opinions when times slightly dip below the perceived expectations

[Quicknick]

Some flapping going on on here. We fielded a weakened team prior to signing players. We just lost. Sunderland were lucky to get us on that day. We will be fine next week and from then on.

[Guller Bull]

I had us down for upper mid table finish with the bloated talented want away squad and Parker’s dull style. Weirdly I feel more confident now we have shipped(shipping) out all the wantaways and wage grabbers. I think SP can handle and motivate a much smaller tighter knit squad more adeptly

This next week is without understating it, is massive to our club but also to his managerial career.

[Quicknick]

I had us down for upper mid table finish with the bloated talented want away squad and Parker’s dull style. Weirdly I feel more confident now we have shipped(shipping) out all the wantaways and wage grabbers. I think SP can handle and motivate a much smaller tighter knit squad more adeptly

This next week is without understating it, is massive to our club but also to his managerial career.

From what SP said in the interview, he is well aware of the significance of the Blackburn match. He'll have his team primed.

[TPClaret]

Our fan base is pathetic these days. I dread it when we lose a game. Most fans were slagging these players off week in week out last season. Most of these players only came because of VK, if they don’t want to be here then get rid. Let’s see where we are by the end of the window. SP will get players in that want to play for him.

[winsomeyen]

He will of 100% been told there will be sales, also it could well be a case that some players have been into Parker since the start of pre season and expressed that they would like to move on and don’t want to play for the club anymore

Theres none as blind as those who dont want to see

[TPClaret]

Football is a joke these days. The agents hold all the cards. All about money, hence why everyone is going to Saudi. SP isn’t stupid he’ll have been fully aware of the situation before he arrived. Even Alan Pace said at the end of the documentary he was dreading the phone ringing and everyone wanting to leave.

[Woodleyclaret]

We are Burnley Football club and if SP is spineless to walk away from a fight we will survive. We have had some shite useless managers before but I think Scott has more to him than to bottle at this hiccup.

[Down_Rover]

I actually think the football has been dull and his team selection has been awful too.

I like the bloke and want him to succeed but he’s got to learn and quickly.

Vitinho on the wing as a secondary fullback away at Luton to deal with Doughty I understand but Vitinho on the wing at home against Cardiff?

playing Jay Rodriguez as a number 10? Shudder

Persisting with Foster when Amdouni is on the bench is a criminal offence

Hountondji? Did he sign him? Did we get duped? Are we victims of fraud? I have seen enough.

Where is Enoch Agyei?


It’s clear how much you like him from the love that exudes from your post. Nice try.

[Papabendi]

Theres none as blind as those who dont want to see

Yes, and they need to go. We need players who want to play for the club and for Parker. This is a painful transition, but it needs to happen. Two or three new faces this week could change the picture again. A win against Rovers, and the patient is happy again.

[rincon]

We only lost 1-0, not exactly a stuffing. An improved performance next week and all will be forgiven.

[AlargeClaret]

That a thread like this is even considered after 3 games is hilarious in the extreme. SP is hardly responsible for the exodus of last seasons prem players , and there’s clearly a “ last flight out of Saigon “ vibe which must be horrendous for a new manager .

For the record SP won 2x 1st time promotions from the Champ and got great prem experience with a dreadful Fulham side and was potted v early by Bournemouth after 3 back to back pastings off City,Ars/Liv. Slightly odd tenure at Brugge ,but all I see is a young (ish) manager gaining experience whose tasted both managerial success and failure at a good level .

[taio]

That a thread like this is even considered after 3 games is hilarious in the extreme. SP is hardly responsible for the exodus of last seasons prem players , and there’s clearly a “ last flight out of Saigon “ vibe which must be horrendous for a new manager .

For the record SP won 2x 1st time promotions from the Champ and got great prem experience with a dreadful Fulham side and was potted v early by Bournemouth after 3 back to back pastings off City,Ars/Liv. Slightly odd tenure at Brugge ,but all I see is a young (ish) manager gaining experience whose tasted both managerial success and failure at a good level .

I think it's very clear that the overwhelming majority haven't been blaming Parker.

[Teddy]

Ok *teddy 21 posts in 2 years", we'll take your reality then

As opposed to posting thousands of these types of gems??